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so I have had my own idea for YEARS that I have told several ppl abt and have gotten a good response to and I think I am going to finally finally try to pull it off next year, I think I have maybe even talked abt it on here somewhere, but the song is this v inexplicable house remix of "Rubberband Girl" and the performance is a complete ripoff of UNZIPPED (1995) where it will be a fashion show and there will be all sorts of zany chaos and hijinks backstage but w like perfect immaculate runway walks the second they come out from behind the curtain, the performance has nothing to do w the music but maybe I'll get some LIVESTRONG bracelets made and throw them into the crowd idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KII-OXV86c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFBc4rXKkTU

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:37 (two years ago) link

AERIAL is honestly the best Kate Bush album

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link

also it is a bit $$$ (20 of them to be exact) but they are selling tickets for the livestream tomorrow night at 8:30! https://wl.seetickets.us/event/Night-of1000Kates/470113?afflky=UndergroundArts

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link

stevie i still have that KB shirt you sent me! it's a lil snug on me atm but whenever i wear it ppl always ask about it

donna rouge, Friday, 18 March 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link

omg mine too is a lil snug, I forget which one I sent you but the one I have has her face on it and my belly makes it fold in half so that it makes her look like that one picture of Aphex Twin

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Aphex_Twin_-_Syro_main_press_photo.jpg

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link

you sent me the glow in the dark one (which amazingly still works after probably dozens of laundry cycles)

donna rouge, Friday, 18 March 2022 20:49 (two years ago) link

I just watched unzipped recently and it was so good. also did you know there's a sister documentary called catwalk that basically follows Christy Turlington all over the world?
pretty awful what's going on with Linda Evangelista. she just released the first body pics of her condition due to coolsculpting. unimaginable.

Swen, Saturday, 19 March 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

I was sad to miss Kates. Heard my friend Anna blew it outta the park, and saw the wacky inflatable Cathy and Heathcliff blow-up piece on film. Looked like a really fun time, but we had planned a dinner months ago with our gay friends, one of whom is going through a health scare...so it seemed more important to hang out with them.

I finished "Detransition, Baby," yesterday, and while I thought it ended much too quickly, I thought it had some really lovely moments.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link

hope your friend is hanging in there <3

Swen, Monday, 21 March 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link

xp y0ung?? she fuckin KILLED it (as per usual). I hope they post a recording of the livestream.

Stevie D(eux), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:46 (two years ago) link

I've been listening to a lot of RuTH lately 🌄🌄🌄

Swen, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 04:20 (two years ago) link

yes Stevie, that Ann4

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link

o boy what a life we lead really

Swen, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

so I'm not sure when the next time I'll "meet" someone is, let's call it, due to extenuating circumstances

do i care?

will i ever go out to a bar and pick someone up again? i had occasional game. all of a sudden I'd love to meet someone younger than me. i usually don't gravitate to that realm. i wonder what that's about

Swen, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:35 (two years ago) link

you will absolutely go out to a bar and pick someone up again, it is so inevitable

Stevie D(eux), Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

Date tonight. At a (rooftop) bar. I shoulda asked if he's jabbed.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 March 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

first date? how did you meet? brown hair, big heart, bat eyelashes?

you know Stevie it's just at first it was pandemia, and then health stuff that's going to take another 6 months to settle. just didn't realize I'd be singing the same tune for the goddamn 3-year dark ages. but whatever i'm going to get so many beauty treatments when this is all through I plan on looking like Princess Jasmine meets Bella Hadid. mark my words.

also i quit smoking forever and it's truly something else. going on 6 months.

Swen, Sunday, 27 March 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link

my new issue of BUTT just arrived!!!!!!!!!

Stevie D(eux), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link

omg i already read some of the poems
how is it at large?

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

is it large?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

C'mon Simone, let's talk about your big "but."

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

I haven't read it yet bcz I got it at work and then *brag alert* went straight to my fuck buddy's house for a cute date and only just got home a few hours ago!!!

Stevie D(eux), Thursday, 31 March 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

butts all around

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

butts rule everything around me

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

OK SO
I'm not a butt man and i keep feeling more and more alone
like American men are just obsessed with them
i feel like there's something wrong with me

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link

Stevo you're killin it these days

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link

don't care about the outside, it's what's inside that counts imo

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

like the way it feels?

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link

yeah! i mean not to get too tmi or too cliche i guess but i just think anuses are this incredible part of us lol and i really like experiencing them.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link

So! My Saturday night date sold me out. I suspected trouble when I had to text him 15 mins before meeting: he was running late thanks to a "minor emergency" at his parents', whatever that means (what's a "minor" emergency?). Luckily a friend kept me company at the bar.

An hour later, date texts: "On my way, send location address plz?" That's the last I heard of him. For a while I thought he died -- until I saw a an Instagram post Sunday morning.

He's 24, a former student who emailed me four years after class to ask about getting a beer or coffee. On determining he was queer he gushed: he praised my self-assurance, brains, looks, etc. We might've met that night had I not plans already. It's worth noting I barely remember this kid in summer 2018.

I wonder if simply not showing up is a phenomenon of the young?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link

Anusii are a cliche?

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link

that sucks. definitely hit next. it's been a phenomenon of the young and old as long as i've been dating tbh. xp

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I wanted to avoid generational generalization, but a few viejos noted The Vanishing has been more prevalent in the last four years.

I've ghosted more than my share, I should note.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link

I have never done this, to my knowledge?

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 31 March 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link

me eiths it's dumb
I'm too polite though

Swen, Friday, 1 April 2022 01:32 (two years ago) link

wassup homieslice

Swen, Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link

good morning!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:02 (two years ago) link

Mornin' sunshine!
What's on the platter?

Swen, Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link

I'm vegetarian tonight.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:21 (two years ago) link

sexually or culinarily?

Swen, Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:00 (two years ago) link

Lady Bracknell : Well, both, if necessary, I presume!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:11 (two years ago) link

So, I’m in one of the only two gay bars in Marbella (southern coast of Spain) right now, and the thing here is that high heeled shoes are passed around, everyone tries them on, and then they take their turn swishing down what passes for a catwalk. Pleased to report that my boy got the loudest applause of the night. We make our own entertainment.

The bar is filling up because at 4am they close the doors, bring out the ashtrays, and everyone can smoke indoors.

We will be back tomorrow for drag queen bingo.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:30 (two years ago) link

omgggggg jealous

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:35 (two years ago) link

Oh I forgot to mention the seventy something naked woman who did her catwalk turn clutching a large stuffed teddy bear.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:39 (two years ago) link

stop

Swen, Sunday, 3 April 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link

jealz to the max

Swen, Sunday, 3 April 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link

Just ended a fabulous evening with j0rdan.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 April 2022 04:15 (two years ago) link

yesss. what did y'all do?

Swen, Sunday, 3 April 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

we went to a sports bar so i could watch basketball while we talked about madonna

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link

...and Mariah Carey. And my terrible non-date last week.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 April 2022 22:45 (two years ago) link

aw yeah kate, looking fly, badass and cute all at the same time!

― he/him hoo-hah (map

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:40 (six days ago) link

^yes!! xp

so many cuties here. NOT that i’m surprised!

donna rouge, Monday, 23 September 2024 19:41 (six days ago) link

Me on the right on this current trip:

https://imgur.com/a/rk9VbXv

Tim F, Monday, 23 September 2024 19:41 (six days ago) link

dang tim, looking good - are those friends or relatives?

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:43 (six days ago) link

Oh HELLO

mike t-diva, Monday, 23 September 2024 19:43 (six days ago) link

Tim F with the smug look of a person who survived a night of sin and can be coherent with loved ones the next ay.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:45 (six days ago) link

day even

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:45 (six days ago) link

just one night full of sin (oh ohh oh ohhh)

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:46 (six days ago) link

Friends / Boating Buddies

I had actually been well behaved the night before that photo. Less so the evening following.

Tim F, Monday, 23 September 2024 19:50 (six days ago) link

also gotta say that dr you are looking like an italian stallion!! :D

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:54 (six days ago) link

posting again because my last post got swallowed, apparently

https://archive.org/details/img-3617_202409

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:12 (six days ago) link

also right after this we saw Stevie D

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:12 (six days ago) link

aw yeah kate, looking fly, badass and cute all at the same time!

― he/him hoo-hah (map

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

thanks, that's why i wanted to share the pic, i feel like it just strikes that perfect balance of basic middle-aged white lady and transgressive outsider. :)

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:28 (six days ago) link

yes love that shirt kate, very much a lqqk

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:38 (six days ago) link

btw i love "basic" middle aged ladies - always have, sure there's a lot to unpack there!

Swen, Monday, 23 September 2024 23:52 (six days ago) link

Green jacket is a+

Tim F, Monday, 23 September 2024 23:57 (six days ago) link

Yes, the green jacket is my favorite piece of the ensemble.

well it's the risk, everything is a risk calculation for me. is this going to be genuinely healing and help me further build resilience and an inherent sense of self-worth, or am i going to be retraumatized? i mean, you know why i hate cops? i hate cops because i have to fucking _be_ a cop. i have to protect myself and the people i care about from people who are a threat to me, and that includes a lot of people who say, and might even believe, they want to protect me. i'm ok with being vigilant. vigilance is good, vigilance is important. i'm fucking tired of being hypervigilant. it's exhausting.

So like my job is literally to prevent intruders from breaching a boundary (although in practice, this mostly amounts to not falling asleep and keeping the lobby clean). But I think I feel the same sense of responsibility to "be a cop" in my personal life that you're describing, to "defend against robbers", I guess.

The thing is, I find it very easy to be on guard and to regard people with suspicion. I've lived most of my life in NYC- not just NYC but specifically Manhattan, where there are about 100,000 other people in my immediate area. And their activities are often grating and disruptive to me, I mean not having any personal space whatsoever tends to make people very neurotic. Myself most certainly included! Everyone here is pretty on edge all the time. And living in a city with 8 million people is, I think, the most isolating thing. In a way, it's liberating to be able to disappear in plain sight. But it doesn't really foster community when your goal and that of the others around you is to avoid making eye contact with each other (by the way, donna rogue, you have beautiful eyes). In the little village where I used to live, when you see another person, you say "hello" to each other - that changes everything.

The *challenge* of being vigilant is one of extending empathy to people I'm afraid of, people who appear to pose a threat. Letting my guard down is vigilance, tolerating disturbances is vigilance in that sense. I'm aware that I say this from a position of male privilege (because I'm male-presenting, more or less). But anyway, Kate, you seem like you would be really good at this. People just don't always know how to speak and act in a way that makes their good intentions clear. Because I agree with you about mixed and pangender bars (I'll admit that I leave my house just often enough to have noticed the sea change). One thing about the changes in the ways we think about gender- it makes it very hard to cling to those comfortable assumptions about who people *are*, let alone what they're after. The best thing in the world, to me as a queer, is to be able to go to a queer bar and to be keenly aware that I can't tell anything about who anyone is by looking at them. This is what makes me feel welcome and included, ultimately.

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:13 (five days ago) link

I mean, I can infer, at best. But I can;t assume.

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:17 (five days ago) link

Yes, the green jacket is my favorite piece of the ensemble.

that's fucking wild to me because it's just my standard rain jacket. i bought it, like, seven years ago, it's a university of oregon jacket. it was cheap. i have no feelings at all about the ducks.

The *challenge* of being vigilant is one of extending empathy to people I'm afraid of, people who appear to pose a threat. Letting my guard down is vigilance, tolerating disturbances is vigilance in that sense. I'm aware that I say this from a position of male privilege (because I'm male-presenting, more or less). But anyway, Kate, you seem like you would be really good at this. People just don't always know how to speak and act in a way that makes their good intentions clear. Because I agree with you about mixed and pangender bars (I'll admit that I leave my house just often enough to have noticed the sea change). One thing about the changes in the ways we think about gender- it makes it very hard to cling to those comfortable assumptions about who people *are*, let alone what they're after. The best thing in the world, to me as a queer, is to be able to go to a queer bar and to be keenly aware that I can't tell anything about who anyone is by looking at them. This is what makes me feel welcome and included, ultimately.

― Deflatormouse

i'd say that i've developed a certain skill in de-escalating, in large part because i'm a highly sensitive person and have had to work really hard to self-regulate. unfortunately it's not really a _differentiated_ form of de-escalation. i feel like intimate encounters inherently involve a certain amount of tension, of risk, and i find that i'm always fucking de-escalating, whether i want to or not. :(

anyway it's not a problem i'm trying to solve here, mostly just venting :)

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 19:55 (five days ago) link

I can relate and my instinct is usually to want to postpone unexpected encounters, which obv doesn't work.

that's fucking wild to me because it's just my standard rain jacket. i bought it, like, seven years ago, it's a university of oregon jacket. it was cheap. i have no feelings at all about the ducks.

the photo is missing a lot of that information. I like that I can't really tell what it is, but it seems like it might have a certain mojo to it.
makes the outfit whole imo.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 18:55 (four days ago) link

hiiiiiii happy weekend fuck

Swen, Saturday, 28 September 2024 01:06 (yesterday) link

celebrating by eating a lot of tortilla chips

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 28 September 2024 01:26 (yesterday) link

omg i have a new favorite snack - tortilla chips and CHIPOTLE DIP

Swen, Saturday, 28 September 2024 01:29 (yesterday) link

big fan of the dips

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 28 September 2024 01:31 (yesterday) link

sometimes i get 'bitchin sauce' to go with my chips but tonight it was hummus. what are you up to tonight hun?

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 28 September 2024 01:32 (yesterday) link

hiiiiiii happy weekend fuck

otm
I am going to work in a few tho :(

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 28 September 2024 01:36 (yesterday) link

TO BE HONEST IM STILL WORKING ON YOU KNOW WHAT SONG

i've realized i'm literally never going to tell anyone a project is finished until i've road tested it at least a dozen times with weeks apart in the last 2-3 times (you know shit ALWAYS sounds different with time)

which is ALSO WHY i haven't had a chance to play with ANY OTHER MUSIC so expect an update from me on that, i have NOT forgotten about your work (but of course understand if it's off limits by now)

i really do think you're going to be happy with the final product though

Swen, Saturday, 28 September 2024 02:10 (yesterday) link

i tried bitchin sauce recently! also deflatormouse that means you have an income tho so that's pretty cool. ugh why i am such a silver lining person.

Swen, Saturday, 28 September 2024 02:11 (yesterday) link

also just to say i gave the fella a good long kiss the other night because he had long been away and i can FULLY confirm that absence makes the heart grow much fonder (and the boner grow bonerer)

i would say i felt weak in the knees but literally i felt weak in my whole body! i did not know this was a thing, i think i just thought i could not meet someone quite so kindred, cut from the same cloth. it's truly a whole body phenomenon i've not been privy to. so better late than never i guess and superbly, overwhelmingly grateful.

on Sunday i go to my current best bud / ex boyfriend's wedding - woosh it will be interesting! watching the whole thing with his family will be awks but life is awks right?

Swen, Saturday, 28 September 2024 05:55 (yesterday) link

Got home five hours ago from a quiet happy hour with my boy only to be joined by his boyfriend and his friends. We walked to a bar a couple blocks away for some dancing. I ended up making out quickly with the boyfriend, who for months had been jealous of me.

Good morning!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2024 09:47 (yesterday) link

nailed it

Swen, Saturday, 28 September 2024 11:37 (yesterday) link

I’m in a cab coming back from a fantastic week in Porto.

btw if you can figure out any way to swing a trip to Porto, DO IT

DJP, Saturday, 28 September 2024 18:08 (yesterday) link

what did you like about it? we were all talking about travel destinations the other day and about how friends recommend portugal but were unsure about the specific reasons why. like compared to spain or italy?

i don't like traveling by plane but there are 2-3 places overseas i would like to experience eventually. japan, italy, basque area of france / spain.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 28 September 2024 18:25 (yesterday) link

oh england and scotland tbh. so i can meet some ilx pals :)

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 28 September 2024 18:28 (yesterday) link

1. The old town is not believably picturesque. Portal is known for tile work and most of the buildings sport amazing designs.

2. The touristy stuff is actually good. We didn’t hit all the spots but we did see the contemporary art museum, which was hosting a retrospective of the life of Yoyai Kusama, and the national museum, which had a deep dive into the development of Portugal’s fine art scene. We also saw a fado performance that was absolutely stunning (3 guitarists, 2 vocalists), did a tour of Taylor’s port that was awesome, and did a day long boat ride down the Douro River that was gorgeous where they served us a real lunch cooked on the ship in a fully-appointed kitchen rather than microwaving a prepackaged meal.

3. Food is surprisingly cheap (compared to Boston). We splurged since this was a honeymoon trip and went to two Michelin-starred restaurants (dinner at Elemento, lunch at Casa de Chá da Boa Nova) and yes, they were very expensive, but especially Elemento would have been twice as much had it been in the US. Most of the normal restaurants averaged out at $30/person for appetizers, entree, cocktails, and an entire bottle of wine.

4. The street musicians are INSANELY GOOD. Like, 95% of them should be signed artists. My favorites were the three-piece band that was just unbelievably tight and this woman with a beautiful voice who would play the bridge to the songs she was covering on trombone.

We didn’t come close to seeing everything; we just would pick a direction at the start of the day and enjoy whatever we came across sight- and food-wise. We also were told about a monthly gay expat meetup where we met and hung out with some very friendly gentlemen who invited us to Thai food afterward (this did lead to an awkward “ooh sorry, we are not interested in a nightcap” moment but overall it was a fun night).

My one regret is that I’m now too old to party all night the way the city wants to; we took a car to the airport at 3:30 AM this morning and people were just leaving the nightclubs.

DJP, Saturday, 28 September 2024 18:55 (yesterday) link

Oh fuck this phone. Remove “not” from bullet #1 and “Portal” is obv supposed to be “Porto”

DJP, Saturday, 28 September 2024 18:57 (yesterday) link

very cool, thanks for the scene report.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 28 September 2024 19:19 (yesterday) link

No problem! At some point pictures will go up on Facebook so you can get a better sense of what we did

DJP, Saturday, 28 September 2024 19:30 (yesterday) link

Thanks! I'm going to Lisbon and Porto next June.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2024 19:52 (yesterday) link

jealz - i really am thinking Berlin is where i'll need to go as my first solo international trip, i just need somewhere where it's easy to go out and very "for dummies". it'll be cool cuz i can "work from hotel" during the day then just live the life.

Swen, Saturday, 28 September 2024 20:28 (yesterday) link


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