that's more plausible than some of the Santos ones
― mh, Friday, 20 January 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link
reminds me of when MTG was first elected and it was discovered she had a "sex guru" who was tracked down and interviewed and one of the things he said was "I thought I knew her pretty well, she was not like this at all". Madison Cawthorn has maybe a similar story. I know a lot of people were worried that we were gonna wind up with a lot of Trump-like figures in politics post 2016 but I think the reality is we're getting a bunch of Omarosas
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link
The wife of a good friend of mine went to high school with Marge Taylor (as she was then known). Her recollection is that she was "completely unremarkable."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 January 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
There was a good article in the Atlantic about how all of these reactionary movements around the world (the author focused on Poland, but it was applicable to most of them) are really giving an opportunity for revenge to the utter mediocrities of the world.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 January 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
I actually know very little about Santos' politics, the myth has greatly overshadowed any policy leanings.. is he trumpy?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 January 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
I'm thrilled to be joined on the Science Committee by my Republican colleague Dr. George Santos, winner of not only the Nobel Prize, but also the Fields Medal - the top prize in Mathematics - for his groundbreaking work with imaginary numbers. https://t.co/RJQ7eP8n8x— Congressman Bill Foster (@RepBillFoster) January 20, 2023
― George Santos' If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D? (President Keyes), Friday, 20 January 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link
ok I'm actually starting to come around on this guy
I know everyone is talking about how George Santos wrote a fake wiki that said he appeared on Hannah Montana, but I’m obsessed with his alleged movie that starred three of the actors from Batman and Robin. pic.twitter.com/x7ugThowYA— Collin Murr (@CollinMurr) January 21, 2023
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link
Surprised no one has made the obvious connection between George Santos and George Soros.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link
this is like some Tim Heidegger shit
― George Santos' If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link
INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG
― mh, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link
thanks for new username Anthony
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link
Hello
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link
If his politics weren't toxic and harmful (just by association) I would be enjoying the lolz more. It would be a comedy gold mine.
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link
a real movie, with a completely different cast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invasion_(film)
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link
I think Santos is a perfect culmination of the Trump years, specifically w/r/t how the US blithely assumed "checks and balances" would protect us from bad-faith actors but, it turned out, were often useless because it didn't account for a group in power becoming craven evil-doers--I assume due to some naïve belief in the American people not electing such folks, or something. ("The system will regulate itself.")
Despite Santo being entirely fictional, he's sitting there in Congress, with no consequences beyond embarrassment, because the only check involves getting his fellow craven evil-doers to voluntarily give up a bit of power by expelling him.
― blatherskite, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
naïve belief in the American people not electing such folks, or something
Reading backwards, recently, I realize I had something like this naïve belief circa 2015.
It's not that I believed the American people to be good (in a moral sense) or serious (in an intellectual sense). Nor was it that I believed institutions and norms would save us. After all, I sit (and type) on Virginian soil that has soaked up plenty of blood from 400+ years of fundamental disagreements about institutions and norms.
It's more that I underestimated humans' capacity to have adolescent nihilism last into adulthood.
The old right wing was cravenly evil, but at least it wore the trappings of an ideological foundation. It made claims to a higher purpose, albeit misguided and disingenuous.
This new stuff (Trump, Boebert, MTG, Santos, Crenshaw, Gaetz, Hawley) is just a middle finger in the air. Owning the libs uber alles.
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
I go back and forth about this, and was thinking about it recently after reading a recent Nixon biography. Was it preferable when right-wingers presented themselves like respectable politicians who paid lip service to things like civil rights or tolerating dissent by keeping their hatred coded, even when we knew they were bullshitting? Or is it "better" that the mask is off and there's no pretense about being anything aside from what they are, i.e., hateful shitheads?
― blatherskite, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link
it definitely seems to be better in terms of electing Democrats. on the other hand we are fighting a culture war about fuckable M&Ms right now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link
It's a dileM&Ma.
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link
_The old right wing was cravenly evil, but at least it wore the trappings of an ideological foundation. It made claims to a higher purpose, albeit misguided and disingenuous._I go back and forth about this, and was thinking about it recently after reading a recent Nixon biography. Was it preferable when right-wingers presented themselves like respectable politicians who paid lip service to things like civil rights or tolerating dissent by keeping their hatred coded, even when we knew they were bullshitting? Or is it "better" that the mask is off and there's no pretense about being anything aside from what they are, i.e., hateful shitheads?
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link
It's a dileminema. Will the real George Santos please stand up?... Are we going to have a problem here?... y'all act like you've never seen a gay republican before...
― BrianB, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link
Yeah I think on balance it’s probably a bad thing. Do we get an anti vaxx/pro horse drugs movement without Trump?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:06 (one year ago) link
Frogbs, you say "horse drugs" like that's a bad thing
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link
It was definitely preferable when they kept their hatred coded. The rise in hate crimes against all kinds of marginalized people is proof that letting it out of the bag has been downright awful.
They used to sell souvenirs from lynchings in this country.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link
Not really sure what your point is there, unperson— I, too, know the history of lynchings and racism in the US, and it is pretty demonstrable that those times never ended, but certainly became less absolutely pervasive when vocal, outspoken racism was considered uncouth at best and career-ending at worse for politicians. In recent years, it’s become normalized in ways that it hasn’t been for years, and you can see the results of that normalization of discourse.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link
i agree with table
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link
outward displays of hate and racism seem to also be contagious.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:28 (one year ago) link
xxxpost yeah, there was this naive belief not even that long ago that racists would wear the label as a badge of honor, and anybody who couched their hate in dog whistles and coded language in an attempt to shift the center of the debate (see: "argument to moderation" fallacy) to greater normalize what kind of hate is acceptable...was a small minority. which is why lots of well-meaning but hella naive people thought this shit was a thing of the past.
we saw troubling signs before Trump of people who were starting to feel a wee bit more comfortable saying things that would not have flown a decade earlier and not receive the same level of punishment that would normally be meted out. You had the New Hampshire Police Commissioner proudly call Obama the n-word and press actually gave this piece of shit way too much attention beyond the "old white racist cop is racist, house should be set on fire, back to sports and weather" treatment it deserved. The Bundys militantly usurping land that wasn't theirs, obtaining a platform to say horribly racist shit that got national press coverage, and also desecrate Native American land, and having this seen as a valid, harmless 'first Amendment protest' by the jury. Geraldo Rivera stated that Trayvon Martin was wearing "thug wear" (a fucking HOODIE) and that was why he got shot, and nothing material happened to his career.
all this shit bubbling up and then these assholes miraculously get an Islamophobic, white supremacist President, and finally make them feel comfortable saying how they really felt and jut amplify the targets on people's back. idk that this wouldn't have happened years later if Trump hadn't gotten elected, but lord did he accelerate it.
even David Duke couldn't have done for racism what Trump managed in office.
― def jeftones (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 04:20 (one year ago) link
“If the candidate’s personal wealth wasn’t the source of the loan, then what was?” he asked. “The only other permissible source would be a bank, and they would require collateral… If a bank wasn’t the source… the only alternatives are illegal sources.” https://t.co/7t4FeQe5pO— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 25, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link
He had a rich uncle no one knew about
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
He was in a movie "“startting Uma Turman," he's got loads of dough.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link
resiidualls
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link
this is a classic ILX thread title in that I already automatically think of it anytime I see his name
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link
this is like when you're pumping gas and you want the meter to land on exactly $40... he just ordered very carefully.
The vast majority of congressional campaigns never recorded a single disbursement of $199, just below the level requiring preservation of receipts.
Santos reported 40 of them... Those included eight charges of exactly $199.99 at an Italian restaurant in Queens and another $199.99 charge at a Miami-area hotel where rooms do not usually go for less than $600 per night
In fact, his campaign accounted for roughly half of all expenses by all campaigns that cost exactly $199.99 — a statistical improbability.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link
I think about this thread title several times per day
― Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link
Those included eight charges of exactly $199.99 at an Italian restaurant
A bottle of red, a bottle of white
All depends upon your appetite
Meet me any time you're inclined
To spend exactly $199.99
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link
omg
― Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
maybe it's a prix fixe menu
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
Anthony works in the Goldman SachsSavin' his pennies for someday
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link
lol
Here in DC there are lots of spaces that are just close enough to the Capitol to be convenient, but just far enough away to be legal for fundraising. Occasionally for work, I see requirements for government contractors to have X amount of office space within Y miles of a given customer.
If I were a wealthy and/or smart person, I would rent as many of these spaces as I could afford to, and sublease them to needful entities.
I would also open a restaurant that was really good at charging precise amounts to stay under campaign finance limits.
See above for why I am not a wealthy person
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link
So he has stepped down from his committee assignments. It's a half measure at best, not sure who this is really going to please.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
Santos, because now he gets a paycheck to do literally nothing.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link
And the committee assignments will still appear on his resume.
― forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
His resume says he's a Senator
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
to be fair his resume also says he was the first werewolf aboard the international space station
― Cat? Cat??! CAT!! (cat), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
if george santos were a werewolf, so many things would make more sense. he'd be a hero, even
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
He's getting ready to change his name again
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
heh, siena college did a poll and it revealed that not only does everyone in santos' district hate him, but also that the voters in the district are also full of shit. makes sense!
[Siena College] did a poll and Santos currently clocks in with 7% favorability and 83% unfavorability, which is fairly poor. Even with Republicans he’s at 11%.Generally when you poll the constituents of incumbent politicians you poll ‘approval’ rather than ‘favorability’. But I think we can likely infer that his approval is fairly low too.But there’s more!Then there’s ‘Should George resign?’ 78% of his constituents say “yes”.Was it right for Kevin McCarthy to put George on Committees? 71% say “no”.Maybe it will all blow over since voters aren’t paying much attention? Sorry, George. Fully 81% are following the Santos new “very closely” or “somewhat closely.”Perhaps the most entertaining part of the poll is asking people how they voted. First, 89% of respondents said they voted, which means a significant percentage are liars. But it gets better. 24% said they voted for George Santos, which again means that a whole lot of them are liars or in denial. (Santos won with 54% of the vote.) 17% say they voted for another candidate. 15% refused to answer. (Who can blame them?) Notably 45% said they voted for Democrat Robert Zimmerman which is almost exactly the percentage of the vote he got. Of the 24% of voters who admitted voting for Santos, 31% say they’d still vote yes even knowing what they know now. 63% say they would not have. (What’s wrong with that 31% of the 24%?)
Generally when you poll the constituents of incumbent politicians you poll ‘approval’ rather than ‘favorability’. But I think we can likely infer that his approval is fairly low too.
But there’s more!
Then there’s ‘Should George resign?’ 78% of his constituents say “yes”.
Was it right for Kevin McCarthy to put George on Committees? 71% say “no”.
Maybe it will all blow over since voters aren’t paying much attention? Sorry, George. Fully 81% are following the Santos new “very closely” or “somewhat closely.”
Perhaps the most entertaining part of the poll is asking people how they voted. First, 89% of respondents said they voted, which means a significant percentage are liars. But it gets better. 24% said they voted for George Santos, which again means that a whole lot of them are liars or in denial. (Santos won with 54% of the vote.) 17% say they voted for another candidate. 15% refused to answer. (Who can blame them?) Notably 45% said they voted for Democrat Robert Zimmerman which is almost exactly the percentage of the vote he got. Of the 24% of voters who admitted voting for Santos, 31% say they’d still vote yes even knowing what they know now. 63% say they would not have. (What’s wrong with that 31% of the 24%?)
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
sorry, that's from here: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/santosmentum-78-of-constituents-say-he-should-resign
i think george santos has earned the benefit of the doubt and deserves a seven thousandth chance
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
Dancing With The Frauds
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 17:21 (five months ago) link
my friends: https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/other/ousted-george-santos-continues-cameo-appearances-with-new-christmas-themed-videos-santos-claus-is-coming-to-town/ar-AA1lHGSt
― Pierre Delecto, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 22:33 (five months ago) link
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/23/house-republicans-chaos-majority-motion-vacate
headline good: Republicans livid as chaos threatens to cannibalize House majority
final paragraph better: “Amid Friday's chaos, disgraced former Rep. George Santos announced he's leaving the Republican Party to run for Congress in New York as an independent — saying the GOP was too embarrassing.”
― mark s, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:21 (two months ago) link
chaos-muppet undefeated
― mark s, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:26 (two months ago) link
Alas, he flew too close to the sun (again)
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/nyregion/george-santos-dropping-out.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:58 (one month ago) link
Kitara makes a cameo on.. well, Cameo
“It’s your favourite, Kitara. After 18 years in the closet, George Santos pulled me back out, whatever,” Mr. Santos says in the footage.
https://static.independent.co.uk/2024/05/01/18/newFile-5.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link
Republican veep nomination when
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 2 May 2024 04:12 (one month ago) link