Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here

And just because I want people to see exactly what you’re defending:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqyprHfV/24-A28-C30-6-CD3-4-AB1-98-F2-7396-B594639-E.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/QCDQN7JS/944-A6-C4-D-DD96-4-A9-D-9-ED6-6-BAFCB4-ADA90.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/3xNgwY2M/5-FF41-DBD-11-DA-445-D-9-DDC-60-B0484-F623-D.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/j5Hf15Yf/ABA547-C8-8-F11-4022-8219-A9-A0-AA62-B6-B0.jpg

But yeah, you’re completely right of course. The problem is that I didn’t keep my mouth shut and let the man talk about how non sexist he is. The problem is that my comment expressing this incredulity is lashing, you know, like there’s nothing dehumanising about reducing a woman to a descriptive as a literal hole. Nothing bad there, no, absolutely not.

Ofc the icing on the cake was that once a man piped up to say that he also had a problem with it then the tune changed entirely.

"wonder why you seem to have gained something here by forcing an apology"

Looking at that thread unperson only apologized after Neanderthal said he was uncomfortable..xp indeed, an exchange which follows from the screenshot.

Ofc the icing on the cake was that once a man piped up to say that he also had a problem with it then the tune changed entirely.

Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. If we're being fully frank (and why shouldn't we be?), I came away from our initial exchange thinking that your reading of my post was uncharitable (portrayal of sexism is not the same thing as sexism) and possibly rooted in one-to-one personal dislike. When someone else, someone I don't think actively dislikes me, expressed similar misgivings, I was forced to reconsider, and think okay, maybe I am the asshole here. But since you're still pounding the table about it more than a week later, I'm inclined to revert to my previous interpretation, which is that even if I did fuck up, you only called it out because you don't like me, or saw my post as useful for your larger project of shouting about The Grotesque Misogyny Of ILX.

lol

In conclusion: boys will be boys.

And if you’re female and want to post here, you’d better keep your mouth shut on anything that you find objectionable.

Yeah right, men-women only interacting like alien species where gender issues are only understandable by the latter is exactly my experience. If "boys will be boys" is the premise and the conclusion, I wonder why you bother.

I’m very sorry that you can’t read.

If "boys will be boys" is the premise and the conclusion, I wonder why you bother.

― Nabozo, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink

An apology was issued at the time and then retracted bcz the person has decided to make up a persecution in their head. Just being "frank", you know..

Nobody cares you've been shouted at by a woman over some sexist comment. Log off.

I'd urge you to consider how you'd feel if you found yourself writing "this language was a way of inhabiting the mindset of a casual racist", and what might follow.

imo gyac was being entirely reasonable in pointing out what she found unacceptable in unpersons post.

or saw my post as useful for your larger project of shouting about The Grotesque Misogyny Of ILX.

What are the dividends on that project btw? Do we have an increase of women posters in the past two years? If yes, then 100% worth it.

I think you should have enough for that poll now, wins.

I'd urge you to consider how you'd feel if you found yourself writing "this language was a way of inhabiting the mindset of a casual racist", and what might follow.

every time Betamax resurfaces on here like some troublesome buoyant turd that won't flush down, this board loses quite a few percent of its vitality and the cunt quotient goes up at least a 100% - that much is for certain

jesssssssssus fuck guys, this is an ugly run of posts.

I mean it's no secret that gyac and I have not gotten along here in the past, but just about every grievance in this odd pile-on against her is unnecessarily hostile and bizarre (I mean, unperson was referred to, so I at least understand why he might have responded, though I thought the response was unnecessarily harsh). not to mention continuing to dredge up a year old post because you're sad that she didn't find it funny, Luna.

i'm a fuckup myself so i ain't saying I get it right often but yeesh, y'all, read back what you wrote in the sober light of day and realize how it looks and comes across. it's ugly. please understand what it looks like when a bunch of men are standing in line teeing off on a woman whose initial complaints were about sexism! i don't dislike anybody here but I dislike where this thread has gone.

Neanderthal

Just to correct a small point: I didn't continue to dredge up a year old post. In fact what happened is that whenever I commented recently on a Gyac post, she would say 'is this because I didn't laugh at your joke?' [Answer: no - you're overthinking it - I just didn't like your post]

You literally referred to it in all three of the posts I mentioned above?

I'd urge you to consider how you'd feel if you found yourself writing "this language was a way of inhabiting the mindset of a casual racist", and what might follow.

n theory I agree with NV, but I dislike the tone of posts that assume a superior attitude/greater moral or virtuous authority. And posts that attempt to thread-police like gyac's (pvic) are anathema to me.

ILM is a smorgasbord and it's better to take the foie gras and the wagyu beef with the pig swill rather than try to police it too tightly imo.

― Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:03 (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

You’re right, nobody should realise ilx is a community and say anything about anyone’s behaviour. Better to silently drop off. Better to hold grudges about jokes that didn’t quite work for a year, that’s obviously completely normal.

― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:08 (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

0sorry I messed up the quote highlighting there)

I’m going to lay it out nice and clear for you because that’s a take and a half. And by the way, in case you’re like “why so many screenshots?”, well I imagine the various posts in this shitshow of a thread have provided some clarity.

your initial post in my boundaries thread:
https://i.postimg.cc/VkZG6dC8/E53-BBA91-42-D0-433-C-829-F-08-E0918016-EE.jpg

you return to marvel at the fact I was too stupid to grasp your sophisticated joke
https://i.postimg.cc/VkZG6dC8/E53-BBA91-42-D0-433-C-829-F-08-E0918016-EE.jpg

You reference the exact same thing in a post in Left’s Beatles thread:
https://i.postimg.cc/pXx11NHg/F2-A4-F161-0-DFB-4-A1-C-92-AD-7723-CF896-A4-D.jpg

So after this you think you’re being misconstrued over repeatedly bringing this up? Really?

That post, btw, was where I was annoyed people were hijacking what was an interesting thread with barely veiled homophobia. Yeah, I know I said that upthread already, but there seems to be some difficulty with reading comprehension.

Oh sorry, I messed up the second screenshot, should have been:
https://i.postimg.cc/fRRqDxkC/3-B6-FEFED-D2-C7-4639-9337-D0-E333-D5-EF39.jpg

Luna, will you please take a break? Jesus.

But yeah table I’m not interested in doing so either, but after having to read absolute lies and shit about myself last time people decided to cash in their grudges, not letting it slide this time.

Neanderthal, thank you. I have people I’ve disagreed with on here here but not a single one of them deserves to be subjected to any stripe of bigotry, and I think you have to call it out cos otherwise it calcifies and well- you see.

What bit went over gyac's head? Out of interest.

a very stupid post by Luna Schlosser utilizing Northern Ireland as a metaphor. it was a dumb post!

and gyac called it out (rightly so imo) and it has become a whole thing

I don't see much there that would bamboozle anyone tbh.

Oh, you know what those Paddies are like!

Thread policing people's aesthetics or sense of humour yeah I guess it's probly best avoided unless it's heartfelt and/or funny

policing speech that's hateful or bigoted or approaches hate speech and actually drives people off site because of the atmosphere of discrimination it fosters = hell yes police the fuck out of it, if you want to furrow your brows about "what is discrimination really?" take it to one of the many many internet cesspits that tolerate that shit

^ ^ ^

What are the dividends on that project btw? Do we have an increase of women posters in the past two years? If yes, then 100% worth it.

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Pathetic.

I think we are now ready to unpack and discuss Ned's NED joke in the WC thread

I'm pretty sure we are all good people trying their best here, it would be easier if we all started with that assumption. There are ways of correcting unlikeable behaviour that doesn't require 'policing' per se.

I definitely don’t think you’re a good person, fwiw

Jesus fucking Christ lol

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7c/Burn_film_poster.jpg/220px-Burn_film_poster.jpg

What’s funniest is that in many ways I agree with the first part of VHS’s statement— I do think most of us here are fine enough people, and even if we’re bad or wrong or difficult at times, that’s life. But there are some ideological positions that have no truck with me and for which I assume the worst in people, and VHS has shown themselves to support those positions at one time or another. So be it.

Really tho, I do like most of you, if you ever find yourself in Philly I will buy you a drink and introduce you to my cute dogs.

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Really tho, I do like most of you, if you ever find yourself in Philly I will buy you a drink and introduce you to my cute dogs.

― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table),

at the same time?!

The dogs are bartenders

woof!

it's Philly, the dogs are allowed into the bar

There are ways of correcting unlikeable behaviour that doesn't require 'policing' per se.

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink

This is just nonsense. What are the other ways?

You don't like a post? Say something. It's nowhere near 'policing'.

gyac otm

Yes, I think unperson could have made their point with less transgressive language and no on would have had a problem with it.

Can these dogs mix a proper Negroni

I mean, this is an important question before we proceed much further

There are ways of correcting unlikeable behaviour that doesn't require 'policing' per se.

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink

This is just nonsense. What are the other ways?

You don't like a post? Say something. It's nowhere near 'policing'.

might as say the n word with abandon, we’re just pretending to be somebody who says that word!