i know. what do you believe the clinical implications of that are?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link
skin cancer camps out on your skin. you can't cure it with lotion.
If you have more antibodies in your nasal passages, the virus doesn't even make it past them into your lungs, is the idea.
But whatever, the current needle-based vaccines are plenty strong.
― DJI, Monday, 22 November 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
i am okay with wearing a seat belt in my car with an airbag, why not?we need to have public schooling regarding the destigmatization of needles; people need to recognize beyond the abstract that most hypodermic experiences are not dangerous bad or generally even painful.
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
At least for me, it's not about education. I have a messed-up physical response to needles. I didn't even fear the Moderna shot, and barely felt it. And yet, 10 minutes later, I had to lay down on the pavement because I was about to pass out.
― DJI, Monday, 22 November 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
you're saying that's a physical thing from getting jabbed by a hypo? what's that about?
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
my mother also fears needles to a very high degree. some of my first memories are really lynchian fucked up things with her in abject horror, screaming about needles. she has always been against them, but they were fine for me. it is just a very emotional thing for her, going beyond that to the point where it also becomes very physical.
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link
like the panic in her voice when she is near a needle is very alarming and hard to forget
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
i don't have this response to getting shots or needles but i do to other things and it's "physical" in that there is an actual response in your nervous system. i can see how that can happen even though hard to explain or understand.
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
that was an xp, it's not really a fear of things that you are conscious of in that respect (not like KM's mom, sounds like)
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
Needle phobia, pain phobia, blood phobia, snake phobia: it looks like the phobias that lower your blood pressure and make you feel faint (rather than raising your blood pressure, like most phobias) have a strong genetic component.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 November 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
i have a similar reaction to the prospect of delivering a presentation
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 November 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link
yeah and at least for me i don't have to be consciously thinking about the thing or "afraid" of it at all to bring about the vasovagal response so it's not something i could be educated out of
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:14 (two years ago) link
i look away when i get blood drawn because seeing things go into my skin can trigger it but i don't consider myself afraid of needles
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
I respond to overwhelming stress by getting sleepy and feeling like I may fall to the ground.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 November 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link
I had to get an epidural steroid shot for my horrible no-good lower back a few weeks ago and I started passing out in the middle of it and they had to lean the table over so my head was down. Total nightmare as they had needles in my spine at that point. From now on I'm asking for general anesthesia if I have to do that again.
What harbl said. I'm guessing it's a brain-based response but it feels autonomic to me.
― DJI, Monday, 22 November 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
it is autonomic iirc? that happened to me when i gave blood. i thought it was due to...having less blood, but thinking back on it maybe not. i feel like i keep saying "i'm not afraid of needles" because i'm not, but something deep within me is. it's not me!
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:34 (two years ago) link
honestly not something i considered, thanks for sharing
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link
I didn't realize these things were so mysterious for people who really suffer from it. I don't think anything of needles but right after one of the covid shots i swear i fainted for a tenth of a second... and then was fine.
For weeks it seemed like every headline image on every news site was a needle sticking out of an arm... yeah that really couldn't have helped.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link
over the past two months, between blood draws and surgery and preop and acupuncture and various bullshit, i probably had something like 250 needles in me. it's not desirable exactly but i generally don't much care.
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link
Two of my best friends have needlephobia. It outright ruins their day
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
usually photos and talking about things like blood etc don't do it to me, has to be irl. but one time i watched a dr. pimple popper clip on youtube and my whole world started to go dark even though i wanted to keep watching it. and i LIKE dr. pimple popper!
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link
dr pimple popper my favorite Walmart soda flavor
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link
I used dr pimplepopper videos to help desensitize my severe needle panic. I would pass out if I so much as saw one. It took a year or so but am thankful for her lidocaine usage.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link
she's a national hero imo
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
I get that vasovagal response too. I guess it’s nice to know it’s not just me. It’s weird because you never really know when it’s gonna happen! But when it does it sucks. You wouldn’t think that “feel like you’re gonna pass out” would be such an unpleasant feeling but it really is
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link
When I was getting my booster a woman there at the same time was complaining about it and whining “when will this end? what are they not telling us?” but stopped when I asked how this is different than the annual flu shot she’s gotten for years.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link
wait a second what aren't they telling us about flu, then!?!?!
― just staying (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link
wait...what aren't they telling me about everything in general
*runs to the bunker*
This one has 5G iirc.
― hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
My wife and I scored a booster appointment for tomorrow afternoon. By mid-December we should be oozing antibodies from all orifices.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
Got a booster of Pfizer yesterday morning. Sore injection spot is my only side effect, glad to say.
― Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
My son and I both got Pfizer boosters yesterday morning and we've both been feeling pretty rundown and achy today, so though it seems to be wearing off a bit now
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
SANTA CRUZ, Calif — An indoor mask mandate has been reinstated in Santa Cruz County due to increasing COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations. The mandate took effect at 11:59 p.m. Sunday, requiring everyone to wear face coverings when indoors regardless of vaccination status. Santa Cruz County Health Officer Dr. Gail Newel said in a statement last week that a potential winter surge appears to be a significant threat to the health and safety of the community. The health officer order even requires masks to be worn in private settings, including homes, when people who are not from the household are present. The previous mask order was rescinded in late September.
How many mask mandates made the distinction of requiring them in private homes? This leads to a lot of questions about compliance and enforcement, but I was a bit surprised to see that added at this point in COVID.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link
That mask-at-home order is not remotely enforceable, and comes closest to the sort of imposition anti-mask people are always complaining about.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link
here’s the UK case graph. and before you say “yes but deaths are low” there are still about 150 people dying every day from ithttps://i.imgur.com/cHrasbl.jpg
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I was being tongue in cheek about the compliance and enforcement bit, but this does seem like such a weird thing to even include at this point. People who are going to be safe about who they let into their home will remain safe, those who haven't given a fuck all pandemic won't start now. All this seems to do is give ammo to the anit-mask people to bitch about overreach.
It's getting really ugly in the Midwest, was surprised to see that Michigan is now at a higher peak than they've ever seen.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
Yeah Michigan not a good scene. Vaccination rate on the low side but requires magical thinking to assume this isn’t coming to the rest of the northern US this winter.
Michigan: 1) It's a straight line up 2) It's occurring in cases and deaths. pic.twitter.com/EoU6pQ4p7X— Vincent Rajkumar (@VincentRK) November 23, 2021
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
I'm hopeful that it doesn't necessarily translate 1:1 to states with higher vaxx rates though.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/23/florida-doctors-covid-coronavirus-bruce-boros
“I have been on ivermectin for 16 months, my wife and I,” Dr Bruce Boros told the audience at the event held at the World Equestrian Center in Ocala, adding: “I have never felt healthier in my life.”The 71-year-old cardiologist and staunch anti-vaccine advocate contracted Covid-19 two days later, according to the head event organizer, Dr John Littell.
The 71-year-old cardiologist and staunch anti-vaccine advocate contracted Covid-19 two days later, according to the head event organizer, Dr John Littell.
Doesn't have any worms, though.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link
the event held at the World Equestrian Center
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link
> here’s the UK case graph. and before you say “yes but deaths are low” there are still about 150 people dying every day from it
and it infuriates me that people say that this is half what it used to be as if that makes it ok.
been looking up places to get my booster and they are odd. a tiny corner chemist or somewhere that's open for a couple of hours 3 times a week.
― koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 04:23 (two years ago) link
Found a local non-chain pharmacy that took walk-ins only--no appointments--and got my booster there first thing this morning after standing in line for 45 mins.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 04:29 (two years ago) link
I had my booster yesterday - everything said it was in a small chemist but when you actually got there a completely different building had been taken over. Had to drive for an hour to get there though, our county isn't getting any until next month and for other health reasons we wanted to get as soon as eligible.
We were AZ for the first two but Pfizer this time, ironically I read a study last night that suggests early results show mixing technology provides better results compared to a third of the same.
― Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 08:42 (two years ago) link
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5022182,-0.227701,3a,57.1y,308.98h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shVL1ohhfVT4syW7CSIDorg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
3.6 / 5.0 on google reviews.
"Small, not very friendly customer support."
― koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 09:24 (two years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/21/icu-is-full-of-the-unvaccinated-my-patience-with-them-is-wearing-thin
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 09:55 (two years ago) link
Similar story with my booster: what was clearly an out-of-business hairdressers in West Dulwich, with a temporary sign. But it's been a vaccination centre for a while now; gf got her 2nd there in the summer.
Booking system had gone offline when I arrived - 25+ in front of me in the queue. (Un)fortunately, half gave up and I was in and out in 45min. (First two, at a church in Thornton Heath, were 5min jobs). Protocols in SE21 scrupulously observed - 100% masks and occupancy limits in shops, like it was early 2021 or somesuch. Funny how you have these little microclimates - a mile down the road and it's 2019.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:42 (two years ago) link
looking pretty dire in Europe
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 12:37 (two years ago) link
Yeah my mum told me Merkel's saying the numbers in Germany are worrying, but they're lower than the UK - do they have less fully vaccinated ppl?
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 12:54 (two years ago) link
Planning a xmas reunion back in Portugal w/ my wife's French family and so having to keep tabs on the situation in three different countries :/