I also assumed that someone in a situation like Neanderthal, who has a good reason to monitor how things are going, but also (I believe) live in a state that would really like to pretend COVID never existed and definitely doesn't now, would feel the need to do some amount of independent research into the figures. Basically, if my family's health depended on it, I wouldn't trust what the state of Florida put out, and would be keeping a close eye on what I could dig up.
― colette, Friday, 26 August 2022 16:16 (two years ago) link
Stats for Tennessee look pretty wild right now, up 65% over the last two weeks with some dramatic looking spikes in some counties.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 August 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link
I saw those colors on the NYT map yesterday.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link
lol Florida back down 4% today from last week. the reason, last Friday's case total rolled out of this 7-day period, and that total was a data anomaly.
my theory is 'schools' right now.
bivalent booster going to be ready after Labor Day. i'm making an appointment as soon as they're available. woot.
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 August 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link
Stats for Tennessee look pretty wild right now
I'm sorry, you must be thinking of some other state. Nobody in Tennessee will ever have COVID or abortions again, our Legislature is very clear on that.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 27 August 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
as the lord jesus intended
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 August 2022 22:40 (two years ago) link
PSA: If you haven’t used up the free USPS at home Covid tests for your household yet, you should do so this week. “Ordering through this program will be suspended on Friday, September 2 because Congress hasn’t provided additional funding”https://t.co/dKVYxEMKdS— Dr Kathleen Bachynski (@bachyns) August 28, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 28 August 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link
ty, just ordered some
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 28 August 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link
If you're a Washington or Minnesota resident (might just be certain zip codes? I can't tell from the site), you can also order 2 free sets of 5 tests each month from https://sayyescovidhometest.org/
― Jaq, Sunday, 28 August 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link
on the omicron boosters
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02806-5
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:26 (two years ago) link
Buried lede:
Dean Follmann, a statistician at the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Bethesda, Maryland, says even the marginal benefits of a vaccine based on BA.4 and BA.5 might be enough to justify their roll-out. “It’s probably somewhat better. A lot better — probably not.” Moreover, he says the main message of the analysis should be that any COVID-19 booster is a good one.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:33 (two years ago) link
yeah, this is dumb. throwing cold water on the bivalent boosters is just going to lead to less people getting them, and the narrative about "similar protection" was based on a non-human study. yes, so was the efficacy of the booster (mice trials), which I'm aware of, so there is some degree of potential that it might not be quite what its producers hoped, but people have been pushing the 'it's no better than regular boosters' narrative since like March, but there is no actual evidence of that in a human trial.
it's not a foregone conclusion that it's going to be the silver bullet people want either, but sick of the throwing cold water shit. we need to try every weapon we have now.
anyway Walgreens has appointments already and i booked one
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link
Cases def trending downward in Florida too.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link
yep. that little blip I was worried about was temporary and they've resumed declining, as has the positivity rate. all good signs.
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link
Found this thread fairly alarming, particularly coming from a non-alarmist source. (Doubly so since I'm still recovering myself. Nice to think I'm now carrying possibly permanent higher likelihood of heart attack, stroke, etc.) I know some of this has been out there in other studies, but this seems pretty comprehensive and persuasive.
When Dr David Strain encountered a 64-year-old patient on his ward round, the British geriatrician had a bleak epiphany.Less than six months earlier he had treated the man for Covid-19. Now, the man's deterioration was painful to witness https://t.co/1t7nJwkTJb— Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) August 31, 2022
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link
correct me if i'm wrong but the key phrasing there seems to be long term impact on "acute" cases, so the question is what qualifies as acute?
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 September 2022 17:03 (two years ago) link
aiui 'acute' roughly corresponds to 'admitted to a hospital'
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 September 2022 17:14 (two years ago) link
No, the "post-acute phase" just means, "after you're no longer symptomatic." Doesn't matter how severe the illness was. That's the alarming part. This was what stood out to me:
An FT analysis of data from the UK’s NHS showed significant rises in deaths from heart disease since the start of the pandemic in all but the very oldest age groups. In the 40-64 age group, heart attack deaths increased 15% in 2021 compared with 2019.
Researchers also found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from Covid than in similar people who had not been infected.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:11 (two years ago) link
Also of course the main reason there wasn't an increase in heart attacks in the very oldest age groups is that COVID itself is so efficient at killing them that they don't get to hang around for the post-COVID heart disease.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link
See? Win-win!
How you feelin', tips?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link
On the mend, I basically had two days of medium fever (99-101) and now have had three days of steady improvement. Not a lot of energy, still clearing out sinuses etc. “Relatively mild flu” is about the vibe. My wife is on the same trajectory, just a few days behind. Hoping we’re both fairly functional by the end of the long weekend.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 3 September 2022 01:20 (two years ago) link
Great to hear tipsy.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 3 September 2022 07:07 (two years ago) link
Y'all ready for the bivalent jab? I made my appointment for next week.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 16:54 (two years ago) link
I just got mine, plus the flu shot. Hanging at Target for my 15 minutes of fame.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link
huzzah!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link
waiting for the local walgreens to cop
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link
When setting up an appointment at Walgreen's or CVS or some place like that, how does one know if the offered booster is the bivalent one, and not the same ol' formula they've been using for the last 2 years?
― henry s, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link
getting mine in october/november per CW for the recently infected https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/considerations-for-your-fall-booster
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link
xp
.@Walgreens (left) gets an A for making it clear whether you're registering for an updated bivalent COVID booster or not. @cvspharmacy (right) gets an F for not even remotely specifying and leaving you to guess. Why are we still making the easy stuff so hard!?!? pic.twitter.com/1wCtSOgIJM— Sandy Johnston 🚰 (@sandypsj) September 5, 2022
Yeah I logged off CVSs site and went to Walgreens for that reason.
Which is weird as usually it's the other way around w/ usability
― Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link
good to know— i’m going to find an appt asap!
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link
yeah, it looks pretty straightforward, which is nice
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link
I had the same question, but Walgreens answered it for me xxxpost
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link
tbf CVS is using the omicron boosters but has done a shitty job announcing it
https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/CVS-Walgreens-are-rolling-out-omicron-boosters-17416257.php
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link
The websites have been super confusing; when I looked last week, Walgreens iirc had something like a dozen options, which I guess makes sense, given some people have never had a single shot. But when I went to Target (a CVS) this morning and asked to make sure I was getting the new bivalent, she told me they (CVS) are not allowed to give the old boosters anymore now that the new/updated ones are here.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link
yeah, the EUA got yanked for the original dose unless it's your first time.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link
OK, now I've got it, two years after everybody else had it. I started feeling a bit weary on Saturday but I'd been out drinking during the day so put it down to that. Felt worse on Sunday but thought it was just a heavy cold. Felt worse again on Monday so stayed off work. Stayed off again today but was feeling a bit more energetic so was thinking of going back to work tomorrow so thought I'd better test myself - I had to borrow a test kit. Tested positive. Still feels like a nasty cold more than anything, none of the loss of taste etc.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:52 (two years ago) link
oh no! rest up Tom.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
good luck, Tom!
I’m booked for the bivalent and flu shot on Friday at Walgreens, who apparently make you wait around?I’ll rebook at the county health drive thru if they confirm it’s the new one. Last fall it was two jabs, zero wait, and then you do a fast and furious burnout and take off
― mh, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 04:37 (two years ago) link
I mean, just walk out. Who going to stop me???
― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 10:50 (two years ago) link
In my case, the pharmacist had my vaccine card, and gave it back to me after the 15 minutes were up. So I guess I could have skedaddled but at the expense of my card. I did ask her if I could spend the 15 minutes shopping, but she said they're supposed to keep us in sight.
We had some leeway at all the vaccine clinics I worked at, but I suspect there is a legal/liability basis for the 15 minutes. People that had any sort of reaction to any vaccine before were often told to wait 30 minutes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:02 (two years ago) link
what's your objection to waiting 15 minutes? take a book!
― koogs, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:02 (two years ago) link
(i heve never needed to, even though all the leaflets said i should. i even asked the first time and was shooed away)
― koogs, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link
thx for the Walgreens tip, y'all
― sleeve, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:10 (two years ago) link
Booked mine for next Monday. I was gonna go Friday but didn't wanna fuck my weekend up in case I get the soreness and jitters.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link
doing mine tomorrow. fuck it, getting out of way. mom is doing week after.
― Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link
Since I live in semi-antivax-land I was able to schedule one this morning for this afternoon (our county only has about 65% with the OG doses and even fewer for the old boosters). Silver linings I guess.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link
Got mine last night. The local CVS still had appointments available (the one in Arcadia was taking walk-ins up to 9pm)
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link
I was exposed on Monday... a friend tested positive yesterday, and while we were mostly outside, she did give me a ride home, maskless
I guess you need to wait a few days before testing, so I'm not gonna bother until Friday; just avoiding everyone
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:07 (two years ago) link
― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 22:38 (two years ago) link