I think that this film club needs to do the On The Buses film trilogy to truly capture how it was in Ted Heath's Pre & Post EEC Britain.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 10 February 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link
I think we can all agree that the ending to Annie Hall is, in effect, a happy one
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 February 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link
"just glad there are some people left who can make that distinction between the person and the film (easier with Rosemary's Baby/Chinatown, I think, just because they're so much better as films; also, Polanski's largely invisible"
I wouldn't watch a Polanski film nowadays either, Clemenza. I have no interest in supporting their work while these people are alive.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 February 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 10 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink
We just have to step outside for that, these days..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 February 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link
I’m in
― hrep (H.P), Friday, 10 February 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
I think we can all agree that the ending to _Annie Hall_ is, in effect, a happy one
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 February 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link
Ugh, for some reason, I ventured outside this safe haven and ended up interacting with Jeffrey Wells. Not pleasant.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 00:07 (one year ago) link
Yeah I'm in, tho can't promise to keep up every week - one objective I have this year is to watch more films from the rest of the world than US films overall and while these lists are varied and wonderful I fear they'd still land me on the wrong side of that in the end.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:10 (one year ago) link
Why does ILX hate L'Atalante so much?
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link
Is this true?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:32 (one year ago) link
Yes, fuck all canal barges.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link
Alba can you tell which ilxors are hating I'll bully them for you.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:43 (one year ago) link
Ha ha I was just making a glib comment after seeing the spreadsheet and noticing tha it placed relatively well in the S&S top 100s but nowhere with ILX.
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link
I think that applies even more to Beau Travail but I was looking at the early films.
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link
Gonna watch Beau Travail in a proper theater next week -- my first non-DVD/streaming experience w/it!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 February 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link
While everyone's gearing up, a reasonably engaging quiz:
Try this quiz - https://t.co/yyLpPtjiKP pic.twitter.com/fdHFKTXEpL— DVDBeaver (@DVDBeaver) February 11, 2023
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 11 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
66/100. I raced through it, probably wouldn't have done much better if I'd taken my time (I either knew it or guessed--though I would have gone back and changed a few guesses based on subsequent answers).
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
more mainstream:https://www.cinenerdle2.app/
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
68/100. Projectionist but no professor. But what's wrong with being a projectionist?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
Wtf, I'm boycotting this quiz
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link
Reasoning?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
Putting professors above projectionists!
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
Ah!
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
96/100 and only because I accidentally put Jacques Rivette when I meant François Truffaut
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
Check out the big brain on Brad!
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link
77/100 -- a couple of dumb mistakes on movies I've seen, a couple of lucky guesses on movies I haven't seen
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
71, though at least half were guesses.
― jaymc, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link
(Some of them informed guesses, though.)
76. About five films I did see and couldn't place grr
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
88. Nailed every one I knew, every guess I guessed wrong
― or something, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link
Oh and messed up Spike Lee . Just couldn't place that image in that film somehow
― or something, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
84/100!
I guessed on most of the contemporary Asian stuff, which rarely payed off. And I got the Black female directors all switched around. The only film I've seen that I miscredited was Death of Mr. Lazarescu.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 February 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
I just exchanged texts with my friend who actually is a projectionist but did not mention this quiz.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
I got 89. several of them were guesses based on what I know about the filmmakers’ visual aesthetics or the time periods from the images. I got several directors mixed up - Mizoguchi and Kobayashi, Kazan and Wyler, Etrice and Saura and others. I guessed Larisa Shepitko’s The Ascent correctly only because I have recently seen stills from it on twitter, but I haven’t watched it. Also still have yet to watch Djibril Diop Mambéty’s films, a few of which are on Kanopy, or Cheryl Dunye’s The Watermelon Woman
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:31 (one year ago) link
My projectionist friend told me about this yesterday:https://framed.wtf
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link
oh, it's a one-per-day thing, like wordle
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link
Yes. I only started doing it yesterday.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link
But I like, I like.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
I love Framed but I get annoyed every time a Marvel movie zilches my overall record
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link
Will we be using this thread for discussion of films that are not on your list but are still, say, Morbius favorites?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Just the ones on the list, think there are several which wouldn't be there without his influence.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
just downloaded sherlock jr, which i think just sneaks in as public domain. only i seem to have an entirely silent one and i can her neighbours clanking around
― koogs, Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
Looking through the list, some of my favourite directors, Louis Malle, Miloš Forman, Roy Andersson, Sidney Lumet, are either missing entirely or have a single entry, think this is probably A Good Thing on a personal level, more to explore, less so to those whose favourites are more well-represented I suppose, though otoh everyone likes talking about their favourites.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link
xp There are many different options for watching Sherlock Jr on YouTube with different soundtracks.
To your last post: that is sort of the whole good and bad of lists in a nutshell.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
I've watched the first hundred.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
For those who have MUBI, try to catch The General over the next 3 days before it gets yanked
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
I really am going to be forced to watch Holiday on the Buses huh
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
Whose first place vote was that?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
Is Holiday on the Buses the same as Mexican Bus Ride?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
Yeah, Rear Window rocks. Has overtaken North By Northwest as my fave Hitch.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 May 2024 15:12 (two weeks ago) link
some of the early relationship scenes dragotherwise it's great
― adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 30 May 2024 15:16 (two weeks ago) link
i find that "heavily foregrounded meta but glommed onto pure story-telling thrills" is the core of Hitchcock's attraction tbh
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 May 2024 16:17 (two weeks ago) link
Whoa -- I apologize for my phone-posted post. I meant: "best Hitchhock-directed ensemble."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2024 17:36 (two weeks ago) link
Forget Vertigo -- Stewart never played a better Pure Acting moment than when he watches Thorwald assault Lisa.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2024 17:37 (two weeks ago) link
Forget Vertigo
I will not
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 May 2024 18:36 (two weeks ago) link
Just rewatched RW for the first time in ages because of this thread. Agree, hugely entertaining and well conceived and executed. It’s also so perverse of Hitchcock to cast Stewart in two different parables of impotence. (Tho he let him have TMWKTM in between I guess.)
Something there obviously about the WWII generation of men becoming redomesticated and incorporated into bland American life.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:12 (two weeks ago) link
Yeah, they give a little more shading to the conventional wisdom about ‘50s America
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:20 (two weeks ago) link
The domestication of the American male was fodder for thinkpieces in the 50's - a lot of talk about "a crisis in masculinity". Pretty funny when now you hear mra types say we need to get back to that era.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:58 (two weeks ago) link
Grace Kelly cooing about seeing him in a grey flannel suit a couple years before the infamous short story.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2024 21:03 (two weeks ago) link
I love the shot at the end where she puts down her Himalayas travel book and picks back up Harper's Bazaar. She's not going anywhere, and neither is he.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 June 2024 00:31 (two weeks ago) link
My memory is so terrible. I spent this whole rewatch convinced thorwald didn't do it.
Poor miss lonely heart! What a damning indictment on Jeff and Stella, ignoring the potential suicide happening in front of them multiple times for the simple thrill of the chase.
Think I might be in love with Grace Kelly. Hope to get a date when I meet her up in the stars one day
― H.P, Sunday, 9 June 2024 23:58 (one week ago) link
Sorry, very slow right here. Yes, this was much better than I remembered, love the construction of a particular space and a time, just so vividly conjured. And the story is so self-contained, doesn't feel like it's just under two hours at all. Parallels with Vertigo are spot on, when he falls at the end, that's basically the start of Vertigo, isn't it? The exploration of viewer as voyeur is fine, but it was good not to think about it too much.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 14 June 2024 21:44 (four days ago) link
Still prefer Vertigo though
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 14 June 2024 21:45 (four days ago) link
Seven Samurai, Akira Kurosawa, 1954
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Seven_Samurai_poster.jpg
Morbsies #97Sight & Sound Critics #20Sight & Sound Directors #14
Another biggie! For context here are the next five in the list
Johnny GuitarJourney to ItalySansho the BailiffOrdetThe Night of the Hunter
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 June 2024 14:25 (three days ago) link
LOL, perfect timing: Male weepies: Pick the "best," I guess
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 June 2024 14:26 (three days ago) link
Every single one of the next five movies in line is a flaming goddamned masterpiece. I love all of the next five movies in line. They are great. Yep, love 'em.
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 June 2024 14:27 (three days ago) link
Ordet happens to be your particular abnormality
(j/k I can understand loving it)
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 June 2024 14:40 (three days ago) link
xps
Greatest film ever made IMO
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 15 June 2024 14:54 (three days ago) link
Hm, guessing you mean Seven Samurai?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 June 2024 14:56 (three days ago) link
mibbes aye mibbes naw
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 15 June 2024 15:04 (three days ago) link
Can be found here - https://archive.org/details/seven-samurai - it is quite long, isn't it?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 June 2024 20:27 (three days ago) link
The length of it feels fine
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 June 2024 11:18 (two days ago) link
should explain that I somehow haven't seen it before
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 16 June 2024 11:32 (two days ago) link
It flies by. Not a second overlong.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 16 June 2024 11:55 (two days ago) link
I wouldn't rank Seven Samurai in my Kurosawa top five.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 June 2024 12:27 (two days ago) link
I probably wouldn't either, but that's more about how many great films the dude has.
It is a bit sad that this is The One because there's a lot of more accessible intros - Yojimbo, Stray Dog, Ikiru.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 June 2024 15:55 (yesterday) link
The samurai film genre is interesting because if you compare it to the western, even though Ford and Hawks and etc certainly had moments where they questioned the myths there are a few decades' worth of films that mostly celebrate those myths, and so when the revisionist western rolls around we know what it's revising. But the samurai film, for a western audience, only comes into vogue in the postwar era, and so it's a generation of writers and directors who grew up with the samurai sprit being part of govt wartime propaganda and so it's pretty much all revisionism, very few movies come to mind where bushido is seen as anything other than a sick joke. At some point it just becomes part of the trope.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 June 2024 16:00 (yesterday) link
Donald Richie's book on Kurosawa is essential reading, and not surprisingly the chapter on Seven Samurai is great. (It may have been his favorite Kurosawa film - he usually listed it as one of his favorite films, period.)
I think it's very compelling to look at how WWII impacted Japanese films and how Japanese films grappled with the aftermath, especially now in light of the current rise of nationalism in certain parts of the world (like ours). Generally speaking, I never found comparisons between Japanese period epics and American Westerns all that interesting, but comparing The Seven Samurai to the American films it inspired (not just The Magnificent Seven but also Saving Private Ryan) does seem edifying in highlighting the differences in history and culture. The Seven Samurai always seemed like a great war film to me - nine years isn't that far removed from the end of WWII, and I was left with the impression that a defeated country was far more likely to re-examine and interrogate the culture surrounding war in ways that a proud and jingoistic country would not like to do. The myriad class conflicts and moral hypocrisies are either watered down or stripped away in something like The Magnificent Seven (turning samurai/military officers into "gunfighters" will do that), but they're always there in The Seven Samurai.
― birdistheword, Monday, 17 June 2024 21:32 (yesterday) link
Kikuchiyo gun stealing scene the heart of this movie. Stunning end shot with the Katanas in the graves
― H.P, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:21 (one hour ago) link
The horses in this movie reminded me of the horse(s) in Andrei Rublev. Put me off, for what were some great scenes. hmph. I did eat stake for dinner though so I'm a bit of a simpleton in this way
― H.P, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:27 (fifty-four minutes ago) link
I like my stake either well done or in the ground.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:29 (fifty-two minutes ago) link
Rear window is a movie that I had seen so many parodies of that end at first reveal (most famously the Simpsons, but so many others), so the second part suddenly felt really disorienting!
the moment the man looks out of the screen at the audience is so crazy the first time you see it,
and the film is incredible in how it seems to surface filmic epistemologies in an instantly graspable way that can't be untangled from the film's dramatic dynamism! Sorry for the turgid way of phrasing that but I think its clear what I mean???
That said there's something that really 'wears off' about the effect that is very different from e.g. Vertigo, where it burrows down into your subconscious (why does she take the backdoor to the florist???). I think this one relies too much on a central trick or conceit, very A minus grade Hitchcock. There's also something about how its been parodied that gives it a flat, repackagable quality although that's not really its fault. Its a shame because its got so much good stuff in it (thelma ritter, wendell corey, Dior by Head and barbara bel geddes designing gravity defying bras etc) but i could probably never see it again and I wouldn't lose sleep.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:33 (forty-eight minutes ago) link
seven samurai is so good and to me so obviously one of the best kurosawas so i'm curious what people who think this mid level would put ahead of it
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:34 (forty-seven minutes ago) link
Vertigo wears me down at the hour mark. Acts I and III are strange and powerful
What I'd rank over Seven Samurai:
Red BeardThe Bad Sleep WellThrone of BloodStray DogHigh and Low
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:47 (thirty-four minutes ago) link