Sure, I guess science would be, you let us know which of the answers to the questions serve the interests of british imperialism, and then we go and look at what the answers are, right? I don't have to explain why 'whatever the answers are, they're the wrong answers' is a religious position?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link
(Sorry for double post)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link
I don't have to explain why 'whatever the answers are, they're the wrong answers' is a religious position?
Could you? I'm not sure what "religion" has to do with being opposed on principle to the state using racial categories as a tool of governance (assuming I'm following Left's objections)
― rob, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
also that even when it's not the initial or primary intention or purpose of the exercise, laying it all out like this in the world we have now makes eugenics and mass surveillance and employment of divide & conquer culture war techniques kind of an inevitability
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
Gotta catch ‘em allhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Labour_and_the_London_Poor
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
i think it was working at a SureStart, the greatest political achievement of anybody ever, that first woke me up to the data panopticon state and its remorseless self-propulsion
― Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
I don't quite know how to read you andrew but you also seem to be suggesting some kind of unquestionable objective fact of the matter behind it all. I'm not sure if you're using religion pejoratively or not and if so why it matters. but even if a particular answer does seem to partially capture a material reality (they're more useful if they can do that to some extent), even if some groups can make use of that answer to bond or assimilate or bargain or rebel, I don't see how that justifies the entire edifice, or makes it (actually or theoretically) a neutral enterprise
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
I'm not saying any of that, I'm saying that "I don't know how this works, but however it works, it's bad" is a stupid fucking thing to say.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
Clearly not what Left is saying. Wind your neck in.
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
clearly I'm not the only one struggling with reading comprehension but call me stupid because that's my position on a lot of things (the discipline of economics, for example)
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
🚨 Personal news! Today is my last day at The Economist. I am thrilled to be joining The Guardian next month as their senior China correspondent. Will miss all my clever colleagues but so excited to dive back into the biggest story in the world,好久不见!— Amy Hawkins (@amyhawk_) January 27, 2023
Economist to Guardian.
― the pinefox, Friday, 27 January 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link
Cohen done
https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/nationals/nick-cohen-allegations/
"One insider said that their experience of working with Cohen did not tally with the allegations aired about him."
Was this insider a man?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 January 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
"He's not that way to me" is a song only those with social capital get to sing. If you're tempted to sing it, ask whether you are protected in ways others are not, lest you brush abuse under the carpet.— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) January 27, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 January 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
you'd think running a one man substack would be more work if anything, if you're poorly
― Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
i suppose if you've got 8 arms it helps
he's never groped me by the photocopier, says a paunchy 6"2 bald guy in his mid 50's
― calzino, Friday, 27 January 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
Marina Elizabeth Catherine Dudley-Williams re-writing the history of the 2017 election to suit her agenda and embolden the sad divorced men who laud her shite https://t.co/8OdAwXJ5Qr pic.twitter.com/pPzMJQKFlV— j (@jrc1921) January 27, 2023
It's good to be reminded of this stuff.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 January 2023 10:37 (one year ago) link
ignoring the rest because it's boring to unpack at this point* - but the only way to reconcile "hey who cares what we think we're just glorified bloggers with no real influence on anything" with "we need more of your money to fund our hard hitting journalism because we're the only ones speaking truth to power" is if you *know* you're full of shit on *at least* one of those things!
* not because it's wrong (it is) but because it's so deeply and infuriatingly unserious it would be like trying to debunk a trump speech
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 28 January 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link
Obviously this is completely otm
― Kieth Encounter (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 January 2023 13:33 (one year ago) link
was Theresa May really the worst candidate? she only got a few hundred k less votes than Johnson in '19 for his landslide victory because that is how FPTP works. If Baroness Hyde wants to talk about the worst candidates it will be interesting to see how much lower the turnout is for the next GE shitshow
― calzino, Saturday, 28 January 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link
Calzino is correct. For one thing May increased the Con vote. For another, prior to the election she was seen as very strong and unbeatable.
'May was a bad candidate' is re-writing for people who want to attack socialists.
My local Labour MP was doing it at branch meetings, within a couple of months of the election.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 January 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link
Hyde smugly mocks Corbyn for losing "against the worst candidate and campaign in recent memory" (Theresa May). This was Hyde in March 2017, sharing her sex pest pal predicting that May would "tear Labour to pieces" and that Labour would be lucky to win 100 seats. https://t.co/qgT1pKEnfZ pic.twitter.com/HceoLfMZJ5— B (@Obsayxx) January 27, 2023
― piedro àlamodevar (wins), Saturday, 28 January 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link
Well said. Great tweet. The facts are always out there. They always show these people to be wrong.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 January 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link
The Guardian is oddly obsessed with giving up alcohol. Latest of many recent articles.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/feb/10/i-gave-up-booze-and-am-having-more-fun-than-ever-these-seven-tips-could-help-you-do-the-same
― the pinefox, Friday, 10 February 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link
Other great self-care investments include a personal trainer (the equivalent cost of two rounds of drinks a week)
what kind of personal trainer can you get for the equivalent cost of a few bottles of Frosty Jack's Cider? (asking for a friend)
― calzino, Friday, 10 February 2023 11:02 (one year ago) link
tbf frosty jack is my actual personal trainer
― mark s, Friday, 10 February 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link
affordable ice cold refreshment while you train, sounds like a winning "best of both worlds" option that the graun hasn't considered here!
― calzino, Friday, 10 February 2023 11:43 (one year ago) link
Surprising as people who work on newspapers have such a reputation for abstemiousness.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2023 11:43 (one year ago) link
I gave up booze for almost the entirety of the lockdown and I can honestly say it made absolutely no difference to my health and wellbeing whatsoever. Should I write an article about it for the Guardian?
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2023 11:47 (one year ago) link
Yes.
― the pinefox, Friday, 10 February 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link
When I had been sober for three months, I received a really big job offer – the sort that warranted a celebration.
I think there is a graun editorial rule that there are quotas of smug self-satisfaction per article that have to be met.
― calzino, Friday, 10 February 2023 12:03 (one year ago) link
i can meet them!
― mark s, Friday, 10 February 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link
that's just the Frost J talking
― calzino, Friday, 10 February 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link
I now have a version of Phuture's "Your Only Friend" running in my head that starts with "THIS IS FROSTY J TALKING"
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 February 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link
Earlier this week I was called by a Daily Mail journalist who told me Cohen had explained the messages he had sent on social media to a junior female colleague offering to take and send photographs of his penis as a "joke".— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) February 11, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 February 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
Fair play to the windmill fucker, he’s refused to leave this one alone.
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Saturday, 11 February 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, February 10, 2023 11:47 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
This could work if you also took up wild swimming?
― djh, Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
Thank you to those who are reading and commenting on this thread. I've been working on this for over a year and, unless stuff gets reported, I am going to start naming names. https://t.co/EyalJxcKMR— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) February 12, 2023
good luck to maugham in his quest to destroy the entire rotten media establishment
― ufo, Sunday, 12 February 2023 07:46 (one year ago) link
I don't agree with his fox killing policy, but I doooo agree with his Nik Cohen killing policy
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 12 February 2023 09:51 (one year ago) link
how is Cohen's health? He resigned from GMG on 'health grounds' yet still seems to be knocking out substacks (wtf they are!) and Spectator articles at a fair rate. Another example of how shite "cancel culture" is at actually cancelling confirmed miscreants.
― calzino, Sunday, 12 February 2023 10:14 (one year ago) link
i'm just boggled that people are so starved of spiteful centre right horseshit that they feel the need to pay for extra shovelfuls
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 February 2023 10:16 (one year ago) link
Windmill on a mission is a tune we can all dance to tho
Bit bemused about the column in yesterday's Feast about what to do with leftover wine.
― djh, Sunday, 12 February 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link
making ice-pops with it for the next heatwave?
― calzino, Sunday, 12 February 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link
wtf is leftover wine?
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 February 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
Well, exactly.
― djh, Sunday, 12 February 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link
Such a stupid column. Man U being owned by the weird American Glazers was utterly dysfunctional too. But Americans respect human rights, apparently, so that's ok?
The fact that the fans won't care if Man U win the title again under Qatar or whoever isn't actually dealt with.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/feb/17/qatar-buying-manchester-united-would-be-a-disaster-just-look-at-the-state-of-psg
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 February 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link
my experience of football fan Twitter is there's a vocal contingent of fans who wouldn't care if their club was owned by Nazis if they bought players and won stuff
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 February 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link
Also Paris is not a one city club, as my recent visit to Red Star FC's ground to buy one of their beanie hats proves. I would have gone to a game but they're playing behind closed doors at the moment due to fan "misbehaviour".
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 February 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link