A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

there is some suggestion (viz by max read) that the gathered fellows in golden helmets with occluded visors were extremely guild-adjacent

we don't see one in the books until dune messiah (he's called edric)

these lads:
https://i.imgur.com/NnCuNkx.jpg

last year one of the design people who worked with Villeneuve said he designed a guild navigator but confirmed it won't show up till Dune 2 because he wanted to make the story smaller to do it justice.

Yeah having the Guild Navigator appear in the story strictly out of the gate was a Lynch decision. There's a couple of Guild folks at the end of the first book but aside from heavy spice addiction per their deep blue eyes they're otherwise human.

"Desert power" as a phrase is in the book.

So those would be like the guys who wheel the big tank in and mop up the stuff. I’m all about those kinds of bits

I had this weird book of alien concept art as a kid called Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials, the Guild Steersman was in it, and this is what I had in my head for years, even before I saw the Lynch movie -

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/32/50/a73250f6dfc97f9261120789a5b314eb.jpg

man i spent hours flipping thru that at B Dalton as a kid

speaking of kids

https://kotaku.com/dune-s-timothee-chalamet-was-once-an-xbox-youtuber-1847946368

the gathered fellows in golden helmets with occluded visors were extremely guild-adjacent

I assumed they were guild navigators 'in training' - still recognizably human but in the process of mutating - their helmets keeping them immersed in spice gas.

smoke spice every day

The Guild Navigator scene in the Lynch version always made me laugh. Those guys in the long plastic outfits with large squee-gees cleaning up whatever that icky watery residue is on the floor left after the capsule reverses out the door, but not actually doing it properly at all, so weird.

I actually kinda love that touch. Like they care...but not really.

A love touch?

I just view that whole scene as whatever it is they are doing is simply incomprehensible to our primitive brains

the guild navigator staff lack a gobshite supervisor who is barking orders at them to clean up properly and get their high viz on etc

If you don't mop up the goo, you'll spend the rest of your days living in a pain amplifier.

I'm posting this from the movie theater where I'm about to see this on IMAX

I had this weird book of alien concept art as a kid called Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials,

I spent a full hour the other day trying to remember the name of this book so I could track it down and get a copy for my young nephews, 1000 thank yous for posting this

the guild navigator staff lack a gobshite supervisor who is barking orders at them to clean up properly and get their high viz on etc

The Office: Dune

XP - Ah, you're welcome. I was on eBay thinking about grabbing a copy for myself, I'll have read a bunch of the books mentioned in it probably by now.

this is really just sketched notes in advance of a genuine deep essay on the politics of the books (and the author) but i like that it takes note of dune messiah as a story with a purpose rather than a mis-step (i like it bcz this is also what i think, and as always im correct)

my issue with Dune Messiah is less about the message and more about the smallness of the scope. it feels like it shrinks the Dune universe.

it's a lurid court melodrama plus we meet edric the navigator and duncan the ghola

The Odd Couple. Shoulda been a sitcom.

Anyway besides Momoa I hope they signed Stellan Skarsgard to a long term contract...

it's cheers except sam gets eaten by sandwyrms

but at what cost? WHAT? COST?!?!

my biggest take away from last night's screening is that Jason Momoa does indeed steal the show, but I have my doubts that we'll see him again in ghola form

My big doubt lies in him and Alia having a romance shown on screen given she's, what, still a late teenager at that point?

I think if they get that far they will definitely go for it, probably by making her a bit older and giving him a more youthful style. Not sure that the book ever specifies that his clone is the same age he was when he died. Couldn't the clone be younger?

Momoa has past form in onscreen romances with characters who have been dramatically aged up from the source material...

was gonna say, Daenerys was supposed to be 13!

and I'd say that depiction goes waaaaaay beyond "onscreen romance"

case could be made that the ghola is p much the exact same age as alia, give or take a few months: at least if if you begin the count with the start of being grown in a vat (which had to be very shortly after duncan died)

folks i'm excited this did well enough to get the 2nd half made but i don't think there's a chance in hell they're going past the first book

how can they not be going here
https://www.bashfineart.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/11262_detail.jpg

that's what happens you drink too much watter of life!

in that pic they are asking him kindly to go back to the desert for a bit because he's a bit much these days

"Om shanti, my supplicants." "Er yes anyway."

I think the money people would be concerned that a giant wirrum with a human head is perhaps a bit too Rick & Morty

i wanna see it

My spoiler-free review of DUNE:

That was the single most humorless movie I have ever seen. There is one joke, delivered by Jason Momoa, in the first ten minutes. Cherish it. There will not be another.

— Kingfisher & Wombat (@UrsulaV) October 28, 2021

Apparently the sci fi channel miniseries managed to do three books so that’s what DV has to beat

(I am going to watch it instead of reading them)

I don't what happened in this movie - I was too busy cherishing the one joke in it until another came along to break me out of this state of cherishment.

Re cataloguing jokes for whatever reason, there was also that “smile/I am smiling” bit which was fine but could have been ported straight over from any of the hundred modern blockbusters chronically afflicted with these kinds of boilerplate quips, idk I was fine with there not being more of that

what about the spitting scene? that was definitely played for laffs

For sure

Also the 1984 one has way more funny parts but if you went through counting “jokes” you might get similar results

even David Lynch's darkest material is full of humor though

i will let you know when i find the first joke in the book