outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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Me too! I've been careful-ish but not EXTREMELY careful. Plenty of people have done more and still gotten infected. Who really knows.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 22 July 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link

Yep. Plenty of people I know who were like "I have fucking idea how I got this, I didn't leave the house this week"

I know a half dozen people (all fully vaxxed + boostered, in a region that is generally highly-vaxxed) who are in some stage of COVID infection atm. And a couple more who just got past it. One of these people is a critical care pulmonologist who has been working in a severely undervaxxed community throughout the pandemic and has had a ton of previous exposure without getting infected. I hardly even know more than a half dozen people so this shit is NUTS.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 July 2022 23:10 (two years ago) link

Just tested positive. With the fun twist that three weeks ago I got bitten by a dog and they put me on antibiotics and the antibiotics destroyed my gut flora and today I also tested positive for c.diff. So this will be an interesting medical situation to navigate. Not crazy about the way this summer is going, tbh.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 23 July 2022 01:04 (two years ago) link

Aw shit :(. I'm sorry Lily

Thanks, Neanderthal!

Lily Dale, Saturday, 23 July 2022 01:10 (two years ago) link

"C. diff summer"

Hang in there, Lily.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 23 July 2022 01:11 (two years ago) link

Good luck Lily, that's no fun at all.

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Saturday, 23 July 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link

Oof sorry.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 23 July 2022 02:21 (two years ago) link

Oh man, Lily that is a bad run of rotten things. Really hope all starts coming right for you soon.

Today I ran home to grab some boxes of Covid tests for work because we were out and a coworker who recently returned from vacation was a bit sniffly but wanted to come in for an insurance walk-through. She'd ordered tests but they hadn't shown up. I gave her one to take while she sat in her car. And yep - positive.

Jaq, Saturday, 23 July 2022 03:59 (two years ago) link

Wow, good call.

yeah, I know, right? With all that and getting shingles back in June, I can't decide if I feel like Job or like an entire Oregon Trail team that's been going at a grueling pace since they left Independence. The weird thing is that everything's been fairly mild: the shingles and the dog bite healed right up pretty quickly, and the c.diff feels like it's getting better on its own, though I'll take antibiotics to make sure. Too early to tell on the Covid but it's starting with a mild sore throat so here's hoping it stays mild.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 23 July 2022 04:07 (two years ago) link

visited dad for an hour only today, didn't touch him or get close, wore gloves and N95. mom and I are still negative (I had a PCR only two hours ago), dad tested negative either yesterday or Thursday.

I bought a home test and administered one on dad today and he's still negative, and he looks well. and his roommate isn't returning to the room per the nurse (I really hope that doesn't mean he passed away - but it doesn't necessarily mean that, they often move them to another room on readmission).

here's hoping my dad had immune system of steel, and ventilation and privacy curtain kept it away from him.

was good to see him today. he smiled and laughed a bunch. my complaints got the bed rails I asked for too. we are likely bringing him home this week regardless. if he somehow becomes sick, we'll wear gloves and PPE in the home. I just want him here.

study out of the UK saying there's a chance people with allergies/allergic rhinitis have lower chance of getting COVID. I've wondered how I've been so lucky. I'm careful but I've taken my risks. I know it's been luck. And it's been being careful. But maybe, just maybe, my inflamed allergic body is extra good at fighting off COVID. Doesn't make a ton of sense, it wasn't good at fighting off any number of other sicknesses. Let me dream.

dan selzer, Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:32 (two years ago) link

That's really interesting as I suffer from both. Frankly, I think it's a miracle I have avoided Omicron so far (I had Delta almost exactly a year ago) as I've been at dozens of packed festivals, clubs and gigs and on at least 50 flights this year (I still wear a mask on flights along with about 5% of other passengers). Last week an estimated one in 9 people in Glasgow had it. I guess I could have had it asymptomatically and if not I do think I'll get it at some point but the allergies/allergic rhinitis theory could be a factor as to how I have avoided it so far when almost everyone around me has had it.

stirmonster, Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:53 (two years ago) link

yeah that's interesting - I had delta (presumably) in November, and have been in loads of crowded places since then, been pinged by the covid app 4 times and got nothing. but I also have pretty bad hayfever. assumed I've been pushing my luck and just got lucky. it's probably also that.

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:59 (two years ago) link

I found the study which also adds especially if they also have asthma, which i also have. I never thought there would ever be a possible upside to having these afflictions.

stirmonster, Sunday, 24 July 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link

The thing is, we've finally learned: good N or K-95 masks....work.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 July 2022 01:36 (two years ago) link

I’ve only been on 4 flights but I’m also commuting to work twice a week and in an office where most people aren’t masked. I put my mask in for the train, when I’m going with the bathroom or riding the elevator etc. following most of the advice which says prob ok to be outside without a mask so long as it’s not crazy crowded but I put my mask on to go indoors. Where most people aren’t masked. And always kn95 now. I worry about when the weather gets cold again and outdoor activities aren’t so easy.

Anyway before this study I was already wondering if my daily spraying of Nasonex somehow helped. Seemed silly but you’re spraying steroids or whatever in your nose seemed like maybe it does something.

dan selzer, Sunday, 24 July 2022 03:00 (two years ago) link

FYI, doing the throat swab when testing worked really well for me. I had a mild sore throat start at 4 in the morning, tested sometime mid-morning with just the nasal swab and it was negative. Tested again that afternoon when I was just starting to have cold symptoms, did a quick swab of the part of my throat that felt inflamed, and the positive result came right up.

Lily Dale, Monday, 25 July 2022 00:29 (two years ago) link

especially before a Negroni

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 July 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link

j/k couldn't resist

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 July 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link

i lolled, feel better Lily and all others who got the rona

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Monday, 25 July 2022 02:38 (two years ago) link

where is this new study regarding allergies and rhinitis? searching, i turned up something almost a year old.

Curious because this might be how I've still not had it.. even after my wife had a bad week with it, a month ago.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 14:29 (two years ago) link

we think dad avoided getting it, somehow, despite sharing a room with an infected roommate (who is now in the hospital).

I am visiting him today and may shove a swab up his nose. and then after thinking about giving him a COVID test.

if we can get him back home with no infection, 80% of my stress goes away.

I think it was this, so maybe an older study, can't remember where I just saw it as if it was new news. https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/allergic-conditions-linked-to-lower-covid-19-infection-risk/

dan selzer, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 14:53 (two years ago) link

neanderthal is your da eligible for evushield?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

also did everyone else know evushield's formulary unbranded name is "Tixagevimab-Cilgavimab"?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

Gesundheit

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

xp
Take it to the Great Real Names thread, buddy!

nickn, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

Thanks, Dan, that's what I turned up. Dated Nov 30. News to me anyhow.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

I've looked into Evushield but I have never looked further because I don't think he's truly considered 'immunocompromised', and he mounted an immune response to the vaccines. but perhaps I should look closer into it, because otherwise it's something I would want to do.

he is however double boosted, thankfully.

https://covidsafe.fyi/evusheld/guide/ might be useful

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link

cases in FL down 4% from last week, which is really nbd as we've had bigger declines turn out to be false hope, and positivity rate is still high (though lightly declining).

buuuuut the bigger thing is new COVID hospital admissions, which declined (admittedly, less than 1%, but still a decline) from last week to this, which hasn't happened in a while.

the wastewater still flummoxes me on Biobot, as it shows it going down in most FL counties, but sometimes they run an update a day after the initial dump on Fridays that will suddenly show an inexplicable tick back up, only to show a drop again when the update comes out the next Friday. like it seesaws. but it appears to be in a decline.

had my heart broken too many times but hoping we can finally escape this mega-long wave for like a week or two.

A double-boosted friend of mine that recently recovered from covid almost immediately came down with pneumonia afterwards. I know that can be a thing, but this is the first time it's happened to anyone I know.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 July 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link

I got pneumonia when I was a kid from a sinus infection. Pneumonia can follow pretty much any kind of virus or respiratory infection.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 July 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link

i had walking pneumonia as a kid, they told me I had a 'patch over my heart', and my literal 7 year old self thought my heart was a pirate

The cheese is completely off her cracker now.

This was to test whether bleach could sanitize poop and pee to prevent rats from getting Monkeypox. An question to which the answer is already known

https://i.ibb.co/YdqNRZC/FZB3-A5-NWYAEg-TT4.jpg

Ammonia is a highly reactive compound that in the home setting is used as a cleaning agent. It has many other uses. It is highly toxic all by itself.

Ammonia is not urea. We do not use urea (or urine) to clean things.

(again, illustration is not a product endorsement) pic.twitter.com/ihv25EzKkF

— Denise Dewald, MD 🗽 (@denise_dewald) July 31, 2022



me, dropping my spray bottle of piss that I was using to clean a mirror: wait, what?!

mh, Monday, 1 August 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link

Please tell me she isn't planning to mix bleach and ammonia to see if that works better.

DJI, Monday, 1 August 2022 23:35 (two years ago) link

Gonna try injecting myself.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2022 23:36 (two years ago) link

no, someone told her that you can’t put bleach on human waste and she went on a tweet bender explaining that urine is not ammonia

mh, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 00:03 (two years ago) link

both cases and hospitalizations 7-day average down 6% from week prior in FL.

the latter is the real metric that makes me optimistic it's not a mirage again.


I wonder why/how I haven't gotten it yet? I should say why/how/whether, I guess, there's no way to know for sure, really, but at no point have I had characteristic symptoms.

I guess I am in a weird state where I feel like I'm not trying very hard not to get it -- I'm traveling a lot, I'm seeing people, I'm in lots of crowded rooms. But then again, I wear an N95 on the plane and when I go in a store, which I feel like almost no one else is, and I certainly eat outside when it's convenient, which it usually is this time of year. So... I'm not trying very hard not to get COVID, but maybe I'm nonetheless trying harder than the median person? I guess by "not trying hard" I mean "I'm not taking any actions that would be annoying or difficult for me."

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, July 1, 2022 10:36 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still this. I've been on so many planes, trains, and busses since then, have been in so many crowded rooms where I was the only masked person.. starting to wonder whether there's just some real variation in how immune people are and I'm on the high end. It really does seem like there are people who are much more cautious than I am who are getting it (including getting it outdoors, where I've been taking zero precautions since summer 2020.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 8 August 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

There's no utility in wondering very much about it. At the level of individuals there are so many variables involved that it's anybody's guess who'll get it and who won't. You're helping yourself by masking indoors, but there's a big element of luck, too.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 8 August 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link

This is me.

xpost

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 August 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link

it's me as well. i've never taken an antibodies test, so i wouldn't be surprised to learn that i got a very mild version of it at some point

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 August 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

I test sometimes twice a week, so I've been in the clear. In the last month I've eaten inside restaurants and hung out in people's homes, the latter a riskier choice (every person I know who's caught it did so in tight enclosed spces like offices, apartments, and homes). I know I'm riding on Month Two of heightened second-booster immunity that will disappear soon.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 August 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

2 year old and 4 year old got first dose of moderna this weekend. a bit anticlimactic after all getting covid 8 weeks ago, but p nice nonetheless. we asked if we should wait (both are presumably benefiting from some 'natural' immunity for the time being, and the 4 year old eligible for the big kid's dose in 2 months), but the doctor said go ahead because it takes a few weeks to kick in, and the kids are about to get like 8 different colds when the new school year starts, so this is one less thing to worry about.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 August 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link

I did read one study that..

sidebar here, good lord am I tired of hearing about medical studies

..seemed to indicate the efficacy of a vaccine booster lasts a lot longer following actual illness

mh, Monday, 8 August 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link

yeah i think the four of us are basically immortal right now.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 August 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link


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