what we talk about when we talk about words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of us
― sarahell, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 03:50 (two years ago)
'cope' and 'cry more'
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:11 (two years ago)
"flop" instead of "dive"
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 10 December 2022 17:07 (two years ago)
deep flop
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 10 December 2022 17:10 (two years ago)
think the annoyance with "deep dive" is like when writers call a song a "deep cut" just because it wasn't a single, which is really fucking annoying, it's true.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 10 December 2022 17:15 (two years ago)
not a word or phrase but i've finally found the name for a thing that bugs the shit out of me, partic on social media and that word is:
APORIA
as in:"not sure why everyone's making such a big deal about the fact that i simply didn't like a movie"
YES YOU ARE actually, you know exactly why
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 11:14 (two years ago)
my favorite response to shit like this btw is something along the lines of "huh really? i always thought you were pretty plugged in!"
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 11:15 (two years ago)
i don't know, i have to admit that i don't see why that bugs you so much. if i had to guess i'd say you're spending too much time on social media, or perhaps you're reading too deeply into it?
― budo jeru, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:21 (two years ago)
it_is_a_mystery
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:58 (two years ago)
aporia is a sweet important word in post-structuralism and i support its extension or i would but i can't put my finger on why not
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:01 (two years ago)
yeah it’s messy because people like derrida used it not in that faux-ignorant sense but in the sense of a genuine impasse in the logic of thought - maybe there is a better word
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:04 (two years ago)
i was making a bad joek and you're not wrong
it's the not that unravels somebody's whole shtick is as good a way of using it as any
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:07 (two years ago)
and i typoed "knot" and even that is perfect
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:08 (two years ago)
hella derridean
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:35 (two years ago)
EXACKLY
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:38 (two years ago)
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Friday, December 16, 2022 10:08 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tracer Hand, Friday, December 16, 2022 10:35 AM (nine hours ago)
<3 <3 <3 i love ilx
― sarahell, Saturday, 17 December 2022 03:37 (two years ago)
virtue-signaling (the first time I heard it; not sure it is in common usage, but given the speaker, who does not have the courage to say anything original, it is assumed)
― youn, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:18 (two years ago)
Probably been mentioned before: "do" in place of "get" or "have" or "accept" or who knows what else. Someone's ordering a dozen donuts: "I'll do three chocolate, three honey glazed..." One of the other moderators in a Facebook group I'm in: "Sorry, we don't do posts from out of town." Just hate it.
― clemenza, Thursday, 29 December 2022 19:49 (two years ago)
100% agree, idk why but i die a little bit inside every time i go to the coffee shop, seems like that's just the way people order drinks now
― the late great, Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:08 (two years ago)
actually i think i do know what bothers me about it, at least w/r/t ordering food, and it's that it somehow makes it sound like the customer is passively acquiescing to their order. like the barista is just dying to make you a drink, so you suppose you'll accept a latte or whatever.
this is obviously an illogical notion on two counts. first because "to do" is an active verb, and second because selling you a drink is exactly what the people operating a coffee shop want to be doing! and yet ... maybe it's that you're not "doing" anything but forking over money?
― the late great, Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:17 (two years ago)
I work at a restaurant and people use this construction all the time. It doesn’t bother me at all. They do the steak, the chicken, the salmon, the lamb pizza, they’ll do anything on the menu. Maybe it’s a reaction to “I’ll have what she’s having” ? Idk.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:21 (two years ago)
"I will kill and butcher the cow myself."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:27 (two years ago)
Maybe it’s a reaction to “I’ll have what she’s having”?
Billy Crystal: "I'll do what she's doing."
― clemenza, Friday, 30 December 2022 01:31 (two years ago)
(Actually, it's another woman in the restaurant--messed up my joke.)
― clemenza, Friday, 30 December 2022 01:32 (two years ago)
Similar to the Australian construction of "go" as in "I'll go a pie with a Carlton Draught"
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 30 December 2022 05:39 (two years ago)
A lot of times words have little semantic value in a given exchange and context is doing most of the work. When you're ordering food, any of the basic verbs will do... do, have, make, get, go, be, etc. The server knows you're asking for menu items and that's all that really matters. Try it. I'm doing a burger, I'm having a burger, Make mine a burger, Get me a burger, I'm going with a burger, It'll be a burger for me, or simply "a burger" with no verb at all. No need to lean too hard on the print paradigm and waste effort trying to make every utterance function context-free. Notice nobody fucks around too much with tense, negation, or pronouns... that would actually be confusing in context. That we can do this is pretty amazing when you think about it!
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 30 December 2022 06:49 (two years ago)
capt save a do
― the late great, Friday, 30 December 2022 07:49 (two years ago)
"Burger me do"
― nashwan, Friday, 30 December 2022 10:45 (two years ago)
Hit me with the burgness and drag it through a garden.
Drinkswise? Beer me.
― Immodest Moose (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 December 2022 12:43 (two years ago)
Server: Say no more fam
https://www.burgerme.de/standorte/kiel/rather unfortunate
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Friday, 30 December 2022 13:02 (two years ago)
Not sure I've heard this! In the Facebook example, does "we don't do posts from out of town" mean "no one from out of town posts to this group" then?
― Alba, Friday, 30 December 2022 13:03 (two years ago)
“I/we don’t do” seems like a separate usage from the other example & v well established? We don’t do requests, I don’t do mornings, I don’t do drama, we don’t do average — I’m surprised you haven’t encountered this, it’s been around forever. The food ordering thing feels newer def (both are fine)
― pilk/pall revolting odors (wins), Friday, 30 December 2022 13:13 (two years ago)
Oh, I've heard it in those contexts, for sure, but the Facebook one doesn't really fit with that, I don't thin,.
― Alba, Friday, 30 December 2022 13:27 (two years ago)
Sounds a bit of a rum do.
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 December 2022 13:34 (two years ago)
For me, "accept" would be the normal thing to say: "We don't accept out-of-town posts."
I realize that "do" gets the point across in all these contexts; language is for communicating, and complaining that you're annoyed by certain words that accomplish that just as well as the words you want is fundamentally irrational. To me, that's an inherent feature of this thread. But it's also a reality, and certain words and phrases do make me wince.
― clemenza, Friday, 30 December 2022 13:56 (two years ago)
("Accept," by the way, because said posts are waiting in a queue to be approved by a moderator. If it is, we all gather around and chant "Gabba, Gabba, we accept this, post away.")
― clemenza, Friday, 30 December 2022 13:59 (two years ago)
I think "Let's do lunch" became a thing in the '80s?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 December 2022 14:09 (two years ago)
I think De Do Do Do was also a thing then
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 December 2022 14:13 (two years ago)
the muppets do manhattan
― (the Beeb is slang for the BBC) (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 December 2022 15:42 (two years ago)
“Do” usually seems to me to be the person saying that the activity in question is beneath them and really only engaged in by disgusting savages and their ilk.
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 December 2022 15:50 (two years ago)
https://bcdbimages.s3.amazonaws.com/warner/ltmm/dough_dodo.jpg
― pilk/pall revolting odors (wins), Friday, 30 December 2022 15:51 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOP_cPX7JDw
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 December 2022 15:58 (two years ago)
("Accept," by the way, because said posts are waiting in a queue to be approved by a moderator
Ah, the premoderation thing makes the whole thing make more sense to me. But yeah, clumsy I agree.
― Alba, Friday, 30 December 2022 16:20 (two years ago)
I don't really do Dallas
The usual food-ordering phrase around me (NJ) is "lemme get." Lemme get two bacon cheeseburgers, large fries, large Coke.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 30 December 2022 16:22 (two years ago)
xp it's okay, Debbie does
― sarahell, Friday, 30 December 2022 17:57 (two years ago)
it also annoys me a bit tbh ... but I think the reason why it bothers me is that it construes the act of having a coffee or food as some "experience" that implies a greater amount of activity and initiative than, paying for someone to make you food, at a place that does such a thing, where you have already chosen to eat there, and you are given a menu of options, and your agency consists of selecting items off the menu, and then eating the food. Like, compare it to other things people "do" that are more active and/or require more agency/initiative: "we're going to do karaoke!" or "We're going to do the El Capitan hike!" or "we're going to do the parenting thing!"
― sarahell, Friday, 30 December 2022 18:05 (two years ago)
'i did a thing'
― mookieproof, Friday, 30 December 2022 18:13 (two years ago)
lol
― sarahell, Friday, 30 December 2022 18:30 (two years ago)