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Has anyone read Jeff Gerth's piece in the Columbia Journalism Review on the NYT's coverage of "Russiagate"?

I'd been meaning to and this prompted me to go give it a scan. I'm not too impressed tbh. I think Gerth has his own axes to grind and he repeatedly seems to take Trump at his word on things and downplays things like the Helsinki press conference (pretending that people's reactions to it were all about one Trump answer that he thinks the media somewhat misinterpreted rather than his bizarrely deferential demeanor throughout, etc.). He also has a very credulous account of how Bill Barr came to write the summary letter of the Mueller report — to read Gerth's account, you'd think it was a fair-minded summary, which is hardly the case.

Sure, the NYT and WaPo and others overplayed some aspects of the Russia-Trump story because the connections were never as clear or as quid-quo as some of the reporting made them seem. On the other hand, it remains true that there was a huge amount of sketchy stuff going on between Trump people and Russians of various agency, as the Mueller report bears out. Gerth's takeaway ultimately is that the Times and WaPo were blinded by hating Trump and abandoned their holy journalistic objectivity, which is why people now don't trust the media. I don't buy it.

He also has a very credulous account of how Bill Barr came to write the summary letter of the Mueller report — to read Gerth's account, you'd think it was a fair-minded summary, which is hardly the case.

This part galled me.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link

Gerth like the dude who shows up at parties with a douchey smirk and constantly says things like "not to be that guy" when beginning every convo

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 February 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link

I just don't think it's _creating_ the toxic attitudes

no but it legitimises them and weakens liberal opposition to the right's attacks.

ufo, Monday, 20 February 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link

Yep. For the sake of my blood pressure I should renounce my habit of visiting comment sites, but, boy, every time Ross Asshat and Pamela Priss publish more anti-modernist bilge another Karen gets her zings. The usual "I'm a Democrat, I voted for Joe Biden, BUT."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 22:42 (one year ago) link

I think Gerth has his own axes to grind and he repeatedly seems to take Trump at his word on things

Yeah, this came through in the interview. He talked about interviewing Trump and seemed to find him believable, which . . . wow.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 February 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link

Barr's "summary" of the Mueller Report was a true hatchet job--which is exactly why he was appointed in the first place.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 February 2023 23:05 (one year ago) link

Wasn’t Gerth one of the most credulous Iraq War cheerleaders? Why the fuck should his musings on Trump and Russia carry any weight at all?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 20 February 2023 23:05 (one year ago) link

Ross Asshat and Pamela Priss

morbs would approve

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link

Whatever y'all do, don't read Bret Stephens' anti-mask column today.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link

My blood pressure went up just reading that sentence.

jaymc, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link

Oh god ugggh thanks for the heads-up!

rob, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link

I finally had enough with the transphobia and other ridiculousness and canceled my subscription. Shoulda done it a while ago. I stopped listening to NPR news back in the trump years. Holding onto my Washington post subscription - plenty to disagree with but I have lower expectations. Getting less tolerant of bs in my old age.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

I love how he gets sad-eyes when the government does public health measures and happy eyes when the government funds war and apartheid in Israel.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

Bret Stephens should be forced to eat maggots for three years for just about everything he's ever wrote.

I love after the 2018 election when he was in such a hurry to shit on libs that he wrote how it was a disappointing performance and how they needed to reach across the aisle and then they wound up winning 40 seats and Nate Silver called him a moron basically

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

Elizabeth Koch is a part of the vilified Koch dynasty. Worrying about what people think pushed her to the brink of insanity.

Now, she wants to help people understand their debilitating "Perception Boxes." She spoke to me for her first big profile:https://t.co/DVKxmifHm8

— Brooks Barnes (@brooksbarnesNYT) February 23, 2023

I would not read that for less than $500 up front.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 February 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link

the end of that article's first arc is a new frontier in cringe -- it's two acts:

I.

Or you may have the opposite reaction: It must be really, really hard — eye roll — to be an heiress to one of the biggest fortunes ever accumulated, who graduated from an Ivy League university (Princeton) and is now married to a successful biotech entrepreneur. They recently vacationed in Bali.

When Ms. Koch first came on my radar, I was firmly in the second camp.

A publicist named Scott Rowe had called to propose an article on Ms. Koch and her nonprofit organization, Unlikely Collaborators, which is all about self-investigation. According to its website, the organization is dedicated to the creation of “provocative experiences that help you face who you think you are.” The site adds, “Our experiences use a process of self-investigation that encompasses principles and practices from eastern and western thought, meditation, psychology, and neuroscience — designed to expand your understanding of self, others, and the whole damned world.”

Oh, brother.

II.

“I know this is a lot to throw at people,” Ms. Koch said, apparently reading my mind. “Let’s go back to Perception Box. That’s where it begins and ends.”

She jumped to her feet and started writing on a white board, calling out each word with a flourish in a demonstration of one of her workshops.

“I don’t matter.”

“I’m not good enough.”

“I’m bad.”

She asked me to envision a person — a writer, perhaps. This person misses deadlines because they are “constantly worrying about making it perfect,” she said. “It has to be better. It has to be better. No, no, no. Not there yet.” That thinking can be painful and ultimately even professionally paralyzing.
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“That person is running a Perception Box story in their head,” she said, “and it’s an obvious one: I’m not good enough.”

I grimaced and told her that I could be that writer.

“Who are you still trying to please, and who are you still rebelling against?” she asked me, now firmly in teacher-student mode.

I squirmed and thought about how it was really stupid of me to say no to that blanket.

“Probably Daddy,” I said, almost in a whisper.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 24 February 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link

wow person who should be guillotined discovers CBT and mixes it with pop zen bs, so glad to be alive

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 24 February 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/26/opinion/san-francisco-democrats-board-of-supervisors.html

“Even Democrats Like Me (Billionaires) Are Fed Up With San Francisco”

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 27 February 2023 04:02 (one year ago) link

Another variation of the old “I am repulsed by poor people and poor people drug use, save our city”

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 27 February 2023 12:00 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

What It Means to Be Woke
—Ross Douthat

rob, Sunday, 19 March 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

best Madonna single

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

Trump allies are pressuring Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida to weigh in on the expected indictment.

Never Mind About Ron DeSantis

Ron DeSantis Has a Secret Theory of Trump

jesus christ

rob, Monday, 20 March 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

Are we all excited by the chance to once more be irritated by NYT Iraq war articles, now that they are running anniversary pieces? We’ve already had one today that had several paragraphs on the CIA without one mention of torture.

blatherskite, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

it's funny, I was paying for my subscription through Paypal and I removed authorization to charge it like, over a month ago, but never got around to formally cancelling the subscription.

every other day I get emails like "Second to final warning - your subscription will be cancelled", "final warning - we will cancel your subscription if we don't receive payment!", "final warning again, we mean it this time!"....been happening for like a month, daily threats, and still they haven't cancelled it.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

It's like cable or the Mafia, you don't get out except feet first.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link

Check out the kicker in this despicable profile:

Ms. Statler agreed about Judge Kacsmaryk. “I just know he just has a real tender spot for caring for women,” she told The Times, “and particularly women who are pregnant.”

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 April 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

Any article about that judge that doesn't lead with "That piece of shit" is a bad article

Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 April 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link

What Happened to America? We Asked 12 People in Their 70s and 80s.

rob, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

that “article” was so typical that it made me laugh— there might as well have been a quote about kicking a ball in the street.

all of them seem to believe that people should just take the jobs that are offered and work them until they die. idiots.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

the headline alone feels like a lazy parody of what everyone already hates about their vox populi attempts

rob, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

cheating b/c I did actually read this one, but was there really no one in editorial who saw this and had a dim recollection that the UK is—infamously I would have thought—not in the EU?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/27/opinion/microsoft-activision-ftc-antitrust-grail-eu.html

(and yeah their bios should have been enough of a red flag)

rob, Thursday, 27 April 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

this person is utterly useless

https://i.imgur.com/f9FYV5j.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

lol I saw that and was so dispirited I couldn't even post it here

rob, Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Chris Christie Is Doing Something Very, Very Important

rob, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Christopher F. Rufo
D.E.I. Programs are Getting in the Way of Liberal Education

rob, Thursday, 27 July 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link

good lord

jaymc, Thursday, 27 July 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link

I'm embarrassed to admit I am still capable of being mildly shocked at them platforming such an unambiguous and outspoken racist

rob, Thursday, 27 July 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link

I know everyone needs a rufover their heads but do we really have to let this guy write op-eds

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

at least put a pic of him under the byline with the caveat - "Warning, this piece was written by a likely Klansman" or something

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

WaPo not to be outdone:

What happened in the decade before crime rose? ‘Broken windows’ policing stopped.
Opinion by Charles Murray

rob, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Here are five key findings from a Times examination of Ron DeSantis’s educational backstory.

rob, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

I loved this for the big town small town angle(?): https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/19/business/media/kansas-newspaper-marion-county-record.html

youn, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ross Douthat

James Bond Is Now ‘Woke’

rob, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 12:57 (one year ago) link

james bomb trans now

van der gragt generator (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link

I did think of James when I read that thing on some other thread about cishet men only wanting to sip their little drinks from phallic glasses

anyway, fuck Douthat for stealing my screenplay idea

rob, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link

total clickbait headline on that Douthat piece, which mentions a new Bond novel in the lede but only as a launchpad for some meandering thoughts about UK and Canadian politics

jaymc, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

how does one doubt a hat

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link

is this the new bond by charlie higson of revered "post-punk" clatterers the higsons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bec8XIycg_w

mark s, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link


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