i didn't have a quarter of a million dollars btw― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, December 17, 2021 3:05 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, December 17, 2021 3:05 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
well not after you foolishly blew your pile on luxury intensive care for your newborn infant you didn't, what ever happened to personal responsibility in this country
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
love too be free to contract with healthcare providers
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 17 December 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link
did not expect Dr Jha to be uhh this bold. I suspect he's about to take a beating from his peers (idk if he's wrong per se but wow brave)
For nearly 2 years, I've closely tracked infectionsBecause infections invariably led to hospitalizations and deathsBut I expect that in this upcoming waveThat link will finally breakCases will spikeBut among vaccinated/boosted people, it won't lead to serious illness— Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH (@ashishkjha) December 17, 2021
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link
what does he mean by "that link will break"?
"among vaccinated/boosted people, it won't lead to serious illness" is true but a significant fraction (perhaps even most) americans are going to get omicron in the next 4-8 weeks, and the vast, vast majority of over 65s are not boosted.
I don't see how that doesn't lead to a lot of hospitalizations unless he thinks it's intrinsically *very* mild.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link
weird tweet.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
Even hospitalizations is a little squishy and ICU is probably a better measure of severity.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link
Seems like a weird thing to say but he might be trying to counter the AJ Leonardis of the world and overcorrecting
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
The Omicron wave is already here and is sure to be staggering large. But there has been some good news, too—at least relatively speaking. A thread (1/x) https://t.co/julic17Fym— David Wallace-Wells (@dwallacewells) December 17, 2021
i haven't read the full article (and DWW is a climate writer not an epidimiologist, and he's had some dodgy covid takes before) but this thread is very reasonable IMO. there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic, including the possibility that omicron might in some sense end the pandemic?!
but he's also right that the US is very poorly prepared relative to other developed countries for what's about to happen. if you get it, you'll probably be fine, but try very hard not to give it to anyone else!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0) at 4:19 17 Dec 21The pre-insurance bill for my son's C-section birth was definitely north of a quarter mil
we used to joke that we hadn't paid off our baby until year 2 haha
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
Hmm
Important🧵by Ravi and his teamOmicron-> Lung cell infectivity reduced, consistent with Hong Kong findings:https://t.co/4PO3uPERLCWhich, added to immunity wall of vaccination, would help reduce potential of Covid pneumonia 👍 https://t.co/r2SeXXxIoV pic.twitter.com/EvvPgO8I2s— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) December 17, 2021
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link
Xxpost yea I'm picking up tests tonight and testing mom and i
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link
Breaking: Illinois hospitals are being flooded with patients more than at any other time of the pandemic, a Tribune analysis of state data has found. https://t.co/QOSI49Vxgp— Chicago Tribune (@chicagotribune) December 17, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
I love how it looks like eazy broke in there
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
i've been going insane thinking about how omicron is going to be bad based on every sensible thing i've read about it and it's been infuriating to watch the CDC and media continually go, 'well... the cases are mild,' based on basically nothing. the infectivity supersedes the diminished symptoms, if the diminished symptoms are in fact an element of this variant which can't be confirmed. but it's okay because The Economy is churning along folks
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link
The total bill for keeping me alive in 2019 was about 1.5 million. About 3/4 of that was covered by insurance, and I essentially showed the huge teaching hospital (U Penn) that I had no money to pay the rest, and they ate the rest of the bill. Very lucky in this regard.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link
This thread makes an interesting case for being extra cautious if you have symptoms and test negative
IMPORTANT: RAPID TESTS DO WORK WITH OMICRON"But why are some people staying negative in the first days they have symptoms??"This is expected. Symptoms don't = contagious virusThis is literally a reflection of the fact that vaccines are doing their job!PLEASE READ pic.twitter.com/YBJvNovQXL— Michael Mina (@michaelmina_lab) December 18, 2021
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 18 December 2021 02:55 (two years ago) link
lol literally just read that thread
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 December 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link
I don't even know what symptoms to look out for these days. The sniffles?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 December 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link
bootyflakes
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 December 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link
One person I know who got it recently said it was a lot like a bad stomach flu, for her and for her kids.
― Lily Dale, Saturday, 18 December 2021 04:21 (two years ago) link
mom told me she had massive diarrhea.
just tested her, she's negative
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 December 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link
tested her nose, not her diarrhea, to be clear
i'm negative too. same time tomorrow Binax? yay!
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 December 2021 04:25 (two years ago) link
great thread
This is one of the most confusing times of the pandemic, w/ a firehose of new Omicron data (lots of fab work on #medtwitter putting it into context). In this (long) 🧵, I'll offer my take on how the new information is changing my thinking & behavior.(1/25)— Bob Wachter (@Bob_Wachter) December 17, 2021
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 December 2021 06:01 (two years ago) link
also Ashish expanded on his thread from earlier, but....it's kind of a thin explanation.
Lets talk about why we'll soon see an uncoupling of infections and hospitalizationsNo, its not because Omicron is "mild" I'm not sure it isIts because Omicron has so much immune evasionThat we'll see a change in who gets infectedThread https://t.co/rJlO4HczCw— Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH (@ashishkjha) December 18, 2021
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 December 2021 06:04 (two years ago) link
International travel hasn't been a good idea since March of last year and remains not a good idea.
Lucky if you can work in your home country and don’t have to look for a job somewhere else. But screw those people right?
― groovemaaan, Saturday, 18 December 2021 10:37 (two years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/17/hundreds-off-work-ill-at-leading-london-hospital-as-omicron-cases-surgei’m sure this will be fine
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 December 2021 11:14 (two years ago) link
Netherlands not fucking around:
Lockdown in the Netherlands:- From tomorrow until January 14- All non-essential stores, restaurants, cinemas, and schools are closed- Events are banned, including Christmas markets- Only 2 people can be outside together, unless they live at the same address. 4 on holidays— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) December 18, 2021
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 18 December 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link
Good article if you have any free ones left
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/the-south-africa-omicron-wave-is-already-peaking-why.html
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 December 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
Excellent piece on the end of the pandemic.
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068094
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 December 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
. Far from a dramatic “end,” pandemics gradually fade as society adjusts to living with the new disease agent and social life returns to normal.
I agree, and it's what I thought in April.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 December 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
Deactivating or disconnecting ourselves from the dashboards may be the single most powerful action towards ending the pandemic.
I did this last summer - and rates were really low. Perhaps there was some sort of correlation between my actions and how highly the pandemic was raging?
― kinder, Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link
This is good to see.
Actually, more recent data from Denmark looks more encouraging. Based on a far larger sample size, Omicron hospitalisations are at ~0.6% vs. ~1.5% for Delta (~60% down).(Thanks @RufusSG for spotting the report)8/https://t.co/ALkZLAXDvv pic.twitter.com/zKJfTohuT2— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) December 19, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 December 2021 12:02 (two years ago) link
Some more reporting on what could be coming in terms of variants.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/12/america-omicron-variant-surge-booster/621027/
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 December 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
lots of sobering pulls from that article, but this is one that hits hardest right now and gives me such little hope:
Like the variants that preceded it, Omicron requires individuals to think and act for the collective good—which is to say, it poses a heightened version of the same challenge that the U.S. has failed for two straight years, in bipartisan fashion.
(thanks for sharing though)
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 December 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link
There's no public policy that will contain a virus this contagious, only thing that is effective is vaccinating as many people as possible and hopefully eventually an effective antiviral, which does admittedly seem like a real likelihood now, something I didn't expect.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 20 December 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link
the hope of public policy containing covid in the US went down the toilet before April 2020. US policy rn is mainly aimed at slowing it down and causing the fewest hospitalizations and deaths, except in states like Texas, where the policy is to let the virus do whatever it wants.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 20 December 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
don't forget the Floridas!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 December 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
There's no public policy that will contain a virus this contagious
How many people have died in your state from the virus?
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Monday, 20 December 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
pandemic response is a state of mind
― Karl Malone, Monday, 20 December 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
now this is a thread:
I've talked about my Tuberculosis story. Here's what the Gov't told me when I was diagnosed:-Go home.-Don't leave your house.-Tomorrow we will begin treating you. -A gov't worker will come to your house to treat you for 6-9 months-If you refuse treatment, you will go to jail— Magdi Semrau (@magi_jay) December 20, 2021
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 December 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
Huh, I’m not allowed to see that on Twitter. Yet I can see the embed on ILX.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 December 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link
early signs that UK Omicron wave may be slowing. even the author cautions again forming firm conclusions yet but he's a pretty reliable source and I think we all need hope
Anyone care for some hopium, at very reasonable rates? I should stress it’s very early days, but there were a couple of positive signs in today’s London hospital data. That doesn’t mean we’re out of the woods, and it could all change in next few days. Let’s take a look… 🧵— James Ward (@JamesWard73) December 20, 2021
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 December 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
Hope is less valuable than waiting for fuller data.
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Monday, 20 December 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link
"Hope” is the thing with feathers -That perches in the soul -And sings the tune without the words -And never stops - at all -
And sweetest - in the Gale - is heard -And sore must be the storm -That could abash the little BirdThat kept so many warm -
I’ve heard it in the chillest land -And on the strangest Sea -Yet - never - in Extremity,It asked a crumb - of me.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 December 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link
Hope and reasonable behaviour are more useful to the general population than waiting for data tbh
― Angela's Seshes (darraghmac), Monday, 20 December 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
I start each day with breakfast, coffee, and a perusal of the data so I know what the rest of my day will look like.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 20 December 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Monday, December 20, 2021 2:45 PM bookmarkflaglink
This is one of the more WTF things you've said. Esp since you were sharing lambda scare data well before we had full data.
By the time fuller data is here, it's too late. That's why everyone is preparing for the worst, because by the time the data arrives, we're already engulfed.
I'm not basing my actions on incomplete data, I'm basing it on what experts themselves have suggested. But many of us want to read the tea leaves now and then have hope for the future. That's human psychology. If news comes out that appears positive, great...as long as we recognize it's preliminary.
I also notice the doomers who doom based on prelim data never advise people to "wait for more data" before announcing the apocalypse.
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 December 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
My fav song from Peter Pam
Never never hoooope
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 December 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
Hope is also by definition something that can only exist in the absence of full data