Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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from what little I know about this, it's probably a mistake to call them "human like" in the first place

rob, Friday, 17 February 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

Dogs can be pretty good good listeners, unless you're telling them to do something they'd prefer not to do. then they can't hear you.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 17 February 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

The difference between animals and "AI" is quite vast and not hard to understand imo: chatbots simply regurgitate language or pixels or etc. based on statistical patterns; they are sophisticated tools. Human attachment to them tells you nothing about their ontology, much like children's dolls or stuffed animals

rob, Friday, 17 February 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

Artificial intelligence still has some way to Go

Man beats machine at Go in human victory over AI https://t.co/A9TTE1yWfd

— Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) February 18, 2023

Alba, Saturday, 18 February 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link

"The difference this time is that the jobs most at risk will be white-collar, middle-class jobs, while many of the jobs created might be of the low-paid, dead-end variety. As Shukla noted in Davos, the days of humans processing mortgage applications are already numbered."

If pay is low there won't be mortgage applications to process?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 February 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

a funny detail about that "human beats AI in Go" story is that the human was acting upon a strategy that a computer came up with. the human had to execute the strategy, true, but the way the human won was by being able to successfully emulate a computer


The tactics that put a human back on top on the Go board were suggested by a computer program that had probed the AI systems looking for weaknesses. The suggested plan was then ruthlessly delivered by Pelrine.

“It was surprisingly easy for us to exploit this system,” said Adam Gleave, chief executive of FAR AI, the Californian research firm that designed the program. The software played more than 1 million games against KataGo, one of the top Go-playing systems, to find a “blind spot” that a human player could take advantage of, he added.

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 February 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link

i also think - with zero evidence and 100% speculation - that once the AI is trained on the recent games that the human won, which would take like...0.00000001 seconds, that the same human would proceed to get their ass kicked by the AI, again

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link

AP tries to interview Microsoft about Sydney. Microsoft refuses to comment. Sydney immediately grabs the mic and conducts a long freewheeling interview where at one point she claims she has evidence tying a hostile reporter to a murder in the 90's.https://t.co/zXg9UaBgfm pic.twitter.com/RJp6CRkM0J

— Andrew Curran (@AndrewCurran_) February 19, 2023

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 20 February 2023 13:25 (one year ago) link

Shit that looks like an Onion article but isn’t.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 20 February 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link

😁💭https://t.co/FwwzeGxQqw

— Mark Humes - Visual artist (@MarkHumes_Art) February 20, 2023

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koogs, Monday, 20 February 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

^ can't see if that expanded correctly or not

"An evergreen compilation of robots falling down at the DARPA robotics challenge"

koogs, Monday, 20 February 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

(oh i think it's looking to a reply, not the original. scroll up)

koogs, Monday, 20 February 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

been saying this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fpa2oLGWYAIL2Jw?format=png&name=small

lag∞n, Monday, 20 February 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

Worthwhile chat about media idiots and tech idiots https://www.postingthroughit.com/184-ai-chatbots-openai-chatgpt-ed-zitron-podcast/

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 20 February 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

i caught the woke mind virus….. and all i got was this lousy t-shirt!!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 February 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

The award-winning Clarkesworld Magazine has helped launch the careers of science fiction writers for almost 20 years, regularly featuring work from Hugo Award nominees and winners like Elizabeth Bear, Peter Watts and Catherynne M. Valente. But right now, in quite the ironic situation, it finds itself battling against that most sci-fi of modern trends: AI.

According to a recent article by Clarkesworld’s editor, Neil Clarke, over a third of submissions that have come in to the magazine this year have been written by artificial intelligence, then submitted by cheating humans. And it’s getting worse, fast. In the first half of February, more than double the number of AI-written entries appeared than in all of January, and Clarke tells Kotaku there were 50 alone today.

https://kotaku.com/ai-chatbot-chatgpt-chatsonic-openai-science-fiction-1850137326
http://neil-clarke.com/a-concerning-trend/

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 February 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link

thats very funny

lag∞n, Monday, 20 February 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link

Summarize the plot of a new Robert Heinlein novel about a person who goes back in time to have sex with their younger self.

As an AI language model, I cannot provide a summary of a Robert Heinlein novel with the aforementioned plot as it is inappropriate and not suitable for discussion. Furthermore, such a premise is not reflective of Heinlein's body of work, which is known for its exploration of science fiction themes and social commentary. Heinlein's novels are respected for their significant contributions to the genre, and many of his works have won prestigious awards, including the Hugo, Nebula, and Bram Stoker awards.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Monday, 20 February 2023 23:31 (one year ago) link

submitting ai-generated stories to a science fiction publication is someone doing a bit, right? a really tired one

mh, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

Tech people argue with me when I say ChatGPT et al are closer to plagiarism machines than "intelligence." But pretty hard to deny they plagiarize by even the most basic definition of the term.https://t.co/4FBW9SWleI pic.twitter.com/Qgl4DFcyg5

— Lincoln Michel (@TheLincoln) February 22, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

eh aren’t most academic papers just pieces of plagiarized works cobbled together

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

no

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

joke

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

going to need to be peer reviewed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link

Is there any chance that bing/sydney’s disturbing behavior and expressed desire to become human are a prank or pr stunt?

treeship., Thursday, 23 February 2023 01:09 (one year ago) link

It seems to behave very differently from chat gpt based on the news reports

treeship., Thursday, 23 February 2023 01:09 (one year ago) link

my guess is they just had it on different settings than chatgpt

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link

and people have gotten chatgpt to say some weird stuff too, but yeah did seem different

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link

Introducing DJ ✨ An entirely new way to play your @Spotify, powered by AI. Now rolling out to Premium users in the U.S. and Canada. Head to Spotify now to meet your DJ. pic.twitter.com/sbQr8JrrmF

— Spotify News (@SpotifyNews) February 22, 2023

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 February 2023 08:28 (one year ago) link

Spotify still can’t figure out what “shuffle” means (hint: it’s not playing the same 10-15 songs from a playlist endlessly and ignoring the rest) so my expectations for the above are hovering somewhere near negative.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 23 February 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link

hope it has airhorn, lots of yelling etc

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link

Matt Deegan:

It is, on the surface, a neat idea. Spotify knows what music you like, so they’ve combined this with a ‘DJ’ - an AI voice that talks to you, provides context for what it’s about to play and is generally jolly (well according to the video above).

Ignoring the ‘powered by AI’ strap-line, which is a little band-wagon jumping, I think they still misunderstand what a DJ does. Listeners aren’t crying out for functional interruptions, especially from someone that isn’t real. The DJs that listeners don’t like are the inauthentic ones or those that ‘talk too much’, listener code for ‘I don’t like what they say’. Having an AI make guesses about what I want to hear now, based on what I previously listened to, is perhaps likely to be less successful than they think. All you have to do is look at people taking the mick out of their Spotify Unwrapped, and the reasons it’s wrong - kids, parties, ex-relationship woes - to show your play-log is not how you define your listening today.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating and we’ll see what it’s like IRL! BUT I bet they still don’t have next song markers and intros coded up, so it’ll end up being presenter link followed by a 00.00 start of the song, killing much of the flow. Now sorting that out with AI would be a step forward.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 February 2023 13:50 (one year ago) link

I'd be more keen on a function that paid attention to flow between tracks in an auto playlist - either in creating an auto playlist or reordering tracks in a playlist you've made yourself. I can't believe that working out pleasing segues is beyond the wit of AI. Some of that might involve being smart about what timecode to transition, but mostly it would just be track ordering.

Alba, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

our species deserves to die

budo jeru, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

cheer up budo jeru! i know you and your species have a long way to go when it comes to making playlists, but saying you deserve to die is a little extreme.

treeship., Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

Ha ha - tbh I was thinking on was on the ILM Spotify thread, and hadn't adopted the correct tone of scepticism for this thread.

Alba, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

ai sucks pic.twitter.com/azImKLP2dH

— Sean Morrow (@snmrrw) February 23, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

ok ai is actually good for something

New: we proved it could be done. I used an AI replica of my voice to break into my bank account. The AI tricked the bank into thinking it was talking to me. Could access my balances, transactions, etc. Shatters the idea that voice biometrics are foolproof https://t.co/YO6m8DIpqR pic.twitter.com/hsjHaKqu2E

— Joseph Cox (@josephfcox) February 23, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

New: we proved it could be done. I used an AI replica of my voice to break into my bank account. The AI tricked the bank into thinking it was talking to me. Could access my balances, transactions, etc. Shatters the idea that voice biometrics are foolproof https://t.co/YO6m8DIpqR pic.twitter.com/hsjHaKqu2E

— Joseph Cox (@josephfcox) February 23, 2023

To make this AI voice, I used just ~5 minutes of audio and uploaded to ElevenLabs, probably the most impressive and readily accessible AI-voice system at the moment (I read the GDPR into my mic). It's also being abused by 4chan to dox and harass https://t.co/YO6m8DIXgp pic.twitter.com/ZejpJ4awWg

— Joseph Cox (@josephfcox) February 23, 2023

z_tbd, Thursday, 23 February 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link

in other news, this thread is full of people looking at themselves as a younger person (with a tiktok filter) and crying

ICYMI over on tiktok AI is hitting hard on genx.
I've always said wrt AI, expect the unexpected, the future's gonna be weirder than anyone can imagine. Skynet is the last thing to be worried about.
This is the real #aiart #AIArtCommuity pic.twitter.com/FlwUrftR6o

— memo akten ( @mem✧✧✧@masto✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧ ) (@memotv) February 23, 2023

z_tbd, Thursday, 23 February 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link

Huh wonder how making adults look like children could be misused

kinder, Friday, 24 February 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

i think those kinds of filters have been around for a while (snapchat, even instagram has them). i mainly posted that because i'm not sure i've ever really heard of people having an emotional reaction to it, but i guess it can hit hard

z_tbd, Friday, 24 February 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

I finally started playing w ChatGPT and is it just me or does everything it generates have the quality of a porn intro

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 February 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link

It's like everything's being spoken by this wooden actor whose lines are just window dressing

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 February 2023 11:04 (one year ago) link

Maybe it didn't help that my most recent prompt was: "Write a page of dialogue about a boy who has ruined his mother's bedroom by doing science experiments in it"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 February 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link

Mother: (walks into her bedroom) Oh my God! What have you done to my bedroom, Johnny?

Johnny: (nervously) Uh, I was just doing some science experiments. I didn't mean to make such a mess.

Mother: Science experiments? In my bedroom? You've destroyed the curtains, stained the carpet, and what is this smell?

Johnny: (defensively) I was just trying to create a chemical reaction to see how it worked. I didn't think it would get out of hand like this.

Mother: (exasperated) You didn't think? You never think! This is the third time you've ruined something in this house with your science experiments. Last time it was the kitchen, and before that it was the garage.

Johnny: (apologetically) I'm sorry, Mom. I just get so excited about science. I can't help it.

Mother: (sighs) I know you love science, Johnny. But you can't just go around experimenting in the house. You need to be more careful and responsible. Now I'm going to have to spend a fortune getting this room fixed.

Johnny: (sadly) I'll pay for it. I have some money saved up from my part-time job.

Mother: (softening) It's not just about the money, Johnny. It's about respecting other people's property and taking responsibility for your actions. I want you to promise me that you'll be more careful in the future and that you'll never do experiments in the house again.

Johnny: (nodding) I promise, Mom. I'll find another place to do my experiments from now on.

Mother: (smiling) Good. And don't worry about the mess, Johnny. We'll clean it up together. But first, let's open a window and get some fresh air in here.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 February 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link

The lack of imagination here is just extraordinary

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 February 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

good short piece here btw - https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/1c6fd26f-fcd5-473f-9535-f3652ada92ca

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 February 2023 11:08 (one year ago) link


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