Just-started thread from a fave Twitter follow of mine, she knows her fashion.
1 - Hello, darlings. Welcome to #Threadtalk! This edition we're taking an interstellar trip to Arrakis to review the costumes of #Dune (2021). Like before, featuring minimal to no spoilers. A focus on fashion and its relation to fashion history, plus bit of... spice. đȘ pic.twitter.com/Edpu11D7dz— Natania Barron (@NataniaBarron) November 8, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 November 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
An interesting article on the architecture that influenced the design of Dunehttps://t.co/HEyT54IaIa— Duncan Bell (@DrDuncanBell) November 7, 2021
and here's architecture take
― calzino, Monday, 8 November 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link
SUK medical conditioning more like medical conditioning that SUKSâ mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:57 (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
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"Imperial Conditioning", as indicated by the mark on his forehead, which is supposed to make it impossible for him to harm the people he serves. And yet Piter "discovers" that people with "Imperial Conditioning" will still do your bidding "if you capture and threaten to kill somebody they love," which seems to make the conditioning worthless
but this actually isn't quite what piter ends up discovering that he's discovered, which is more that the coditioning can be overriden if a conditioned suk doctor can be caused to hate someone that they decide to kill them (and killing rather than harm is what the conditioning supposedly makes imposdsible): in the event yueh fails to kill the baron, but that's his intention, and that's why others have to die -- leto, shadout mapes, esmar tuek. yueh says as much in his note to paul and jessica (while jessica has already noted the extreme intensity of his hatred towards the harkonnens (which gets fatally misread, as fostering loyaty towards the atreides -- but no, it overrides that too. yueh loves the atreides but the hatred piter unleashes just swamps all that. piter teaches yueh to want to kill: this is buried in the text but i think important -- and of course it's why piter dies (also he dies bcz mentats just can't stop making dumb mistakes lol, they think like computers = they are dumm).
secondary deaths do seem like a problem for the conditioning tho: every time yueh gives idaho or halleck their yearly flu jab he is making it more likely that these legendary ducal killing machines will kill again. in conclusion this was a hurried device of suspect value, which is not exectly territory herbert shies away from. ps doctors with the conditioning are allowed to wear their hair long and gathered though a silver "suk ring", mister police i gave you all the clues
― mark s, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 10:44 (two years ago) link
It is a lie of political convenience and therefore quite easily absorbed into any narrative
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 10:45 (two years ago) link
*slapping roof of dune* this narrative can absorb so many lies of political convenience
^^^not even actually a joke, it's what the book is about
― mark s, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 10:49 (two years ago) link
A sandworm wouldnt swallow it but look here we are
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 10:56 (two years ago) link
the bene gesserit would know about this lie of political convenience given that they usually author them, but you've reminded me that the book at least tells of jessica nearly discovering him when she misreads darth yueh's switch to the dark side.
― What it's like. Havana Syndrome. What it's like. Havana Syndrom (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
iirc she is probing Yueh's hatred of the harkonnen when she receives an interrupting vision that her thopter warranty has expired. Herbert foresaw everything.
― What it's like. Havana Syndrome. What it's like. Havana Syndrom (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
at that stage in the story herbert is pedal-to-the-metal on the "strategics of love" vs the "tactics of hate" i think, leto glumly and somewhat self-hating talking to paul abt the atriedes propaganda flooding arrakis, about how he's kind and not cruel and etc, and then we see the power of loyalty unfold vs how the harkonnens do things, and the harkonnens are kinda dumb -- their thing nearly fully fucks up right at the start and carries on fucking up despite them now having all the resources and also all the imperial support. except of course FH's moral is "well hate is bad adn stupid yes, imagine now that you have a supersmart leader-prophet that ppl adoringly follow out of love -- imagine how much WORSE that might be!"
― mark s, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
Folks, I'm sorry in advance but I'm going to shit up the thread...
My reaction to this is that you could see this on a double/triple-plusIMAX++++ screen with MBV's sound system and none of it will do any good because this script (and what to leave in or out) was by the same dudes who gave you The Concorde Airport '79, Forrest Gump, The Postman, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close, the latest A Star Is Born, Prometheus, Doctor Strange, and Passengers. It's one heck of a foundation of wet cardboard to build a space opera on.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 07:55 (two years ago) link
I may be the only person in the world who went to see it in a theater and came away disliking it - like serious dislike - all the flaws in sharp relief the size of a building.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 08:01 (two years ago) link
I mean it was OK enough first seeing it on my laptop screen in a haze of Moderna booster, but taking it on again as a proper movie in a theater just exposes it for what it is as a very good looking book of art stills populated by people who don't want to be there.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 08:12 (two years ago) link
Gawd, yes, Elvis, felt the same about after being in the cinema....and even the visual side was a let down, in the sense that it really didn't linger on many of the big moments..for example, they asked Stellan SkarsgÄrd to sit in a vat of oil or whatever and I expected this scene to start revelling in the weird, macabre aspects of the harkonnen but it flashes by without any poignancy, like the rest of the film. It lacked a trust in the actors to bring the story to life and the cast looked bored amongst the stale green screen set pieces
― Swanswans, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 11:06 (two years ago) link
Half of Villeneuveâs movies, especially the large release science fiction ones (Arrival, BR 2049, this Dune) remind me of Underworldâs song Pearlâs Girl because at some point youâre going to see lingering shots of the water on stonethe water on concrete the water on sand.lucky he had some caladan material to sneak that in, along with the very moist harkonnens
― mh, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
baron's floating, baron's floating
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
Baron Saturday?
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
st eloise of the knife
https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/56250ed56015429a1debbd21/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/eloise-illustration-01.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 11:23 (two years ago) link
part 2 needs a rival aesthetic intruding against the relentless malickness, alia is the correct character to hang this on
― mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 11:29 (two years ago) link
Split directing duties between Villeneuve and Paul W.S. Anderson. He knows how to shoot deserts, too (cf. Monster Hunter, the third or fourth Resident Evil). Heâs good with slow motion too.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 November 2021 11:52 (two years ago) link
split the difference and give it to wes anderson
― mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:01 (two years ago) link
get Ken Loach in, the pisshead guy who played Les Battersby can replace Bautista
― calzino, Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:09 (two years ago) link
"wes anderson's dune" parody sketch practically writes itself, but i for one think Owen Wilson would make a fantastic Feyd-Rautha
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:32 (two years ago) link
worm is a long line of schoolchildren in worm masks
― mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:35 (two years ago) link
White Stripes = we're going to be Fremen on the soundtrack.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:42 (two years ago) link
Animal Farm by The Kinks over worm riding montage
― What it's like. Havana Syndrome. What it's like. Havana Syndrom (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 11 November 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
We come from the land where sandworms blowFrom the hot-ass sun where the spice must flow
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
watched it again with Dad this past weekend, liked it a bit more but it's still like an excessively packaged double swirl vinyl rerelease of a classic album where it's been remastered and brickwalled all to hell... I predict Half Price Books will contain roughly 500 copies of this on Blu-Ray within a year.
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 November 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link
does this movie sync up with dopesmoker y/y
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
Michael Mann's Dune, featuring 30 mins of unreleased Audioslave songs.
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
bummed to find that this has already been booted down from all the *really* big screens in NYC for our planned rewatch. guess i'll have to hope for an auteurist Villeneuve series at Metrograph or something.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
read that as an amateurist series and why not eh
― mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
Yeah I wanted to go see it on IMAX or whatever the next best is, but it was only on "standard screens" as of last week. So we turned out the lights and watched on HBOMax on our TV.
― DJI, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
If youâre in the DC area this will be back at the Smithsonian IMAX in northern Virginia the last two weekends of November.
― Chris L, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
The biggest complaint I have about seeing this in a theater: having to watch - I shit you not - 10 freaking trailers before the movie started
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 November 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link
Trailers are good tho
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 November 2021 10:44 (two years ago) link
cinemas back baby
― mark s, Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link
We didn't get any adverts or trailers because of a problem with the projector and I'm still a bit sore (not about the adverts though).
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:41 (two years ago) link
I love trailers, but have a slight punctuality impairment so usually miss them.
― chap, Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:45 (two years ago) link
I used to like them when I was a young and naively enthusiastic enough cinema goer to think some of this garbage might turn out to be good!
― calzino, Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:59 (two years ago) link
They werenât all bad, and some of these are things Iâll probably see. Itâs just ⊠10 trailers is a LOT.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 November 2021 12:25 (two years ago) link
Yeah the enjoyment curve for trailers peaks around 6 for me, and after that it starts getting annoying. 10 would be tough to bear
― Vinnie, Sunday, 14 November 2021 12:53 (two years ago) link
Finally got around to seeing this this weekend. Loved the look of this movie. Kind of difficult to judge otherwise since despite the length it only feels like half a movie. Watching the movie I couldn't help but feel that somebody who hasn't read the books would be a bit lost, but I think there's enough random info thrown in here and there to make a person understand a lot in a very broad sense. I went with my son who was totally unfamiliar with Dune and he seemed to mostly get it, though he didn't really get what the Bene Gesserit's role in all of this is supposed to be or why they have superpowers.
― silverfish, Monday, 15 November 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link
I was on a panel chat last night talking about the film and we pretty much all agreed that Hans Zimmerâs score was forgettable(in that none of us remembered anything about it) but the sound design was top-notch
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
Stops streaming on hbo after this weekend. Watched it for the third time with my mom last night. =D
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link
Some Ghost in the Shell soundtrack vibes at the end
― calstars, Sunday, 21 November 2021 14:07 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTPNaUsjksM
― calstars, Sunday, 21 November 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHPkdMGI6D4
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
Coming back to IMAX, baby!
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
dune, but make it set at a start up pic.twitter.com/gFZC98URbm— Morgan A Baila (@morganbaila) November 24, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link