It's clumsy and unnatural. Instead of the sentient AI just steadily becoming part of the crew until they realize "oh shit, it's a being" they make it a stilted B-plot and finish up by telling instead of showing with the "I feel seen."
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 2 January 2022 23:34 (two years ago) link
I’m pretty sure that was a Ferengi in the Federation vote, and possibly another one who was tending bar at some point.
― Rabbit Pen Warren (Leee), Monday, 3 January 2022 04:52 (two years ago) link
first ep back after season break was pretty enjoyable! only one “you got this” & it wasnt even bc someone was sad
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 February 2022 04:07 (two years ago) link
really liked the makeup on the mac tonight/ max-headroom-looking broker
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 February 2022 04:20 (two years ago) link
I kept thinking of G'Kar from B5. It felt like there were loads of older Trek refs in this ep which made me realise how little of that Disco has been doing.
Some ferengis in the background, a shapshifter (who turned into a tribble, lol), payment with gold pressed latinum, and I think one camera pan went past an alien who looked the same as Morn from the DS9 bar. I'm sure there was more.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 12 February 2022 04:49 (two years ago) link
yeah there def was a lot!i also liked “Oh Wow” and her fight scene, also felt very old Trek, like a scheme dreamed up by jim & bones
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 February 2022 06:39 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLpjynpXIAgeX0A?format=jpg&name=small
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:08 (two years ago) link
sad to sour the generally posi vibes here but i found the first ep back lame & snoozy esp for a mid-season premiere or whatever -
but most recent one was ok? like, pleasingly overwrought i would say. the DSP or whatever is a pretty soft focus Season Threat tho - I want to be feeling v’ger/voyage home probe levels of unknowable cosmic power vibes but it just isn’t landing - although this ep kind of felt like it was building to something i guess? but hard to get real excited about this season, bring back that nutso Disco energy, it was weird but at least it was something
also lol at returning character reveal that leaves me squinting and going “oh yeah i kind of remember that person?” - the second-tier characters are so epically under-written on this show, it is kind of avant garde - like the shuttlecraft spat between beard guy and non-beard guy - I kind of blank as soon as they start talking, because you know it’s an anaemic fifth-priority subplot that will be resolved with no consequences
ok i have thought too much now about this dumb show that i still watch and like
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 18 February 2022 22:53 (two years ago) link
new episode bugged me a little bc the mirroring of Michaels situation on her ship & Bookers situation on his ship like do u seee every 5 minutes ughhhhh WE GET IT but fine otherwise
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 February 2022 23:41 (two years ago) link
absurd that they didn’t open fire
hate it when the needs of the many are outweighed by the needs of this one guy people find likeable
― mookieproof, Saturday, 19 February 2022 02:26 (two years ago) link
am I going crazy or did they not try to explain to Book the crucial plot point they uncovered at the end of the prior episode about what the device was
― mh, Saturday, 19 February 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link
i thought they mentioned they’d sent him the info and then there was a bit of dialogue where he said “that’s interesting but if doesn’t make any difference”
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 19 February 2022 20:34 (two years ago) link
yeah, they did
i have no faith that they'll wrap it up well, but i do respect the turn they've taken with this species 10c. there are good storytelling reasons why humans/vulcans/klingons/romulans/etc. have more or less the same level of technology, but they really should have been running into civilizations that are much more advanced -- and not necessarily friendly -- way more often. (and without turning them into easily thwarted clowns, as voyager did with the borg.)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 19 February 2022 23:10 (two years ago) link
I think I have a pretty low tolerance for characters acting well below real-life stupidity as a cheap and easy way to raise the stakes and dramatic tension, so I have yet to finish the second episode back.
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Saturday, 26 February 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link
this last one was all about everyone's feelings again
tbh i just want a show about kovach; everyone else (except grudge) can fuck off
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 February 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
star trek: therapyi had so hoped we’d moved on from all these fucking feeelings uuuuuugh
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 26 February 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link
I wonder if Species 10C (?) have feelings
Maybe the series is gonna be resolved by Discovery telling them all about feelings for the first time and they’ll feel so fuckin seen that they’ll call off the DMA and do yoga together
I didn’t mind this ep
(but lol at the “Saru’s farewell to beard guy” scene, I couldn’t even remember what his position was - I guess maybe the actor took a break and it was just housekeeping but honestly these guys are so anonymous that it would have been better to just handwave the crew change with one line of dialogue)
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 26 February 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link
that was either reese or bryce iirc. happily, removing one of them means they can no longer have made-up disagreements about strategy
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 February 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9RU3ykbY0this fuckin show swear to god
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 March 2022 07:03 (two years ago) link
oh i forgot that i watched it cool so turns out that species 10c love their children too, what a relief that they weren't an unknowable cosmic horror with motives beyond human comprehension because that woulda been a bit interesting
ok so next week i guess they have to work out a way to convert human feelings into fairy dust, then pack it all into a photon torpedo of emotion and fire it into the heart of the CGI thing
then everyone will feel seen and we can finish a season that never really felt like it started
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:53 (two years ago) link
in ni'var and cardassiathere's a growing feeling of hysteriaconditioned to respond to all the threatsruon tarka pours out for paul stamets'this dma will bury you'i don't subscribe to this point of viewbut what might save us, me and youis that the 10c love their children too
― mookieproof, Monday, 7 March 2022 21:02 (two years ago) link
the off world background art was really cool , is one thing i liked abt this ep
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 March 2022 21:02 (two years ago) link
lol mookie
also lol
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Monday, 7 March 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link
So Q is still a thing in Picard. Why cant he just pop in here and fuckin fix this crap.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 03:51 (two years ago) link
The IMDB user scores for these recent episodes are absolutely brutal.
Are they deserved or is it a woke reactionary type thing?
― groovypanda, Thursday, 10 March 2022 12:57 (two years ago) link
if you look at imdb user ratings you’re going to get exactly what you’re looking for, in my experience
― mh, Thursday, 10 March 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link
IMDB is bizarrely anti-woke/anti-SJW/anti-anything not white male nerd. They will EVISCERATE any show that big-ups women, POC, assault victims, sci fi shows not using all wite ppl etc. Like to the point where I feel like there's brigading going on?
Buuuut... I think that last ep's rating is probably deserved.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link
as probably mentioned upthread, i try and be a painstakingly respectful and humble human but there is something about the scripting of this show that makes me feel like a cranky conservative asshole, maybe this is the true magic of star trek
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 11 March 2022 00:33 (two years ago) link
right!? i was complaing to mr veg last week about how the fuck do they get ~anything~ done or achieve any objectives as part of starfleet when they’re constantly talking out their feelings on every single decision!? i felt like a cranky old boomer lmaobut in my defense: FFS
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 March 2022 01:29 (two years ago) link
just thinking of old episodes where“they communicate.. through emotions?”kirk fucks something picard grimaces a lot, data gives his weird non-emotional android thing, they act with egalitarian aplombjaneway appoints a team to figure out emotions, they all fight and come to halfassed consensussisko boldly acts emotionally idk whatever bakula was, they do something but a plot device from some showrunner fucks them
― mh, Friday, 11 March 2022 03:16 (two years ago) link
yesterday I got halfway through a bitchy post about how Discovery can be at red alert with shaky camera and smoke and blood on the bridge and an assailant relentlessly hurling crackling death energy at a terrified crew... then Burnham will say "Saru, a moment?" and they'll jump cut to the ready room where everything is soft focus and ferns and water features, and Michael and Saru gently touch each other's upper forearms and express their appreciation for togetherness at this difficult time
then I felt unkind and didn't post the post but I'm posting it now because GEEZ sometimes its like the show is its own SNL Parody (if anyone cared enough about this show to parody it)
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 11 March 2022 23:54 (two years ago) link
heh should have mentioned i did quite enjoy this episode! altho can’t help thinking that s1-s2 gonzo discovery would have got here by about ep 4 and spent 3 eps hallucinating inside 10-C’s hyperstructure before undergoing a shocking paradigm shift that changed everything, with Detmer revealed to be the borg queen
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 12 March 2022 01:20 (two years ago) link
that moment where Michael & Saru have their yelling therapy moment in the middle of idk diplomatic negotiations? idk idk but omg it just about brought me to full red mist like are you fucking kidding me with this fucking shit
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 March 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link
ha yeah and Saru fretting about getting laid with 4 hours left til the destruction of the universe… actually when i put it like that maybe it seems reasonable
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 12 March 2022 03:02 (two years ago) link
lmao
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 March 2022 03:26 (two years ago) link
i guess yelling scenes are necessary when the pacing is so s l o w
i mean it took them a whole episode just to get through the galactic barrier! this flash, i love you but we only have 48 hours to save the earth mission is going to be fully half the season
also way too much time spent on tarka, and book being endlessly stupid about tarka, but, you know, ~grieving~
― mookieproof, Saturday, 12 March 2022 03:35 (two years ago) link
yeah otm re book, hes been charlie brown footballed by tarka the whole fkn time and deep eternal eyerolls over this fkn emotion based math language i am so over it all yet here i am watching bc it might get good again 😬
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 March 2022 04:02 (two years ago) link
tbh i like the language stuff even if it's ripped straight out of arrival. it beats the endless aliens who are just humans with weird nose wrinkles or whatever
― mookieproof, Saturday, 12 March 2022 04:40 (two years ago) link
truei found the language stuff irritating bc it all seemed to meaningless handwavery but i was in a bad mood by then anyway
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 March 2022 05:43 (two years ago) link
have not seen this in a while is tarka an otter?
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 12 March 2022 07:23 (two years ago) link
to a species as technologically advanced as the 10C, we must all seem like otters
(but, sadly, no he is not)
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 12 March 2022 07:52 (two years ago) link
he is however a weasel:D
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 March 2022 08:23 (two years ago) link
lol v.good!
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 12 March 2022 08:41 (two years ago) link
I haven't felt compelled to pick this back up especially now that Picard might possibly be watchable -- seems like it's a justifiable choice!
― Vladimir Poutine (Leee), Sunday, 13 March 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link
sadly yeah
― mookieproof, Sunday, 13 March 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6Q86-MUsAY5yow.jpg
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 17 March 2022 07:51 (two years ago) link
Agreed. I was like "do you WANT people to stop liking this show guys? FFS". There was NO sense of urgency around working out the communication issue.
And Tarka is a fuckwit.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 17 March 2022 23:31 (two years ago) link
briefly wondered, in the finale, if tilly and vance were gonna bang
― mookieproof, Friday, 18 March 2022 00:13 (two years ago) link
heh I accidentally unhid that comment before I saw it and of course could think of nothing else during those scenes
in the bit where Burnham describes to the 10C that she's sad cos one of the ones who died on that ship was her special one - it would have been a really good jape if they had space magicked Tarka back to life instead
overall this season was a very 6/10 viewing experience - actually that is probably a bit generous?
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 18 March 2022 10:50 (two years ago) link