It's fun to peer into Wonderland sometimes
― jus do jus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 December 2022 10:02 (one year ago) link
"On probity in public life, private schools, poverty and wealth, whom the economy should prioritise, social values and the environment, Labour and the Tories remain miles apart."
I don't think this is true.
― the pinefox, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:03 (one year ago) link
How can Labour make any claims about probity in public life given the corrupt, mendacious and factional way the party itself is run?
Surprising that someone as intelligent as Beckett could publish this.
― the pinefox, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link
Since 2015 the gap between Labour and the Tories – in style, ideology and policies – has often been larger than ever.
it was true 2015-19, but fuck knows what this stupid cunt is blathering on about now
― calzino, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:30 (one year ago) link
I hope he isn't getting paid for writing that shite.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Friday, 9 December 2022 10:44 (one year ago) link
those 'miles apart' in full
https://ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com/thumbitem/Map-Scale-Activity-4665446-1561987449/original-4665446-4.jpg
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 December 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link
you can't measure the vibes that bullshit graun hacks feel about the PLP, in the absence of any evidence that proves they are anything other than a bunch of dishonest tory cunts
― calzino, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:52 (one year ago) link
Important to remember a lot of them honestly believe this bullshit
― jus do jus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 December 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link
The Guardian is running a headline about a 93 year old's 25 hour ambulance wait over the weekend right inside its ambulance strike coverage. Only the third paragraph mentions this happened before the strike started. pic.twitter.com/4bzq2VJGaI— libcom.org (@libcomorg) December 21, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link
Surely it's even more noteworthy if this was 'normal service'? And linked to why they're striking?
― kinder, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link
their IT network has been fucked by some ransomware. Couldn't happen to nicer people.
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link
xp was going to say, besides the attack on the IT system, there’s been headlines all year about people having to wait hours for ambulances in dire circumstances
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link
xp oh wait did you mean the guardian not the nhs
yeah the graun, the staff have been instructed to work from home and they are "confident" about getting tomorrow's copy ready on time.
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link
I genuinely hope they all have a shit time of it!
xp lmao, Sonia Sodha crying and find replacing dates on one of her usual op-eds is it
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/01/wreckage-of-brexit-politicians-denial
― the pinefox, Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link
Well my expectations were already low
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link
Dark Side of the Moon LOL
― Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link
do have to wonder how much he was paid to write that shit, didn't even have to drive up the M1 this time.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link
quiet desperation is what I feel when this dickhead is quoting DSOTM, not once but twice in one piece. It's all about brexit is it? Nothing to do with the austerity that enabled it and both main parties still being 100% committed to it. That's not a JH problem.
― calzino, Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link
This year will mark the 50th anniversary of a musical masterpiece that continues to speak illuminating truths about the impossibility of the human condition, and how people from these islands tend to cope with it.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 1 January 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 January 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link
this year will mark the 7th anniversary of a referendum masterpiece that the losers have still learned nothing from
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 January 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/06/keir-starmer-tony-blair-reform-new-labour-90s
"Without the optimism that carried Labour to power in the mid-90s, the party now has no choice but to go big on reform"
Andy Beckett provides a somewhat convincing picture of the current mood. But he doesn't give any examples of the reforms and changes that Labour would actually make.
"Starmer’s policy proposals and rhetoric increasingly suggest that he would go further than New Labour in trying to change the country. He feels he has no choice."
No examples are given to substantiate this statement.
"A small but growing sense of anticipation about more competent and principled government under Starmer coexists with larger fears about the present and the immediate future."
Beckett is an intelligent, knowledgeable, I would say decent person. But he can write about a KS government being "principled". Has he looked at the things that KS has actually said and done over the last 3 years? He is not a principled person. He is a bad person.
― the pinefox, Friday, 6 January 2023 10:39 (one year ago) link
iirc The Guardian has reported on this case but gal dem's focus on ethnicity gives it a wider scope.
https://gal-dem.com/why-black-people-in-the-uk-are-more-likely-to-be-lonely/
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 January 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link
Hard to get through the interview, so much chaos:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/07/jack-monroe-interview
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 January 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link
Which is also interlocked with what I see of the commentary of her actions on twitter (basically she is widely believed to be a fraud; some of the people making the accusations are pretty unhinged though). It doesn't help that she'll never log off..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 January 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link
My take on her is basically "not going to wade into this" but her most vocal detractors do universally look like they should really get a new hobby.Should give her credit for being the only mainstream left twitter celeb to offer a full mea culpa to Corbyn too.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 7 January 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link
I don't trust anyone who opposed Corbyn early doors, even if they did change their mind when he was almost finished. Also I have a very low opinion of her dietary advice and without ever getting involved in the tedious pile-ons I tend to see her as a grifter and that "money-saving expert" can go fuck himself as well!
― calzino, Saturday, 7 January 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link
yeah not a fan of professional charitarians or grifters in general but i wouldn't be picking them as a target worth more than a minor zing
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 January 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link
and i'm sorry but this is how it works: as soon as you start bragging about gladhanding with big business then you're out of the Left, i don't make the rules
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 January 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link
I found what I loved, which is whisky
feeling this tho
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 January 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link
Not sure Martin Lewis would be offered a 'bathtub full of pennies' photoshoot but no idea if this is good or bad.
― nashwan, Saturday, 7 January 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link
"as soon as you start bragging about gladhanding with big business then you're out of the Left"
and there is nothing unreasonable about this rule at all, it requires zero explanation/justification
― calzino, Saturday, 7 January 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link
At the beginning of her career she got properly hosed by an agent and lost thousands. All of the posters who make it their business to sift through her bins etc are also bitching her up on sites like tattle.life (which if you haven’t glanced at it, is a fucking cesspit full of people who dO tHeiR rEsEaRcH about people in the public eye in the same way as all the other idiots who’ve gone down internet wormholes always do). A lot of terfy tabloid journos HATE her in a totemic, Meghan Markle way so if it’s boiling their piss, I hope she can sort herself out.
― put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 7 January 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
I appreciate that she is as much of a total mess as me, and I would absolutely fuck things up in a similar way if I got famous for some reason, so attacks on her for this just make me think about the pile of letters I can't deal with and my inability to log into online banking without having a panic attack, and all of the people I thought I quite liked online who would presumably line up to condemn me for being shit or a "grifter" or w/e if they found out.and obviously there is a continuum of people in the public eye from worst to best, JM would certainly be somewhere on the better side of the line, but if we are designating the proportion who can "fuck right off," I appreciate that posters here will vary from saying "the worst 30%" to "the worst 95%", and that seems basically fair enough, idk.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 7 January 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
obviously two things i would never, ever criticize somebody else for are having a mess of a life and addiction issues
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 January 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link
"I hope she can sort herself out."
Yes, this.
― djh, Saturday, 7 January 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
i know this is a thread to diss and bitch re G, but this was good.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/07/ways-to-talk-to-people-grieving-cariad-lloyd-griefcast
― mark e, Saturday, 7 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
I hope she can sort her issues and also pay back the money that she stole from people -- some of whom might have been giving what they could spare? -- because it sounds like that is what's happened xp
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 January 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link
Doing that photoshoot is fucked up to me.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link
Yes, that was, er, weird. I suppose she has a book to sell but I don't know why the Guardian thought that would be a good idea.
― Aw naw, no' an Antonioni wan oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link
I used to get told as a kid: don't put pennies in your mouth, they use them to cover the eyes of corpses in the hospital morgues. Not just a terrible concept, but very unhygienic as well!
― calzino, Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
so's sticking a rolled-up tenner up your nose but hey
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link
I would guess that it's an attempt to 'reset' - people think she's swimming in money Scrooge McDuck-style, but a bathtub of pennies is closer to the truth, is the message.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link
I think pinching off people who might be vulnerable then swimming in a bathtub full of pennies is a bit of a problem.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
to be clear here the "stealing from vulnerable people" is "not providing higher-tier patreon rewards in time when she was having an addiction crisis, though she's up to date with them now"?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link
I think the combo of giving lousy nutritional advice, being a melt and grifting cash from some of her constituency who might not be so clued up and might be poor is a pretty fucking shoddy excuse of a career to build tbh. I have zero respect for her.
― calzino, Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:13 (one year ago) link
lol wait is this truly the story? We need to up our standards for what constitutes a grift if so.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:02 (one year ago) link