I quit after a few eps of season 3, guess I’m not missing much. At least there doesn’t seem like a legit reason to watch this rather than carry on my long slow trawl through ds9 (mid season 2 now…)
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link
But generally I agree the show is bad. Even the worst TOS/TNG/DS9 episodes have their wonderful casts and groovy/haunting period aesthetics to fall back on; I don’t get much from the writing or the performances here (or in Picard). I liked the three leads from Strange New Worlds though, so… maybe
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
And the aesthetics are just too “streaming show shot in Canada”
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link
Stamets and the Doctor were good characters and Book for most of his first season but they've dragged them down to wallow with the rest of the cast.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:46 (two years ago) link
I've just picked back up on the back half of the most recent season because my mom needs someone to complain to about how bad it is, really really hate the Federation President. One off bad political bosses are fine in ST IMO but they don't need to show up and meddle in every episode.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link
i actually involuntarily groaned aloud in the finale when the doctor said 'i needed to be here with my family'
― mookieproof, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link
I had to really think back to even remember there'd been some good plotlines! The whole mirror universe arc/Bad Isaacs, even part of the earlier Ash/Burnham story (after the klingon bit mostly fucked off). The spore drive discovery, chasing the red stars... ok so everythign til they jumped 900 years effectively.
Bring on the Pike and Kirk show, please.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link
Remember when there's a huge battle going on and thousands of people are dying and Burnham and Spock take a time out to chat about their feelings instead of getting on with it?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 19 March 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link
This show did that a LOT and it was very baffling.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 21 March 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link
it's not as pithy, but "jump cut to the ready room where everything is soft focus and ferns and water features, and Michael and Saru gently touch each other's upper forearms and express their appreciation for togetherness at this difficult time" ranks beside "make it saab" in the canon of unforgettable ST summaries. It's taking me forever to get through this damn series.
― stet, Friday, 9 September 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link
First episode of S5, still not great. Less terrible therapy talk but the dialogue (and way they shot dialogue scenes) was stilted and awkward.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 5 April 2024 13:05 (five months ago) link
Oh wow, didn't even know it was back
― groovypanda, Friday, 5 April 2024 13:59 (five months ago) link
First ep was ... so busy. I've been watching a lot ofold trek + lower decks lately, so going back to the shaky-cam and lens-flare CGI everything tone of DISC was a bit of whiplash.
But!
I was pleased to see a lot more Trek fanservice in ep 2. Self sealing stem bolts! Picard! Mentions of the Breen! A Soongian android! (he was great - wish they hadnt killed him off) The progenitors! If that/they will be the main storyline btw I am all for it. Now, I guess I need to rewatch "The Chase" to get it in my head again.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 5 April 2024 23:27 (five months ago) link
In summary, I feel like the showrunners may have actually learned something from the reception SNW and LD has had, and started applying it here too?
How did I miss this was back? They must’ve done zero promo… I bought pizza last night and actively wished that I could eat it watching a schlocky ep of Disco (ended up watching Repo Man fyi)
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Friday, 5 April 2024 23:41 (five months ago) link
i like the story but same w trayce the style felt jarrong this time. and the action sequences especially all felt like sooo stupid! it was like they were going for starwars pod race vibes. super dumb space surfing? please fuck off.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 03:17 (five months ago) link
*jarring
Yeah Burnham riding the outside of a ship in warp? GTFO with that. And yeah I had Star Wars vibes all thru this ep as well!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:31 (five months ago) link
OH. And reading a recap just now, reminds me of the scene where the new cap'n on the Antares exclaims "70% for the win!" which REALLY clanged. That stupid phrase is dated NOW, let alone 100s of years from now, ugh.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:39 (five months ago) link
lame
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:48 (five months ago) link
still LOVING cronenburg thohe is a delight
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:24 (five months ago) link
I tuned out during the desert speed racer seen. You’re not just ripping off Star Wars, you’re ripping off the WORST Star Wars.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:27 (five months ago) link
After Strange New Worlds, it’s jarring how little anyone outside of Michael and maybe 2-3 other people matter.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:30 (five months ago) link
Ive been reflecting more on it ,having just watched a few STNG eps. One was basically a whole-episode meditation on Worf dealing with being a single dad (shittily, natch). But it made me think: with 25+ eps a season, you had *time* to spend a whole ep on one character's arc, story, persona. This has prob been said loads I'm sure but the streaming era sucks in that they have to cram everything in with only 8-10 eps per season and insisting on season-long story arcs. Its hard to feel any connection to anyone when we're busy watching them just react to the situation all the time and not stopping to just exist once in a while. I'd argue even SNW/LD have this problem!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:42 (five months ago) link
TL;DR: old crone yells at cloud, no one takes the time anymore, yadda yadda.
no that’s just itstrange new worlds can give a whole episode to a story, and yes maybe thats a function of it being a throwback but disco feels like it’s always running 4 plots every episode and doing all of them half justice. it makes me not care abt any of it!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 06:16 (five months ago) link
Strange New Worlds was worse on the fun episodic content in the second season (still loads better than Discovery, of course).
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 07:15 (five months ago) link
I mean it had the LD crossover and the musical episode alone!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 April 2024 16:49 (five months ago) link
yeah idk milo maybe you forgot more of s2 than u remembered
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:55 (five months ago) link
The musical episode was the opposite of fun (though episodic). They did way more Discovery feelings talk this season.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 20:19 (five months ago) link
this show can be pretty dumb but I still feel a sneaking fondness towards it
first two episodes were fine but I did have a sinking feeling when the segments of the season-long story arc started clunking into place
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:02 (five months ago) link
like another mcguffiny quest and at the end we will for sure be staring in awe at a cgi aurora borealis contemplating the wonder of creation in a canonically non-conclusive way
and saru will be back just to up the hugs and feelings quotient
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:05 (five months ago) link
I mean probably that is just Star Trek and I should relax into it
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:06 (five months ago) link
lol otm no lies told
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:24 (five months ago) link
briefly wondered, in the finale, if tilly and vance were gonna bang
― mookieproof, Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:13 PM (two years ago)
this should have happened imo
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:40 (five months ago) link
another map with x locations they need to visit to uncover a secret, just like the red angel in season 2. hopefully no time travel this time.
also has the star trek v problem in that there is no way the progenitors stuff has a satisfying payoff.
ep2 had some breathing room for banter with saru. i liked that. is saru gone now?
― formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:54 (five months ago) link
I liked the first two seasons well enough but tapped out a few episodes into the third season because Michael was so boring without a Spock/Jason Isaacs/Michelle Yeoh to play off.
I think I’ll skip 3&4 and watch this last season though. Did I miss anything? Why is David Cronenberg wearing a 20th century suit? Did Michael and Book ever threaten to become interesting?
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:02 (five months ago) link
I hope the reveal is that the Cronenberg character is actually David Cronenberg...
There's something super-Canadian about latter day Trek (not that Trek was ever lacking Canadian-ness via Shatner) that gives it an off-brand forgettableness. I think Callum Rennie was even in ExistenZ(!)
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 7 April 2024 17:28 (five months ago) link
Yeah Red Angel all over again was what came immediately to mind for me too xpsAlso stunned that the first clue points to Trill, just after Adira says she's happier separated from Gray
― groovypanda, Sunday, 7 April 2024 19:12 (five months ago) link
i torrented the first two episodes but in the highlights from last season someone 'felt seen' and then in the first scene all the annoying characters (i.e. *not* owosekun or at least detmer) are being sad/bitchy and you know what? fuck that, i'm out
*almost* want to keep watching just for cronenberg but it's not enough
― mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2024 05:34 (five months ago) link
I watched S05 E03 but have no real memory of it
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Monday, 15 April 2024 05:54 (five months ago) link
Trill mindmeld and cloaking monster and puzzle piece something something something (why have Klingons disappeared in the 32nd century?). It's still bad but now I'm stuck and have to finish the season.
Amazing how the then-seemingly-bad first couple of seasons seem solid in comparison, at least you had Jason Patrick and Space Hitler chewing scenery.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 April 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link
S3 was really weird and the plot is feeling horribly clumsy. It seems to basically be turning into zelda triforce fetchquest. Ugh.
Oh and as someone on IMDB pointed out, whats the point of finding any of this now when they had a Genesis device in S3 of Picard?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:30 (five months ago) link
Sorry I meant EP 3, dammit.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:32 (five months ago) link
But having said that - Culber-as-Jinraal was pretty fun, Wilson Cruz acted that up really well, and I liked how it was a callback to when all the DS9 crew had to go around manifesting Curzon and all Dax's other peeps.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:34 (five months ago) link
oh man the actor who manifested joran(?) for ezri in DS9 s07 was almost unbearably over-the-top
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:37 (five months ago) link
Was he the serial killer one the whole point it was for? I cant actually remember it now lol, and I only watched it last year.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 05:00 (five months ago) link
yes! so bad
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 05:47 (five months ago) link
Joran, the pick-me serial killer
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:05 (five months ago) link
Discovery this season seems like a video game, collect all the pieces of the puzzle type quest. The graphics seem kinda gamey too cf Michael surfing on a spaceship in a "warp bubble".
― BrianB, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:01 (five months ago) link