Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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deep deep dive
So-socialize

people who misuse "longue durée" as a fancy way of saying "long term" can gtfo

"deep dive"

what term would you use instead?

thought experiment
evidence-based investigation
snorkeling without a snorkel
(that it could mean any one is problematic?)

"something more than the superficial lip service i usually engage in"

snappy AND inviting

Deep-throat service.

In-depth exploration?

personally i've got no issue with deep dive? what's the problem?
sure you can say "in-depth exploration" but why bother when you can say "deep dive"?!

adults that refer to a group of peers as "kids" as a form of infantilizing comradery

I think these phrases are mostly scapegoats for do-nothing co-workers and managers who say things instead of do them, like phatic shirking

lol i read that as phatic shrieking, which also seems accurate. i love the verb shriek.

i have a coworker who says students need to learn to "task initiate". in meetings he talks about how we can help them "task initiate". he uses it out loud with students. "ok guys, you need to start thinking about how to task initiate today". these are seventh graders, so thinking about how to get started when a teacher gives you a task is a good skill, but the way he says "task initiate" drives me nuts. i think maybe it's the combination of new-fangled jargon for old concept (in my day we called it "getting started", and we walked uphill in the snow both on the way to school and the way back) combined with total disregard for english grammar

sure you can say "in-depth exploration" but why bother when you can say "deep dive"?!

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, November 28, 2022 7:44 AM (six days ago)

thank you for making me think about why this phrase annoys me ... because it does ... and I think these are the reasons why:
1. its trendiness / use by people/writers who are annoying in other ways as well
2. what follows is often not very deep tbh ... they might discuss something for a longer duration (e.g. more time, more words) than a summary, but it doesn't really go very deep. Like duration does not equal depth

the "conversation" "around" pretty much anything

join it!

brb just going to break down a silo or two

https://myfox8.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2018/04/silo.jpg?w=1280

you clearly know how to task initiate, Tracer!

the "conversation" "around" pretty much anything

I think this "speaks" "to" the wider cultural conversation around pretty much anything.

what we talk about when we talk about words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of us

'cope' and 'cry more'

"flop" instead of "dive"

deep flop

think the annoyance with "deep dive" is like when writers call a song a "deep cut" just because it wasn't a single, which is really fucking annoying, it's true.

not a word or phrase but i've finally found the name for a thing that bugs the shit out of me, partic on social media and that word is:

APORIA

as in:
"not sure why everyone's making such a big deal about the fact that i simply didn't like a movie"

YES YOU ARE actually, you know exactly why

my favorite response to shit like this btw is something along the lines of "huh really? i always thought you were pretty plugged in!"

i don't know, i have to admit that i don't see why that bugs you so much. if i had to guess i'd say you're spending too much time on social media, or perhaps you're reading too deeply into it?

it_is_a_mystery

aporia is a sweet important word in post-structuralism and i support its extension or i would but i can't put my finger on why not

yeah it’s messy because people like derrida used it not in that faux-ignorant sense but in the sense of a genuine impasse in the logic of thought - maybe there is a better word

i was making a bad joek and you're not wrong

it's the not that unravels somebody's whole shtick is as good a way of using it as any

and i typoed "knot" and even that is perfect

hella derridean

EXACKLY

and i typoed "knot" and even that is perfect

― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Friday, December 16, 2022 10:08 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

hella derridean

― Tracer Hand, Friday, December 16, 2022 10:35 AM (nine hours ago)

<3 <3 <3 i love ilx

virtue-signaling (the first time I heard it; not sure it is in common usage, but given the speaker, who does not have the courage to say anything original, it is assumed)

Probably been mentioned before: "do" in place of "get" or "have" or "accept" or who knows what else. Someone's ordering a dozen donuts: "I'll do three chocolate, three honey glazed..." One of the other moderators in a Facebook group I'm in: "Sorry, we don't do posts from out of town." Just hate it.

100% agree, idk why but i die a little bit inside every time i go to the coffee shop, seems like that's just the way people order drinks now

actually i think i do know what bothers me about it, at least w/r/t ordering food, and it's that it somehow makes it sound like the customer is passively acquiescing to their order. like the barista is just dying to make you a drink, so you suppose you'll accept a latte or whatever.

this is obviously an illogical notion on two counts. first because "to do" is an active verb, and second because selling you a drink is exactly what the people operating a coffee shop want to be doing! and yet ... maybe it's that you're not "doing" anything but forking over money?

I work at a restaurant and people use this construction all the time. It doesn’t bother me at all. They do the steak, the chicken, the salmon, the lamb pizza, they’ll do anything on the menu. Maybe it’s a reaction to “I’ll have what she’s having” ? Idk.

"I will kill and butcher the cow myself."

Maybe it’s a reaction to “I’ll have what she’s having”?

Billy Crystal: "I'll do what she's doing."

(Actually, it's another woman in the restaurant--messed up my joke.)

Similar to the Australian construction of "go" as in "I'll go a pie with a Carlton Draught"

A lot of times words have little semantic value in a given exchange and context is doing most of the work. When you're ordering food, any of the basic verbs will do... do, have, make, get, go, be, etc. The server knows you're asking for menu items and that's all that really matters. Try it. I'm doing a burger, I'm having a burger, Make mine a burger, Get me a burger, I'm going with a burger, It'll be a burger for me, or simply "a burger" with no verb at all. No need to lean too hard on the print paradigm and waste effort trying to make every utterance function context-free. Notice nobody fucks around too much with tense, negation, or pronouns... that would actually be confusing in context. That we can do this is pretty amazing when you think about it!

capt save a do

"Burger me do"

Hit me with the burgness and drag it through a garden.

Drinkswise? Beer me.