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Am at least semi enjoying this though am aware taht whatever background is being set is pretty temporary no matter how in depth it's being set up as so intrigues between side characters probably not as important as might seem. I take it we do know the ultimate end of the story arc anyway & it ain't no frog chorus. THough possibly set up to show attitudes to loyalty and a few other things. Though he do seem a tad shady and stuff.

Trying to work out why the kids clothing on Kenari looks so manufactured when they seem to have been returned to a primitive level though not sure how long before. THought clothing would be more natural/simple not as textured or complicatedly finished. KIds look more dressed than scrabbling by having to make clothing or whatever from local materials.

Is this like a footnote to a footnote if the main character is someone whose til now main arc was inside a film that sets up some of the action in one of the original films.

Stevolende, Sunday, 25 September 2022 08:59 (two years ago)

Yes definitely - backstory to the backstory.

Interesting point about the clothes. Maybe they’re still getting by on the remains of what the mining colony left (maybe 100 years earlier? Hard to tell)

I wonder if Dudley Do-Right policeman is going to “break good” at some point

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 September 2022 09:05 (two years ago)

The situation on Kenari was relatively recent. There’s that line in the third episode about how Cassian saw his father hanged by the imperials in the town square as a kid! The implication is that the adults were killed or were absent for other reasons.

I think the bouncing between his past and the present day sets up the parallel of circumstances molding his path. He didn’t choose to leave his planet but that became his life, much as he isn’t actively trying to become a rebel agent but he’s stuck with another foster parent figure again. Orphans make the best agents, you know.

I kind of hope they follow through on that, and his diminished sense of agency, as he gets groomed as a spy and assassin

mh, Sunday, 25 September 2022 13:58 (two years ago)

(I mean, it seems incredibly likely they will with Gilroy reusing some of the backstory markers from his Bourne series screenplays)

mh, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:00 (two years ago)

And that's in place in Rogue One as well, so.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 September 2022 15:49 (two years ago)

you can tell star wars is for babies because of the crawls and the wipes

— Al Shipley (@alshipley) September 25, 2022

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 September 2022 16:27 (two years ago)

this episode was sensational. too short!

- baby banthas!
- “clem”!!!!! i love it
- incompetent sadman fascist on the skids
- light speed!
- THE TIE FIGHTERS fuuuuck
- the creeping centralisation and surveillance
- woke mothma
- the hard-science diversion for the heist a kind of switcheroo of king solomon’s mines, where it’s the locals who use the astronomical calendar to their advantage

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 22:38 (two years ago)

How do i do spoiler text?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 29 September 2022 00:16 (two years ago)

[ h ] like this [ / h ]

peace, man, Thursday, 29 September 2022 00:27 (two years ago)

i dont think those were bantha babies they just looked like goats to us and i assume they have weird alien penises. My wiiiiife also said she was amused by the star wars world retail experience

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 29 September 2022 00:32 (two years ago)

Yeah this was really sharp. Just the way this show easily introduces characters, switches scenes and modes while maintaining mood.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 September 2022 06:26 (two years ago)

lol, it's that dude from The Bear!

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 30 September 2022 22:23 (two years ago)

I keep thinking this show is called Endor and is about Ewoks.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 September 2022 22:42 (two years ago)

POSEUR!!!!!

stank viola (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 September 2022 23:26 (two years ago)

I keep thinking it’s called And/or and it’s a philosophy text

“uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Saturday, 1 October 2022 02:51 (two years ago)

Further adventures of Paul Ramone

Stevolende, Saturday, 1 October 2022 04:23 (two years ago)

The Rebellion the Next Generation
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYHSzMMX0AIqLlT?format=jpg&name=large

Stevolende, Monday, 3 October 2022 20:12 (two years ago)

getting to the end of Obi-Wan Kenobi, there's certainly some good stuff here, I like the new bad guys and Darth Vader of course, but the retcon level is so high as to make it rather aggravating

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 15:07 (two years ago)

(i've never been to england) i like how the first three eps of andor are set in some sort of blighted northern england post-industrial mining village! perhaps the next star wars series will be how the same planet gave birth to the post-modal nodes band the max rebo twelve and their label sandcrawler records?

, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:32 (two years ago)

great show if your favorite part of star wars were the scenes of imperial officers sitting around a table bitching at each other or if you were curious about the lives of all the construction workers and contractors who died on the 2nd death star

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:49 (two years ago)

Well, yes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:56 (two years ago)

xp I actually am glad after the last set of Star Wars shows that we're getting a bunch of new/different planets and ecosystems, especially after Boba Fett. (We got like, two or three newish locales on Obi-wan, but eh.) Even "new" Coruscant was fun to see.

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 22:15 (two years ago)

Perfect ratcheting-up-tension episode this week, I'd say. When it ended I felt totally wound up.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:59 (two years ago)

Ooh forgot there's a new episode today

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:09 (two years ago)

The pre-Imperial tech thing Karis was showing off was actually a barely-concealed older Polaroid!

Priory, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:46 (two years ago)

Ha I DID think "Wait is that a camera?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 October 2022 03:58 (two years ago)

Which, BTW, was prompted by seeing this earlier in the week -- turns out Diego's a major camera nut (the explanation is kinda sweet, really)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59rKS8qaKuA

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 October 2022 03:59 (two years ago)

is the name of the droid in this noir feelings star wars show actually B2EMO? because that's awesome.

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 October 2022 15:00 (two years ago)

enjoyed the new episode - it definitely heightened my anticipation for “the job”

love the classic heist/bank job story beats ie new-guy suspicion, last-minute revelations that undermine cohesion, newly-sown suspicion towards leader, etc etc etc

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 October 2022 17:12 (two years ago)

blue food watch: space cereal with blue milk

Roz, Friday, 7 October 2022 00:25 (two years ago)

the uptight police guy’s mom is a whole mood, i kind of love her and their vibe

also uptight police guy reminds me of the Jude Law android from AI, it might just be his hair

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 October 2022 00:32 (two years ago)

i thought the same thing

yes his mom is great. strangely for such a diverse and motley set of beings she’s one of the few real “characters” in this show

i was psyched for the heist but now i’m very much enjoying the slow burn. “clem” a bit jumpy, not just a strong dude for us to identify with but a dude with problems. “we all have our own rebellion” - loved that.

will our double agent’s moment of sentimentality - allowing the men to watch the cosmic happening - come back to bite them? i don’t know but i loved that we got to see that little grin

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 October 2022 08:23 (two years ago)

maybe didn't follow the plot but felt like that smile was showing that he played them, got them to think he was giving them what they wanted when really he cleared them out to not be paying attention during the heist or something?

I'm enjoying Ebon Moss Bachrach. I HATED him on Girls, where he played a truly odious character. Then when he showed up in the Bear I was like ugh this guy again, but then I was like well he's playing an asshole, do I hate the actor or just his characters? Then by the end of the Bear I was like, aw I like this guy, and now here he is again! And he's enjoyable. ANd I can erase his Girls character from my memory.

dan selzer, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:05 (two years ago)

I've had almost the same opinions as you regarding that actor; they did too good a job making him an asshole on Girls and it's taken a few years to rectify. He was also in one season of Damages

Vinnie, Saturday, 8 October 2022 00:58 (two years ago)

same, his character was so convincingly awful in Girls i thought maybe i hated his face lol but i dig him so mich in Bear & Andor

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 October 2022 03:16 (two years ago)

So difficult to tell whether Dunham liked or loathed her characters, and I guess that had consequences for the performers too - were we watching a charming actor uncharmingly playing an asshole, or an uncharming performance of a character we were supposed to like? Hard to tell from week to week

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 8 October 2022 10:54 (two years ago)

dan otm

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 8 October 2022 11:14 (two years ago)

Ok. Wow. That was some Star War telly.
Tense.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:43 (two years ago)

lol they kinda delivered on the hype for The Eye thing damn

nashwan, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 21:18 (two years ago)

wow. episode delivered. only marred by young trotsky nerd’s hopelessly tendentious acting.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:21 (two years ago)

lol they kinda delivered on the hype for The Eye thing damn

ha yeah i was disappointed we hadn't gotten to the heist at the end of the last episode, but the wait was worth it!

Between this and The Bear, Ebon Moss-Bachrach has been in the two most stressful episodes of TV I've watched all year

Roz, Thursday, 13 October 2022 03:38 (two years ago)

ok if we get a three episode cadence, every third is action-heavy, and each builds on the last, that twelfth one better deliver

mh, Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:29 (two years ago)

THE GREENIE GREEN ONES

THE GREENIE REVNOG

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 21:55 (two years ago)

this show keeps impressing me tbh

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 21:59 (two years ago)

so "shave and a haircut" exists in the star wars universe?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 20 October 2022 18:25 (two years ago)

It does now!

Fantastic last couple of episodes here. And yes it's pretty clear we're on a three episode arc each time, which I have no problem with. (Appreciate the ISB office politics mania of course. Also didn't realize the dude there with the one speech about imposing measures etc is the latest iteration of this character, who might be the classic retcon.)

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wullf_Yularen

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 October 2022 18:29 (two years ago)

looking forward to episode 9 being the star wars version of the great escape

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 20 October 2022 18:45 (two years ago)

nerdy sidebar - i love the room interiors for a lot of their homes & meeting rooms, like the architectural details in mon mothma’s mansion or the interesting brick interiors of andor’s home or that 70’s looking pad of his girlfriend/not-girlfriend, and uptight-guy’s mom’s modular pod-apartment

i can’t say why exactly but it gives me a bit of a “bladerunner” echo.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 October 2022 18:48 (two years ago)

I'd reallt still like a series dedicated to Jawas especially a Jedi Jawa

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 18:52 (two years ago)

veg, you're the third person to make the bladerunner connect here. I should be watching Andor I think.

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 October 2022 20:17 (two years ago)


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