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in man alive's defense (and you know I've been one of his biggest critics here), I think that tweet was irresponsible because it makes it sound like vaccines and boosters are useless (which he does expand upon and say he's not saying in further tweets, but most people read the first tweet).

and he's using anecdotal data without further extrapolation.

so I peeled back the layer a little bit further, and found out he's one of the "Zero COVID" cultists that follows the rogue's gallery of unhinged lunatics like Zoe Hyde, Anthony J Leonardi (who has come under fire for saying SARS = basically HIV), and Dr. Lisa Iannattone, a dermatologist who had the audacity to misrepresent a recent COVID study and then when the author said she was misrepresenting her conclusions, basically said he was incompetent (even though he designed the study).

I think if he had said:

"Look, vaccines and boosters greatly reduce the risk of severe outcomes, but there are still some elderly folks who are still succumbing to the disease. that's why masking and ventilation are important as well, take care of yourselves" - rather than a panic inducing tweet like the elderly are dying en masse due to failing vaccines, suggesting it's more pathogenic like Delta, which all of the real world data (sans one study with hamsters which has been an outlier) has suggested otherwise.

like, shit's bad right now, but I get why this doc's tweets provoked such a reaction.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 14 May 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

I'm a little frustrated that all of the data analysts I used to read that talked about waves and their trajectory just quit writing about COVID altogether, so wanting an analysis of when we might peak, etc, is completely absent now. and the wastewater data the CDC publishes is useless, or in many cases out of date, and I barely know how to interpret it anyway.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 14 May 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link

Exactly, xp

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link

xp if my "it peaks in the uk ~2 months before the US" continues to be correct, it's going to peak in the US in about a month.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 04:33 (two years ago) link

I'm looking more for my individual state since it is hitting different regions at different times, but agree with your general timeline for the US as a whole.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 May 2022 05:00 (two years ago) link

China didn't share their vaccine with NK? Seems kind of surprising.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 15 May 2022 05:36 (two years ago) link

The North Koreans didn't want it

Pyongyang turned down an earlier offer of 3 million Covid-19 vaccine doses of China's Sinovac Biotech.

groovemaaan, Sunday, 15 May 2022 11:45 (two years ago) link

So, is anyone NOT immunocompromised or over 50 and planning to get the second booster? I'm considering it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:33 (two years ago) link

I think they are testing a booster (they = Moderna and probably others) which is aimed at a broader range of variants, will probably stick it out for that one.

gyac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:39 (two years ago) link

I am flying to Italy in late August and planning to get the second booster in mid-July or so.

I am technically not immunocompromised, given my latest blood work, just on the low side of normal. I have Covid currently so think I will wait a bit, but I will definitely get a booster before the cold weather hits again in the fall.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:57 (two years ago) link

How are you getting on with covid, table?

gyac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

Thank you for asking, I am doing okay— it seems the worst of the symptoms have gone away, with the main remaining symptom a sort of unpredictable fatigue. I go from feeling relatively normal— I even lifted some weights last night during an energetic period, for example— to feeling like I’ve been hit by a bus and needing a good 45 minute nap.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:10 (two years ago) link

Hope that’s as bad as it was. I had the fatigue for a couple of weeks after, but it’s entirely gone now, I stupidly worked during most of it cos wfh and it honestly was very coldlike, but in retrospect I was so tired after I should have rested. Go easy on yourself!

gyac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link

I am rather lucky at the moment, in a way, as I am looking for work while still facilitating a workshop per week, so I have minimal work to keep me too busy. I plan on resting as much as possible, which I am very good at lmfao.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link

Third round of at-home tests in the US available:

https://special.usps.com/testkits

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 May 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link

Thanks, Ned!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 May 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link

yes, thank you.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 16 May 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link

Ordered!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 May 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

U.S. monkeypox case reported, as Spain, Portugal report infections in growing outbreak https://t.co/t3ZZDcuSEx via @HelenBranswell

— Adam Feuerstein (@adamfeuerstein) May 18, 2022

éľś, Thursday, 19 May 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link

U.S. monkeypox case reported, as Spain, Portugal report infections in growing outbreak https://t.co/t3ZZDcuSEx via @HelenBranswell

— Adam Feuerstein (@adamfeuerstein) May 18, 2022

éľś, Thursday, 19 May 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link

Spreading already

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 19 May 2022 03:03 (two years ago) link

that's what infectious diseases do. i'll worry more when health authorities indicate it is spreading faster than containment measures are controlling.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 May 2022 03:12 (two years ago) link

What are the current containment measures?

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Thursday, 19 May 2022 04:12 (two years ago) link

Avoiding close personal contact. They think it might be spreading via sex which would be new but it's a theory

mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 May 2022 04:52 (two years ago) link

Own the libs by having monkey sex monkey pox parties

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 May 2022 06:05 (two years ago) link

I was making a joke about the repeated post, Aimless.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 19 May 2022 07:36 (two years ago) link

I think most of us already know to avoid him, but Fiegl-Ding is wholeheartedly jumping onto the misinformation doom train with monkeypox. What's more sad is the legions of replies to his tweets that are thanking him for being such a wise sage over the last two years.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 May 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link

yeah, he's a piece of shit and a liar. ffs it already has a vaccine that can be administered up to 4 days after exposure, you're not contagious until after you have symptoms, and deaths almost never happen in "first world" countries like his own (for lack of a better term). for his followers, though, he has to keep the threat of death in the US afloat because they would naturally not care if you told them that deaths are more likely in lesser-developed countries. these cultists are always very US centric..

mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 May 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

btw, he's part of a cult of insanity that includes (in case you want to block any of these voices on Twitter):

Denise DeWald
AJ Leonardi
Zoe Hyde
Alex Meshkin

mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 May 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link

Already had a couple of those blocked, but I'm adding the others. The only reason I even knew about the latest EFD thing was my wife had to set a FB acquaintance straight who shared his recent misinformation about monkeypox.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 May 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

I've had a HUGE problem with the way the media is portraying this. last thing we need is more othering and stigmatizing.

mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 May 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link

don't read the tweet responses - twitter experts already think they are experts on Monkeypox.

Good Morning
- Monkeypox doesn't have a doubling time of 3days.
- It's likely been circulating in Europe since April.
- Incubation is long, suspicion was low thus allowed for stealth transmissions.
- Most cases are mild.
- Close contacts facilitate transmission.

— BK Titanji #IAmAScientist🇨🇲 (@Boghuma) May 24, 2022

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

people also falsely claiming it's 'airborne' like COVID rather than it could theoretically be spread by aerosols but person to person contact is main method of spread. and much less likely to wildly mutate as it's a DNA virus , not RNA.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link

people also falsely claiming it's 'airborne' like COVID rather than it could theoretically be spread by aerosols but person to person contact is main method of spread. and much less likely to wildly mutate as it's a DNA virus , not RNA.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link

difficult to take seriously. makes me think of monkey tennis.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

is that a Wii game

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:39 (two years ago) link

there was a tennis-a-like that was part of super monkey ball.

but 'monkey tennis' is one of alan partridge's suggestions for new shows he pitches at the tv exec after he loses his own show

koogs, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

i did not know the cdc is suggesting/semi-recommending people wait for a second booster based on the possibility of a new vaccine:

Even if you are eligible for a 2nd booster, you may consider waiting to get a 2nd booster if you:

Had COVID-19 within the past 3 months
Feel that getting a 2nd booster now would make you not want to get another booster in the future (a 2nd booster may be more important in fall of 2022, or if a new vaccine for a future COVID-19 variant becomes available)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

Hm. I was starting to look for second booster appointments...

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:00 (two years ago) link

"don't get this thing in case we get a better thing"

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:02 (two years ago) link

i am fairly confident we will have some kind of Omicron booster later this year, but I think the CDC is forgetting the lag time between approval and production ramp-up to where people can get the damn thing.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:03 (two years ago) link

Feel that getting a 2nd booster now would make you not want to get another booster in the future...

If nothing else, the CDC has learned that feelings are the most important component of the public's decision making process.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

btw, the cdc didn't say that getting a 2nd booster now would disqualify you from getting yet another booster in the fall, but they left room for that misunderstanding in how they phrased their advice.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link

congratulations to the CDC once again

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

The other night, felt self-conscious for the first time about being masked up in an indoor environment (bookstore) where no one else was wearing a mask. I don't want to stop wearing one in circumstances where it's no trouble just for reasons of self-consciousness, but I wonder if it will get harder and harder. Then again, there have been lots of other occasions where I was the only masked person and it didn't feel weird, so maybe it was just the vibe in this bookstore.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:12 (two years ago) link

They're liberals. Liberals don't catch COVID.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

This guy in the supermarket
Made fun of me for being safe
it's ok
he was old anyway

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link

i'm way less self-conscious about it now than I was not too long ago, but it helps to have satanic tattoos, a black KN95 that makes me look like Bane, and my father's bug-eyed glare.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link


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