You Can't Stay 'Cause You Been Somewhere Else: Family Relationships in Films

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No one wants me to bring The Color Wheel into this thread, yet it’s the first thing that came to mind for brother-sister movies.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 7 May 2023 01:31 (one year ago) link

I had to look that up, realize I started to watch it on MUBI months ago and didn't finish. I think I was on the fence and just got sidetracked.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 May 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link

Of recent vintage, Aftersun is a good father-daughter film.

oh yeah, Aftersun was terrific

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Sunday, 7 May 2023 01:42 (one year ago) link

For mother/daughter: The Florida Project.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 7 May 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link

Grandson to Grandfather: A Life by Canadian director Frank Cole.

Affliction and Rocco and His Brothers come to mind as harsh depictions of brotherly (and parental) relationships.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 7 May 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link

Another good brother-sister one (coincidentally also with Laura Linney): The Savages.

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 7 May 2023 02:09 (one year ago) link

well first thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title was You Can Count on Me, so gotta agree it's iconic in this category.

He Got Game for father son

Crumb for brother brother

Lady Bird for mother daughter

Rachel Getting Married should be a good sister-sister one but I don't recall if Rosemarie Dewitt's half of the relationship is all that well developed as a character outside of someone for Anne Hathaway to react to

Was thinking about the Dardennes but the really powerful relationships that come to mind are more unconventional

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 7 May 2023 02:18 (one year ago) link

I have always enjoyed the Paul Rudd as holy-fool vehicle Our Idiot Brother

ryan, Sunday, 7 May 2023 02:19 (one year ago) link

How about Grave of the Fireflies for brother-sister?

jmm, Sunday, 7 May 2023 03:29 (one year ago) link

Ctrl-f "p0rnhuß"

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 7 May 2023 04:32 (one year ago) link

All About My Mother ranks among the warmest of queer family films. My Own Private Idaho too.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 May 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link

Unrelated to my last post: Killer of Sheep too.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 May 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link

The Cathedral the definitive movie for looking at an old photo of your aunts and wondering what they were talking about

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Sunday, 7 May 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

I never saw it, but was The Skeleton Twins good for brother-sister?

well first thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title was You Can Count on Me, so gotta agree it's iconic in this category.

Yep!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 May 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

I remember liking Ordinary People but haven't seen it in decades

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 May 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

Grey Gardens for mother-daughter

bulb after bulb, Monday, 8 May 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link

hell yes to Ordinary People and The Cathedral. Also: the excellent Armageddon Time.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 May 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

Don't know why I didn't include this in my initial post: The Godfather (father-son) and The Godfather Part II (brother-brother, maybe brother-sister).

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

Holiday is really good for sibling relationships and the parallel-but-different effects of a toxic upbringing.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

^^ great pick. Lew Ayres -- one of my favorite portraits of dissolution.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

Obviously, there are countless great father-son and mother-son films. One of the reasons You Can Count on Me sticks out is the comparative scarcity of brother-sister films.

― clemenza

you could make a great fucking film about the relationship between a trans woman and her brother (or brothers). me and my brothers. there's a whole novel there (one i'm definitely never going to write, though, too personally painful).

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link

La Cienega is an amazing portrait of a (sweaty) dysfunctional family. Joanna Hogg's Archipelago. Less sweaty but just as dysfunctional.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

Perverse brother-sister film: Sweet Smell of Success.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link

At Close Range, in the category of extremely fucked-up

omar little, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

Watched that for the first time a few months ago; that's a good one.

I didn't care much for Albert Brooks's Mother when it came out--inflated expectations, possibly--but that might be an obvious inclusion.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link

Tetro, brother-brother

brimstead, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 22:10 (one year ago) link

prob recency bias but the best brother-brother narratives that immed come to mind are both shows:

-Beef
-I Know This Much is True

johnny crunch, Thursday, 11 May 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link

I've definitely seen some of the permutations done really well in TV shows: Six Feet Under might have aced all seven (Nate Sr. didn't have a lot of interaction with his kids, being dead and all, but what there was was excellent; for sister-sister, you had Ruth and Sarah).

clemenza, Friday, 12 May 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Dreamin' Wild (the Donnie and Joe Emerson film) somewhat disjointed and morose for the first hour, but I still liked it up till their big reunion showcase in Seattle--lost its way after that, I thought. I'll post about here instead of on their thread; it's probably best appreciated as a pretty good brother film.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 September 2023 01:35 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

Aftersun - the sense of dread / imminent threat affected my wife more than me. Under Pressure though, omg. An incredible and unexpected transformation of something so familiar, beloved, and uplifting (despite the lyrics) into something unfamiliar and disturbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGy2xrY-x7I

I should accept the mystery but I'm going to watch the Aftersun Explained video...

ledge, Monday, 4 March 2024 10:29 (two months ago) link

I thought I might have mentioned The Virgin Suicides itt before but apparently not? Which is strange as I’ve watched it with my own sisters several times.

Obviously it’s filmed from mainly an external POV to the sisters but you do get some internal dialogue in the form of Cecilia’s diary entries. There’s a bit in one of her voiceovers where she says “My sister, the mean one, pulling my hair,” and we would always talk about our theories about which sister that was (majority opinion was Mary). Film depicts the twisting and perversion of normal sister relationships - the sisters teasing and having impenetrable injokes with each other was very familiar to me, being locked in the house by my parents less so.

Cecilia’s observations about her sisters that come through the veil of familiarity and exasperation where you know someone well enough to know them almost as well as you know yourself - otm.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 4 March 2024 12:47 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

I'd say that American Fiction makes its handful of brother-sister and brother-brother scenes really count.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2024 21:40 (four weeks ago) link


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