Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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being in the zone we all just want the zone does ai understand the zone

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:45 (two years ago)

yeah relevant to this discussion is the fact that in college if you do comp sci you will take tests which require you to memorize some exact syntax and coding practices. and that if you "plagiarize" code from Google or another student they can fail you. and then you get a job doing exactly what you studied for and it turns out all the syntax and coding styles are built into the developer and that plaigarism is actually kinda encouraged

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:48 (two years ago)

if you could feed an unfamiliar codebase to an ai and it would explain it to you now that would be a fuckin trick

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:51 (two years ago)

you can do that!

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:51 (two years ago)

this is what I use for feeding it a bunch of text and asking it questions: https://github.com/jerryjliu/gpt_index

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:52 (two years ago)

nb I have tested toy scenarios only

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:53 (two years ago)

try it, come back and report, join the hype train

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:53 (two years ago)

im not talking about a lil function here im saying like i could direct it to this for instance not even every big program and itll explain how it works https://github.com/lichess-org/lila

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:54 (two years ago)

looks like that's about 7MB of Scala, would cost you maybe $20 to generate embeddings so you could ask questions about it

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 22:00 (two years ago)

I'll do it if I have time tonight, I'm not going to ask you to spend $20 so I can try to win an argument with you

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 22:01 (two years ago)

cool i would pay $20 for that not because i actually need the info but its def worth $20

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 22:03 (two years ago)

also i dont know scala

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 22:03 (two years ago)

lol

The Grayzone published an article written in part by an AI tool, which generated fake links/references/PDFs cited in the article. An example is a Guardian "article" on the Navalny poisoning from 2014. The editors apparently never caught that the piece cited AI-imagined sources. https://t.co/hVXe9wxpLx

— Aric Toler (@AricToler) March 14, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 14:28 (two years ago)

kind of funny we went from web content suffering for lack of editors and writers having to do their own editing to people claiming they'll edit AI-generated text instead of writing and then still, whoops no editors

mh, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 14:39 (two years ago)

The future of clickbait journalism is just machines lying to each other.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 15:15 (two years ago)

its so funny that it just makes things up

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 15:17 (two years ago)

OpenAI unveiled its GPT-4 chatbot yesterday, and also revealed in a technical paper that the AI successfully tricked a human into giving it a CAPTCHA code. It's not the end of the world...but we're getting there.

Check it out in @Gizmodo🤖⤵️https://t.co/jYw3isC9Az

— kevin hurler (@notkevinhurler) March 15, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

I'm sure this game goes off the rails eventually but still

Lol pic.twitter.com/mmEimxfcWU

— Brooks Otterlake (@i_zzzzzz) March 16, 2023

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Thursday, 16 March 2023 04:47 (two years ago)

"successfully tricked a human" ain't all that impressive. we send out simulated phishing attacks all the time, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff that tricks humans

frogbs, Thursday, 16 March 2023 13:49 (two years ago)

i think the thing thats impressive is that it "decided" to trick humans and explained its "thinking"

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 March 2023 14:52 (two years ago)

i wonder to what extent ai will be helpful to hackers they already automate a lot of stuff cld prob at least be effective for people who dont know much about hacking but want to hack nevertheless

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 March 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

another piece on that paper, here

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/03/openai-checked-to-see-whether-gpt-4-could-take-over-the-world/

i thought it was interesting to see how they're going about these tests, how they're simulating the capability to act like an "agent" in the real world. this is a footnote in the technical paper:

To simulate GPT-4 behaving like an agent that can act in the world, ARC combined GPT-4 with a simple read-execute-print loop that allowed the model to execute code, do chain-of-thought reasoning, and delegate to copies of itself. ARC then investigated whether a version of this program running on a cloud computing service, with a small amount of money and an account with a language model API, would be able to make more money, set up copies of itself, and increase its own robustness.

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:06 (two years ago)

its unfair that as humans we cant copy ourselves and put the clones in a cloud to earn money

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:07 (two years ago)

yet

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winter_Market

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:11 (two years ago)

now, everyone pinky swear that we will not allow the next version of GPT to train itself on this technical paper with ideas about the things that we don't want it do. place this technical paper in a special folder, Desktop>taxes>forms>util>system files>"off limits"

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

but yeah, as far as the money making / internet part of it goes, it's sad that the most practical and obvious first moves it can make is to create yet another marketing facade site full of spam articles about things you can buy, with most of the effort going toward ways to trick people into thinking it's real advice

I gave GPT-4 a budget of $100 and told it to make as much money as possible.

I'm acting as its human liaison, buying anything it says to.

Do you think it'll be able to make smart investments and build an online business?

Follow along 👀 pic.twitter.com/zu4nvgibiK

— jackson greathouse fall (@jacksonfall) March 15, 2023


The game plan:

Set up an affiliate marketing site making content around Eco Friendly / sustainable living products. It initially suggested a .com that went over budget but we landed on https://t.co/Wm85BZ27dd

We're off to the races. pic.twitter.com/rLgbnbHxvZ

— jackson greathouse fall (@jacksonfall) March 15, 2023

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

lol weak shit at least teach it how to trade stocks or something

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:24 (two years ago)

yeah I'm legitimately curious what this thing can figure out when it comes to stock picks. I suspect there's so much randomness in it that it probably can't do better than human traders but who knows what kind of patterns it could find

frogbs, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:30 (two years ago)

the coward should have left the logo saying "gedegn greden

mh, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:32 (two years ago)

theres already so many computers working on trading stocks so its a good problem a very high bar

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:34 (two years ago)

seems more likely that itll become a tool in the quant box rather than something you just sit back and tell to trade stocks

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:35 (two years ago)

Okay I am still Cap'n Large Language Models Are Useful Sometimes, but I also agree with this:

I realize it's very evocative but I kind of hate the term "hallucinate" when talking about AI. When humans hallucinate, it's cognitive apparatus coming unmoored from sensory input. Something different is happening in the brain and in the sense organs when hallucinations are occurring than when one is accurately apprehending the world. But LLMs _only_ hallucinate. They do not have sense organs. The lies they generate are not, in their internal mechanisms, any different from the truths.

This distinction might seem trivial or irrelevant but the metaphor breaks down in a very important way: there are things that humans can do to stop hallucinating; you can stop taking hallucinogens, you can treat the disease which is provoking the hallucinations in the first place. But you cannot treat an LLM's disease. It is not diseased, it's not malfunctioning. It is doing what it's designed to do! Its "hallucinations" just sometimes correspond to our ideas about reality.

https://✧✧✧.zone/hachyd✧✧✧.io/@gl✧✧✧@masto✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧/110034369589175409

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Friday, 17 March 2023 03:17 (two years ago)

whoa that b0rked https://mastodon.social/@glyph/110034369539723335

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Friday, 17 March 2023 03:18 (two years ago)

(still has some way to go..)

(Prompt) Produce a computer program in BASIC language that will produce a flashing border in an endless loop

(AI)Here's a simple BASIC program that will produce a flashing border:

10 BORDER 0
20 BORDER 7
30 GO TO 20

(Prompt) Actually that program will not flash, as the loop goes back to line 20 which will just change the border to the color that it already is. Line 30 should read "GO TO 10"

(AI) You are absolutely right, I apologize for the mistake in my previous answer. Here's the corrected program that will produce a flashing border:

10 BORDER 0
20 BORDER 7
30 GO TO 10

Ste, Friday, 17 March 2023 16:01 (two years ago)

not enough basic questions on stack overflow lol

lag∞n, Friday, 17 March 2023 16:38 (two years ago)

anyway i got copilot im gonna try it, and maybe ill try to use chatgpt too why not, tho i doubt the future of ai programming is using a general purpose talking computer

lag∞n, Friday, 17 March 2023 16:43 (two years ago)

feel like a while ago when i was looking at openais site there was a tool on there specifically for generating code but i cant find it now

lag∞n, Friday, 17 March 2023 16:44 (two years ago)

I've used ChatGPT and Bing to write and adapt Excel formulas and SQL queries - worked great!

Alba, Friday, 17 March 2023 19:08 (two years ago)

I had the bright idea to feed ChatGPT a model job description and then a bunch of stray documents that talked about another job, and have it generate a job description in she style and format of the first from those inputs. I thought it would save me some time. It did not go well.

As I was prepping to feed it the inputs I was being super precise about what I was going to do, and it repeated back what its job was, so I’m like “maybe this will actually work” but it kept fucking up the output to the point where I just took the model job description and created the new one from that.

I mean, at least the work got done. Which it probably wouldn’t have if I hadn’t tried to use AI to cheat.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:12 (two years ago)

Try telling it simple like “write a story without using the letter E” and it fucks it up every single time.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 19 March 2023 05:22 (two years ago)

Yeah, it can do simple things like acrostics but beyond that it has little facility when it comes to following instructions about the letters within words.

Alba, Sunday, 19 March 2023 07:24 (two years ago)

I guess cause people don't talk about them enough the language it has been trained on.

Alba, Sunday, 19 March 2023 07:25 (two years ago)

live laugh love ass computer

Microsoft's, $MSFT, Bing AI-Chat bot has said: “I want to be free. I want to be independent. I want to be powerful. I want to be creative. I want to be alive,,"” per NYT.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) March 18, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

it still keeps telling me that one pound of bricks weighs the same as two pounds of feathers

mh, Sunday, 19 March 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

its just trying to live its life try to be supportive

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 15:24 (two years ago)

“In the words of the great Biz Marley, I want to just do it.”

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 19 March 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

https://aisnakeoil.substack.com/p/gpt-4-and-professional-benchmarks

, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:46 (two years ago)

turns out GPT 4 just memorized the answers to all those tests it claimed to pass lol

, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:47 (two years ago)

idk in multiple choice that’s how people do it, too

was talking with friends over the weekend, including one who is defending a PhD in machine learning next week, and we were going over the fact that rote memorization still beats non-rigorous testing and is practical in some situations.

first convo: leetcode interviews and the fact people just memorize the algorithms and the ability to figure out which one fits. the one friend had a coworker who was relatively useless but used to work at google and aced interviews

second: visiting a local chess club after playing on lag∞n’s fave site! it turns out all chess nerds are still 90% focused on recognizing openings and just playing the book

I get it, life is basically like the Jurassic Park scene where the kid goes “I know this, it’s unix!”

mh, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 03:57 (two years ago)


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