Is this anti-semitism?

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I always get a little thrown when I see ads for 88 Rising, which is an Asian-owned music company.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

Eights are very good luck in ESEA cultures.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

There's a lot going on with this van from Christchurch. I used to see it around sometimes, I vaguely recognised some of the messages such as the 88 but at the time had no idea about the 14 or the black sun logo. I believe the word beneficial also has some meaning but I can't remember right now.

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The racist POS behind this was jailed for a few months for sharing videos of the mosque shootings.

nate woolls, Saturday, 15 October 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/rJwgUXJ.jpeg

nate woolls, Saturday, 15 October 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

Wtf

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

We also know Henry Ford was an anti-semite, but this has some details about the extent of it that I didn't know: https://johnganz.substack.com/p/henry-fords-empire-of-lies

Ohio Senate candidate Michele Reynolds used the phrase "Jew you down" in a book she wrote and said Jews have a reputation for "not wasting resources."

In a statement, her campaign said the statement came out of respect for Jews' reputation for "solid money principles." pic.twitter.com/SL4tGjv8Bb

— Jake Zuckerman (@jake_zuckerman) October 20, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The gentiles are trying to sell us Hanukkah gnomes now, so I decided to look into the history of gnomes to see if it's antisemitic....and OF COURSE it is, so here's a thread about why you should not buy these for your Jewish friends: 1/? pic.twitter.com/qQDfezmHrJ

— Sim Kern (@sim_kern) December 12, 2022

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

bleah

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

I understand the exploration of their origins - it makes a lot of sense - but I'm not going to stop enjoying David the Gnome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsdZQub7QVE

In fact, looking at the credits for the first time in a while, it was two Jewish brothers who brought this show to America!

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

peace, man, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

I still think about not being prepared to see the hannukah version of elf on a shelf in a display at Target and giggling

mensch on a bench!!

mh, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Chicago police are urging Jewish and other religious communities to be extra vigilant this weekend when a neo-Nazi group has declared a “day of hate.”

“At this time, there is no actionable intelligence,” the department said in a statement. “We continue to actively monitor the situation.”

Last month, a small anti-Semitic group based in eastern Iowa designated Feb. 25 as a “day of hate,” and other white supremacist and hate groups have since said they plan to participate, according to David Goldenberg, the Midwest regional director of the Anti-Defamation League.

“Our network of analysts at ADL centered around extremism are carefully monitoring online platforms, chat rooms and a whole bunch of other things, and we’ll alert appropriate authorities if we see anything that we think needs to be elevated,” Goldenberg said.

Chicago police said in a statement that it is “in contact with members, leaders and organizations within the Jewish community and all faith-based communities in Chicago, and will continue working closely with them to strengthen communication and safety.”

Ald. Debra Silverstein (50th), whose ward covers a large portion of the city’s Jewish community on the North Side, said the police “will be paying special attention to all synagogues and Jewish institutions.”

“Families across our community should feel reassured that they are protected from those that wish us harm,” she said in a statement to the Sun-Times.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 February 2023 02:35 (one year ago) link

this just happened at the high school I graduated from 30 years ago ('just'...apparently he's been doing this for a few years? and he did finally get put on leave this week):

https://jweekly.com/2023/02/21/east-bay-high-school-teacher-called-out-for-antisemitic-lessons/

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 24 February 2023 02:49 (one year ago) link

yeesh

symsymsym, Friday, 24 February 2023 02:56 (one year ago) link

kind of mind boggling that this went on for a few years and other teachers just 'found out' about it. it's not that big of a school (or wasn't when I went there). guy seems to have some other extracurricular weirdness (in essence, seems to be into the hotep stuff). district should be ashamed of themselves.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 24 February 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

it's crazy this teacher got away with teaching that antisemitic Nazi garbage for so long without anyone calling him out.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 February 2023 03:39 (one year ago) link

sounds like people tried to take steps for months, without success. the ADL got involved, had meetings canceled on them. and the teacher is still teaching.

z_tbd, Friday, 24 February 2023 03:47 (one year ago) link

teacher got put on leave today, there was another story in the chronicle.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 24 February 2023 03:55 (one year ago) link

my main takeaway is: good on the kids at the school this year for really bringing this to light and rejecting it.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 24 February 2023 03:55 (one year ago) link

Insane how long the school admin was asking themselves the question posed in the thread title

omar little, Friday, 24 February 2023 03:56 (one year ago) link

My wife had a a high school English teacher in Northern Virginia that would tell her, with some polite concern, that she was going to hell for being Jewish.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 February 2023 11:32 (one year ago) link

One of my Jewish high school friends moved to Dallas for her senior year of high school, where none of her new classmates had ever met a Jewish person before, but used certain phrases she found very antisemitic all the damn time.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 February 2023 12:11 (one year ago) link

I had pennies thrown at me in high school in the late 80s (not really Jewish but it's a long story).

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Friday, 24 February 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link

That’s awful, but I get it: the arch-rival school to mine was in a WASPy town where real estate was traditionally covenanted to forbid Black or Jewish buyers moving there. My town was the Jewish suburb, and ice hockey games with the WASPy school inevitably featured some arsehole chucking bagels on the ice. After any kind of game with that school, their fans would drop $10 bills, beating up the kids who picked up the money (and saying disgusting antisemitic things).

Texas, according to the friend who left for Dallas, was even worse.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 February 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

(Santa Rosa County Commissioner Sam) Parker replied: "The fact that I walked in and said 'Hey, I'm going to have to Jew it down' is not an ethnic slur. This has nothing to do—I'm not referring to the Jewish community. I used that term as an adjective, as a descriptive word of bargaining them down…That is not an ethnic slur."

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C&mibextid=1YhcI9R&v=500510682289332

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 March 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link

Silly Parker, you have to say "It's not an ethnic slur" THREE times to make it not an ethnic slur

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

Why is it so hard for people to say "Whoa, shit, I've been saying that all my life and I never really thought about it"?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

A phrase I've never heard anyone utter in my life but then it seems to be an "American thing"?

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

it's not particularly common in the US either, as far as I know, can't think of ever hearing it either

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link

You're lucky. Heard it all the time in high school (US).

awaiting the ILX acquihire (PBKR), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link

Ugh.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

I've had it said to me directly by someone who knew that my father is Jewish.

Bruce Hornsby–Big Stick 3:15 (Eliza D.), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

The above friend who moved to Dallas for her senior year did have to call out new classmates who used that phrase.

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

I would say (US, Jewish) I've never actually heard it used but I know it's a thing.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

I think mh punched someone for saying it iirc

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link

I would like to call time on non-jews saying I remind them of Woody Allen, as a school colleague did last weekend

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

Yikes

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

I had a “friend” here in LA say that about her experience with an appliance repair, in a group w my wife, whose dad survived the Holocaust. I think I went into one of those trances you see in movies, all the sound dropping out and a loud ringing sound in my ears.

omar little, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

people who have had experience with this, would you say it is straight up malicious or more semi-innocent ignorance?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

I have a hard time understanding how someone could not know how using "Jew" as a verb is offensive. the Woody Allen thing, while o_O as fuck, I could see more being ignorance.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link

Well w that one she mildly apologized, saying something along the lines of “well you can take the girl out of the south but…”

it was crazy though because in my entire life I’d so rarely heard it.

omar little, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

I've never *heard* it said out loud, but seen it online a lot over the years. and one of my good friends said her mother used to say it and she'd tell her to stfu.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

See also: gypped (which decades ago I did not know was an offensive term)

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

Yea same

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

Gypped is one where a lot of people who use it don't know where it comes from or why it is offensive. I find it harder to believe that the same is true with jewed but who knows.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

I feel like it's only relatively recently that "gypsy" has been phased out as a commonly used term. "Jew" as a verb has never been commonly used the same way.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

It’s also comparatively easy to reach adulthood in the US believing that “gypsy” is, like, a job, possibly an extinct or even fictional one, and not a derogatory term for an oppressed ethnic and cultural minority. Compared to thinking that “Jew” is not referring to and derogating actually existing people.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

re: Gypsy, many Romani-Americans still identify with that word, so it's not necessarily "phased out".

peace, man, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

Embarrassingly, I always pictured the word being spelled "jipped" and had no idea what it meant. Lesson taken and that I tell my kid is if you don't know what it means don't say it.

beard papa, Friday, 10 March 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link

I think I used "welch" (as in "he totally welched on the deal") well into adulthood without knowing its source

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 March 2023 01:14 (one year ago) link


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