Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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my team is not so bad, except when my boss says 'awesome sauce' in zoom calls

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 24 September 2022 00:13 (two years ago)

I usually sleep through the early all-staff zoom meetings, so I'm probably missing out on the newest jargon abuses

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 24 September 2022 00:15 (two years ago)

oh and everybody's a goddamn 'stakeholder' as well

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, September 23, 2022 5:09 PM (yesterday)

i often hear this / read about this in nonprofit articles and discussions on social media, and I envision a group of people wearing pastels standing in a circle holding stakes and discussing who is going to actually kill the vampire lying in the center of the circle

sarahell, Saturday, 24 September 2022 17:27 (two years ago)

also on the jargon front, things I don't feel like hearing anymore: "emotional labor" and "unicorn" (as used to congratulate oneself for one's specialness and uniqueness) -- I am at the point where I want them to recuperate "snowflake" as a positive.

sarahell, Saturday, 24 September 2022 17:30 (two years ago)

sorry, it's been a while ... PIPELINE ... except when referring to literal pipes

sarahell, Saturday, 24 September 2022 17:31 (two years ago)

when i hear the words "{X} much?" (like e.g. "jealous much?" or "triggered much?") i reach for my revolver

black ark oakensaw (doo rag), Sunday, 25 September 2022 10:15 (two years ago)

^^^^^

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 September 2022 10:36 (two years ago)

thz to some work i didn't in the end land i discovered that "creative" is now also the noun the the specific work produced by the "creative" (aka the creator and the created have fused)

also that to "conquest" is now a verb

obviously i greatly like both these developments and shd really post them in a thread that signals approval rather than raging cope them but i also have too much fun making ilx seethe… so enjoy! consider yrselves conquested

mark s, Sunday, 25 September 2022 10:49 (two years ago)

thz <--

mark s, Sunday, 25 September 2022 10:52 (two years ago)

dogfooding

Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 22:32 (two years ago)

karl you just made that up

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 October 2022 22:57 (two years ago)

i wish that i had made it up. it is an ilx first mention. it came from an internal Meta memo that expressed disappointment that their metaverse sucks so badly that even their own employees don't want to use it. "dogfooding" is the practice of using your own products or services. i guess it's something

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/6/23391895/meta-facebook-horizon-worlds-vr-social-network-too-buggy-leaked-memo

A key issue with Horizon’s development to date, according to Shah’s internal memos, is that the people building it inside Meta appear to not be using it that much. “For many of us, we don’t spend that much time in Horizon and our dogfooding dashboards show this pretty clearly,” he wrote to employees on September 15th. “Why is that? Why don’t we love the product we’ve built so much that we use it all the time? The simple truth is, if we don’t love it, how can we expect our users to love it?”

In a follow-up memo dated September 30th, Shah said that employees still weren’t using Horizon enough, writing that a plan was being made to “hold managers accountable” for having their teams use Horizon at least once a week. “Everyone in this organization should make it their mission to fall in love with Horizon Worlds. You can’t do that without using it. Get in there. Organize times to do it with your colleagues or friends, in both internal builds but also the public build so you can interact with our community.”

Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 23:09 (two years ago)

employees, your mission is to love this dogshit product, and i order you to produce better results on our dogfooding dashboards

Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 23:10 (two years ago)

Apparently, "Homecoming" is now known as "HoCo".

Look closely, that is all. (doo dah), Friday, 7 October 2022 23:26 (two years ago)

"dogfooding" is truly gross

i think steve jobs invented it? or gets credit for inventing it? though his phrase was "eat your own dogfood"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 October 2022 23:33 (two years ago)

oh oh i have one

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 October 2022 23:33 (two years ago)

"maker"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 October 2022 23:33 (two years ago)

steve jobs: "think different"
steve jobs: "eat your own dogfood"

Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 23:56 (two years ago)

yeah maker sucks

Also 'creative' is a term for people that don't actually have a specific skill - architecture, knitting, ju-jitsu - but wish they did

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 8 October 2022 00:56 (two years ago)

Does Zuck actually use Horizon outside of appearing in corny promo videos? I'd love to see his dogfooding dashboard, what kind of dogfood he regularly dines on

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 8 October 2022 00:57 (two years ago)

it's really funny to imagine top executive leadership doing their meetings in the metaverse, talking about how much they love it

Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:03 (two years ago)

talking about how much they love it because it would cost them what their job is worth to say anything else

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:09 (two years ago)

Also 'creative' is a term for people that don't actually have a specific skill - architecture, knitting, ju-jitsu - but wish they did

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, October 7, 2022 5:56 PM (two hours ago

haha wait, are you listening in to my internal monologue? ... I have made peace with "maker" (after maybe a decade of annoyance) ... at least it doesn't have the condescending and exploitative context of "creative" ... if a techdad wants to consider himself a "maker" for painting star wars models in his garage or experimenting with DIY beermaking, or idk, customizing skateboards, it is less awful than "creative" ... maybe these two will meld and there will be the new noun of "funmaker"

sarahell, Saturday, 8 October 2022 03:24 (two years ago)

maker is a bad word the exact same way teacher is a bad word tbf

abdabs at english operating as it normally does and should lol, oh no a verb was converted into a noun, we must allow literally no way for this to happen

mark s, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:05 (two years ago)

it's really funny to imagine top executive leadership doing their meetings in the metaverse, talking about how much they love it

― Karl Malone, Friday, October 7, 2022 9:03 PM (yesterday)

I first heard the term dogfooding from a Google employee who was telling me how absurdly difficult it was to book a conference room due to the reservation & access system they were dogfooding at his building

rob, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:13 (two years ago)

xp I don't think nouning a verb is the basis of objections to "maker"

rob, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:14 (two years ago)

Nouning

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:15 (two years ago)

lolling

rob, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:17 (two years ago)

the villain: let me find a straightforward way to describe and generalise activity in my own sector
this thread: we must allow literally no way for this to happen (doesn't apply to me)

mark s, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:19 (two years ago)

phraseshitting? 🤔

jmm, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:22 (two years ago)

There’s something twee about maker is perhaps the objection. Twee is perhaps not the word but you’ll get what I mean by telepathy.

Alba, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:39 (two years ago)

the villain: let me find a straightforward way to describe and generalise activity in my own sector

which hated term are you talking about here? Maker or creative or both?

sarahell, Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:50 (two years ago)

the issue i have with 'maker' and 'creative' is they describe things that literally make us human and are what we would be doing a lot more of if we didn't have to deal with 8 hours of soulcrushing, inane 'real' 'jobs' every day. but these regular human activities need a badge-of-honor catchphrase in order to be established as real, viable and allowable activities in the all-consuming ontology of capitalism.

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 8 October 2022 16:09 (two years ago)

wait till you hear abt writers

mark s, Saturday, 8 October 2022 16:15 (two years ago)

Also twee. Call them wordsmiths.

Alba, Saturday, 8 October 2022 16:26 (two years ago)

Scribblers

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 October 2022 16:29 (two years ago)

https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/joker-movie.jpg

im going to become the maker

mark s, Saturday, 8 October 2022 16:41 (two years ago)

In the US, I tend to think of "maker" as supposed opposite of "taker"---although it's been pointed out that many officially Live Free Or Die-type Red States are actually dependent on evil Feds because of so many tax cuts to the rich etc. So the term gets guilted (noun to verb!) by too-frequent association.

dow, Saturday, 8 October 2022 17:35 (two years ago)

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bridgeopedia/images/0/01/Lower_Trenton_Bridge3.jpg

mookieproof, Saturday, 8 October 2022 18:12 (two years ago)

wait till you hear abt writers

― mark s, Saturday, October 8, 2022 5:15 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

fair lol

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 8 October 2022 18:16 (two years ago)

poopsocking tbh

Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 October 2022 18:33 (two years ago)

Maker is only acceptable in reference to giant sandworms

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 8 October 2022 20:32 (two years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makar

Middle Scots makar (plural makaris) is the equivalent of Middle English maker. The word functions as a calque (literal translation) of Ancient Greek term ποιητής (poiētēs) "maker; poet".

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 October 2022 21:41 (two years ago)

Scribblers

Ink-stained wretches

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 8 October 2022 21:42 (two years ago)

“a creative” actually does mean a skilled person ime? a video editor or a copywriter or a designer usually? “maker” self-employed, a by-hand, computerless type of production. both terrible words obv

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:48 (two years ago)

Just call them all 'the talent'.

Alba, Sunday, 9 October 2022 09:40 (two years ago)

there are lots of makers in your raspberry pi / adafruit circles

koogs, Sunday, 9 October 2022 13:07 (two years ago)

in fact
https://make.co/
has existed since 2005 and is full of that stuff

koogs, Sunday, 9 October 2022 13:13 (two years ago)

"Anyhoo".

Now, to be fair, I had never heard anyone say this irl (or even imagined I would) till approximately half an hour ago when I was stood at the lifts at work. To be fair (again), anything the person that said "anyhoo" says annoys the shit out of me. What this guy constantly does is he makes "funny" remarks out loud to no-one in particular and, particularly if you're in a lift with him, you don't know whether you should respond to him or even just acknowledge he's there. As I say he does this constantly as in I've never known him not to do it. So, not for the first time, I climbed three flights of stairs rather have to travel in a lift with him for any time whatsoever. Oh and he also used to always always seem to go to the bathroom at the same time as him such that I had to try to, in some way, time my refreshment breaks not to coincide with his. And there's this other excruciatingly annoying woman at work who literally laughs at everything and my worse nightmare came true a couple of months back when I got in the lift and they were in there together! Anyway, he's kind of like this character but 10 times worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiIyYq5-czE

I know those faces Alan Partridge pulls so well.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 12:49 (two years ago)

i say 'anyhoo' a bit but it's usually always when I'm uncomfortable, like at a point of the conversation where neither of us know what to say and I don't know the other person very well.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:33 (two years ago)


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