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It’s ofc very cool as a survivor of dv to see a show w/coercive control as a major theme & plot point with female show runners and leads so airily dismissed based on vibes…but what did I expect posting about something I like on ilx?

(though i tend to skip the fallacious cetacean taxonomic stuff)

forks always breaking new ground in being wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetology_of_Moby-Dick

By the current taxonomy of Cetacea, the classification in Moby-Dick is inaccurate and incomplete as well, presenting only a fraction of the nearly ninety species of Cetaceans known today. In the case of some species, in particular the blue whale (which Ishmael calls the "sulphur-bottom whale"), very little was known at the time. The classification is thus heavily weighted toward whales hunted for oil and other uses, and presents a picture of the common knowledge of whales at the time of the novel. Since Melville presents the study within a fictional context, voiced by a fictional character in the narrative, it is arguable whether or not Melville intended the classification as a serious scientific contribution. One view is that Melville "roundly ridicules his own attempts at a scientific account of the whale" and "ridicules those who attempt to understand reality with the measuring."[4] Near the end of the chapter, Melville, alluding to Shakespeare's tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow speech, characterizes a list of whale names as "mere sounds, full of Leviathanism, but signifying nothing."

yes my point is who gives a shit, those chapters are bangers

Brad otm

"reading moby-dick to learn more facts about whales, i'm approaching the text correctly"

i assume you also liked the moment in s2 of the wire where they had a two episode digression about the history of paving stones

if such a thing existed yeah i’d be fucking down. the monumental amount of context that moby-dick constructs for itself is pretty much the fucking thing about the book that is good and innovative and makes it continually relevant to the tradition of storytelling

honestly all this nonsense would be avoided if you idiots would just just ~create a dedicated thread for this godforsaken show~

VG otm, you can use this one: whale wars

xp thanks VG, always good to know the people being trolled are the problem. It’s the last episode btw and there won’t be any more.

… although I might be back a week on Monday.

xp if you're calling Melville's rambling whale guts "the fucking thing" that makes Moby Dick evergreen to a modern audience, that's a hard disagree. the malleable metaphysical conceits, exploration of male fellowship, the contemporary clarity and vivacity of the descriptive language wins out for me over wading through 60 pages of disproven marine science. but, as noted, strength of structure and narrative is a priority to the way i consume stories so we may be measuring this thing from different starting points.

yes i'm saying that's why it's innovative and worthwhile as a modernist text. skipping it is missing the point. the gay stuff is good too, we love that

“strength of structure and narrative” is so important to the way you “consume” stories that you watch the first 15 mins and then the last episode lol

i am impressed you acted in two different adaptations of moby dick though forks, that’s quite something. trust me when i say that i promise i would not write a review of those productions having not actually seen them, and then continue talking about it for ages to people who not only saw it but enthusiastically loved it. that would just be… dickheaded?

I like turtles.

Trace, I would not only be cool with you blindly reviewing either one of of my two (2) theatrical adaptations of Moby Dick, I am actively encouraging it! But we should take this to another thread, so:
Thar She Blows! A Thread to Blindly Review Either of the Two (2) Theatrical Adaptations of Moby Dick that Forks Was In

at least this convo resulted in one new thread no one will reply to

rmde

Let’s get back to not watching tv shows

thought the bad sisters finale was pretty good!

i mean it’s not quite the cetalogy chapter of moby dick but it prob beat the hell out of “the whiteness of the whale”

Selena Gomez has gotten much less wooden halfway into season 1.

her flatness is part of the charm esp playing off martin & short

Yes, good call

Watched the first three episodes of The Lesbian Bar Project streaming here and on Roku.

Each episode focuses on the founder/proprietor of one of the 24 remaining lesbian bars in the U.S. Has some of the editing/music tropes of any reality documentary, but it also captures a sense of each city where these bars are and the people who opened and run them. Some gratuitous Jagermeister placements, but that’s better than interrupting it halfway through with a one-minute ad.

good find, i like delaria a lot!

what the fuck is a Philo

VG, I watched peacemaker on a plane bc of your rec in this thread. Superhero/marvel etc isn’t really my thing normally but this was funnier than I expected?? Also would smash john cena.

:D :D

yay! i think the thing i love most is that it’s deeply stupid and sincere. gunn is pretty good at that vibe. and yeah it uses cena’s beefcake to excellent effect

you’re wrong about the end of bad sisters forksclovetofu btw

Thanks for letting me know!

Celine Sciamma’s Petit Maman is now on Hulu. Watching it again makes me wonder if I have some sort of face blindness, because in so many scenes the two girls look alike. Anyway, it is a really fine, magical film about an 8 year old girl trying to understand her mother and comfort her in a moment of grief

All five of Sciamma’s films so far have been memorable

I think the two little girls are real-life sisters? To say more would be to verge on the spoiler-y, but yeah, good film. My favorite of Sciamma’s that I’ve seen to date.

Finally saw the final "Bad Sisters." It was a fine conclusion, but it really disappointed me that even at the end it couldn't resist piling on more cruelty and humiliation.

"Peacemaker" ruled.

Each episode focuses on the founder/proprietor of one of the 24 remaining lesbian bars in the U.S.

This seems insanely low! Does the show go into reasons?

Gay bars are closing all over the city and lesbian bars in particular are really hard to find. The only one I can think of in Manhattan is Henrietta.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/nyregion/nyc-gay-bars-pride.html
https://henriettahudson.com/

did cubbyhole close?

i thought that was a gay bar that was lesbian friendly as opposed to lesbian primary? i may be wrong!

but no, cubbyhole is still open last time i was in the neighborhood.

Started Devs, it’s walking a fine line between fascinating and wtf silly.

Nice to see Nick Offerman doing something a tiny bit different. He was the worst part of The Resort.

I liked Devs. Story is a bit bonkers. Cinematography is gorgeous. And they make A+ use of Low's "Congregation."

The only one I can think of in Manhattan is Henrietta.

This one gets covered in the show’s third episode, covers its evolution from what a lesbian bar would mean in the 90s to a broader range of people present-day.

Smithsonian did this long story last year on “the rise and fall.” Based on the screening of this show that I went to at a newly-open Chicago lesbian bar, and the demand there is here for a queer space leaning more toward women, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a “rise again.”

Likely unnecessary season 2 of the Vow is starting on HBOMax, focusing this time on the trial. they also got people still loyal to NXIVM/KR to sit down for interviews. So if you have not had enough of this story after the other seven hundred docuseries, here's another one.

One thing I liked about Devs is there was no Season 2 and there wasn't one intended.

So my thoughts on Bad Sisters: I do agree with some of these complaints. though they are hardly enough to keep me from recommending the show which is generally excellent. JP and Grace are themselves the main problem, or the portrayals of them, which are often too broad and more like caricature than believable real characters. He is soooo snivelingly evil, she is such a drip... I have no doubts that Claes Bang and Anne-Marie Duff are good actors, but at times their work seems to be more comedic than the content calls for. I'm thinking of her incessant gormless smiles and darting looks, and his, well, everything. I guess this is partly a direction choice as well. TBF BonoDaughter also over did it a bit, but she looks so much like someone I used to know who also had similar annoying quirks that I just now associate with people that age... I believe her, though I find her irritating at times. Sharon Horgan and Sarah Greene do seem to be just better in embodying their characters as believable humans. Having said that, this show stuck the landing, plotwise, and some of these characters annoying quirks were forgiven by me by the end. Also I just love Dublin after having spent time there this summer so it was nice to see bits of it.

I thought the bed-rest pregnant wife of the insurance bro was a really good character too, wish there'd been a bit more of her. I liked her investigatory skills and her comment that 'this is what happens when you don't pay the broadband bill'.

I'm similarly conflicted, because I'd also ultimately recommend the show, too, but tbh it did leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. The happy ending (as such) really skips right past the fact that JP did pretty much successfully destroy their lives, and in fact in a couple of cases the sisters (esp. Becka) are actually even worse off for their desperate schemes than they were before, making his demise something of a Pyrrhic victory and in turn the show's conclusion more tragic than cathartic. Did make me want to visit Dublin, though!

my postscript to this saga is that i downloaded the 10th episode and popped it into plex... where my mother promptly watched it, thinking it was a movie. When I told her it was a series and she missed the first 9 episodes, she asked for the rest to watch backward, which is what she's doing now.
Personally, i've started Ideal and am enjoying a very young Olivia Colman as a comedy love interest.