outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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and yes, this was at Walgreens. Actually got my previous booster AT Target, and that went great.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

they owe you some Walbucks

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Free federal COVID tests coming back starting tomorrow

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/14/free-covid-home-test-program-restart-00073962

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 December 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

cool, hope they don’t mail me already expired tests this time— half that i received were expired and not on the ‘extended expiration’ list.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 December 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

I saw my first tv ad for an otc COVID test!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2022 02:37 (one year ago) link

xp they're almost certainly not expired. IIUC the boxes were printed with the expiration of the emergency authorization, not the physical expiration of the test. that keeps getting extended.

see https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/home-otc-covid-19-diagnostic-tests#list to confirm.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

"that keeps getting extended", meaning the authorization keeps getting extended.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

Whoa, thanks for that caek, we were just about to toss out a few of our free fed tests that we had thought were expired! Def timely for that info in our house.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

a bunch of ours were not on that list, so we threw them away. thanks

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

Wellllll ... looks like we hosted a superspreader event. We had a 40th birthday party for my wife last Saturday. Our COVID numbers here have been rising a bit but still relatively low, and we figured you only turn 40 once. Probably 50ish people were there over the course of the evening. And we now know of six of them who have since tested positive. We feel bad about it but also obviously this was a known risk for everyone going in. Everybody vaxxed and probably boosted, so far people seem to be having fairly "normal" cases.

An interesting data point that may or may not mean anything, and of course could change if we hear from more people: All six of the positive cases we know of are people who had never had it before. My wife and I had it in September, and so far neither of us has had any symptoms (we've also tested to be safe). Most of our other friends who were there had had it previously too, but not these six (including my wife's dad, who's in his 70s and obviously in a risk category). Also interestingly, at least as of now, none of the six has passed it on to their significant others. But that could change too, of course.

Anyway. Still glad we had the party, it was a blast, but we may not do largescale indoor events again for a while.

Whoa, man, sorry to hear it. My best friends sent an email yesterday in advance of their own party tomorrow night which, thanks to weather, might have to convert to indoors: please test before coming over, stay home if you're sick, wear a mask if you feel comfortable. They threw an outdoor party last year at the height of omicron and no one got infected. Fingers crossed for you and us.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

seems like many of the cases I've heard about recently have been people who've never had it before (my entire family included). Is there science to that or is it just anecdotal...and you're hearing more about those of us who'd never had it.

dan selzer, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

I mean, it's just inevitable? There aren't many first-timers left to infect. We're all gonna get it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

xpost That's how it worked at Thanksgiving this year. Three of the people present hadn't been hit and all three (and only those three) fell ill.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

fortunately I haven't heard about any Paxlovid rebound cases since at least early summer. Friends and relatives prescribed it report feeling better within days and testing negative in a week.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

Even testing beforehand obviously is of limited value, because the rapid tests mostly don't show anything if you don't have any symptoms, there's a couple-day lag. In our case, the first positive case I heard from did test before coming to the party, because he had also done something the night before with a big crowd. He was negative, so he came to the party. I don't know for sure that he was our Patient Zero, but he was the first one to have symptoms two days later and report a positive test. So yeah, there's just no real way to know, anything with a group indoors is just gonna be a dice roll.

Yeah, everyone in my case was fully vaxxed + boostered and tested negative earlier in the day. Made no difference.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

My biggest takeaway is re: the efficacy of masking. I've been back in the office (with faculty, staff, and students falling ill left and right) for a solid year now but constantly masked around other people and have been fine the whole time. Thanksgiving was one of maybe three times in 2022 when I was unmasked at an indoor gathering.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

oh I paxlovid rebounded. I started taking it, was pretty chill for a few days, then a day after I stopped I started getting head cold symptoms, nothing crazy. But I suddenly tested super positive. Like I'd put the drops on the tester and within 15 seconds had two bright red lines. That lasted for like 3 days then I tested negative again and have been feeling ok except for a bit of fatique/tireness.

dan selzer, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

Old Lunch, that's my takeaway, too— I am constantly the only masked person in the room, and I'm fine with that.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

At commencement the other day I was the only person masked in 20. I'm the only customer in this public library now masked too (every employee bar one is).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

we used to have a rapid PCR testing site that was fast and used the very accurate Accula system, that I used to use when I wanted to test before some event. and the fuckers have all been shut down now.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

like, as of a week ago :/

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

Our on-campus Curative trailers, my lifeline for two years, I just learned will close next Wednesday. I'm livid. There will still be county sites, but nothing beat the convenience of a rapid/regular PCR test available a building away from mine.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

I more or less have not masked for months, and so far so not bad (knock wood), and that includes going to dinners, shopping, movies, lots of concerts, sporting events, etc. I've stayed out of the habit of touching my face and kept up the habit of thoroughly washing my hands a lot, so maybe that helps. For sure doesn't hurt. None (or very few) of my close friends or family seem to be catching covid right now, either, though I do have one friend who just got over a bad case (bad cold bad), who, per the anecdotal above, had never had it before. My daughter up in college, all the kids up there keep getting sick, but they're not testing positive for covid. Afaict it's just colds and the usual close-quarters shit, which, ironically enough, doctors keep saying is a byproduct of limited exposure to the usual cooties for such a prolonged period of time. I do see a good hunk of people still masking, but I suspect (and in some cases know) that it's strategic. That is, stuff like "we're visiting family soon and don't want to get sick."

I have a couple of super long flights coming up to visit family in Australia, and my wife and I at least are planning to wear masks as much as possible, though it definitely gets pretty uncomfortable after several hours, let alone, like, 17 or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

xpost Yeah, they just ended all but symptomatic testing at my university, as well. I expect the next quarter to be filled to the brim with student absences.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Bumped the rona thread yesterday, I finally got it after avoiding it for 33 months. Mostly just congestion and fatigue, doc prescribed Paxlovid during a virtual visit (was supposed to be at my annual physical til I tested positive) so I started that last night.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

aw, jon, sorry to hear it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Thanks, guess it was pretty much inevitable. So far my wife and son are still testing negative, hoping to keep it that way.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

I’m going to straight up say that if you’re just going about your daily business without masking or giving a fuck, then you are part of the problem and can go to hell

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

Hard to disagree

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

In the meantime, rest up, jvc!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

Really quite easy to wear a mask in public spaces I truly don’t get what ppl’s hang up is. Eat before you go to the movie or whatever, cmon

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

What blew my mind when I got COVID was when I went to pick up the Paxlovid...was staying at my in-laws empty house in suburban NJ, went to the local CVS and the pharmacist wasn't wearing a mask. The pharmacist who's job was to hand me, an obviously COVID-positive person, my Paxlovid.

dan selzer, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

I just don’t feel any sympathy for people who are like “masks are so uncomfortable!” I know, my immunocompromised ass has had to wear one nearly constantly because of whiny babies like who just don’t give a fuck about other people. Some selfish shit.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

Yeah the pharmacists at the CVS we go to haven't been wearing masks for many, many months. Still takes me aback a little every time I've gone in.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

my local duane reade is, but I live in a dense area blocks from the dreaded "epicenter" so people around here are maybe a bit less mask-averse.

dan selzer, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

Our on-campus Curative trailers, my lifeline for two years, I just learned will close next Wednesday. I'm livid. There will still be county sites, but nothing beat the convenience of a rapid/regular PCR test available a building away from mine.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, December 16, 2022 11:11 AM bookmarkflaglink

YEP! Curative were the ones I was talking about. I used to love using them, was so easy.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

wastewater data seems to show plateauing nationwide, possible slight decline in the west

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

cases obv not plateauing, and wastewater sometimes can be noisy on individual weeks, so not putting 100% stock in that yet

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

Florida ticking up more though, finally

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

Yeah the pharmacists at the CVS we go to haven't been wearing masks for many, many months.

The CVS pharms we go to, on the other hand, have not stopped masking up. I often gauge things by how many staff are masked at our Trader Joe's, and it seems to be hovering around 30%, though not consistently. I've not been anywhere in the past several months with even close to that amount masked. I think one important shift that's happened, at least around here or where people have the luxury, is people staying home or staying in when they feel or are sick. That helps a lot, or should. It's been months since I've heard more than a passing cough, sneeze or sniffle in public.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

my partner and i remain covid virgins, keep wondering when that shoe is gonna drop. She works in a school, i'm out at shows all the time. We're both diligent maskers but one assumes that's not foolproof.

Still haven't caught it either, and having that same "it's probably just around the corner" feeling.

Hope it passes easily, jvc!

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

good news for parents (not good that it was a huge wave, but good that it's apparently winding down)

RSV hospitalizations have peaked in the US: earlier, higher, and sharper than usual, as predicted by epidemiological models taking into account the lower immunity/higher susceptible population due to lower infections in previous years.

1/ pic.twitter.com/iOW5O4TSq1

— Prof. Michael S Fuhrer (@MichaelSFuhrer) December 15, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

early reports on bivalent booster protection against severe disease that are emerging this week are very positive. particularly hospitalization.

glad to hear about RSV. hospitals are jampacked atm due to the tridemic.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

I had RSV (presumably) around Thanksgiving. Not a fan tbh and I still have some rebound congestion/coughing

tbh I miss the dry cough of covid (but not any of the other bits) because wet coughs are gross

mh, Saturday, 17 December 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

I dunno, I prefer a productive cough. No cough of mine gonna be in the unemployment line.

henry s, Saturday, 17 December 2022 05:07 (one year ago) link

fair

mh, Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

I have still so far avoided it all. I intend to my best to keep to that.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link


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