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Tbh I think digging into the background of "H" is maybe helpful in the sense that there has to be pathology involved, and I suspect many of the worst members of the n*zi party would have comfortably found a home hating another group, in another era, in another place. Not that antisemitism doesn't attract the worst of the worst as far as that goes.

I was thinking abt a former friend recently whose low key demeanor was probably cloaking a sublevel iciness and cruelty I didn't notice, and who seems like a guy who is perfectly at home in the alt-right but might have enjoyed a spot working for Goebbels or driving his listeners to murder on a Rwandan radio station.

omar little, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

xp it was the gist of it is like if this discussion is worth having but maybe it superficially resembles others that aren't worth having and some people are taking it the wrong way and the same could be said for this meta-(meta-?)discussion then idk i lost my train of thought

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

I don't think people are misperceiving anything people are just perceiving different threads and connections due to different experiences temperaments motivations etc

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link

One thing you can’t deny — my threads put numbers on the boards

treeship., Friday, 9 June 2023 11:55 (one year ago) link

You are a popular poster, who will never be banned

xyzzzz__, Friday, 9 June 2023 12:06 (one year ago) link

xp who cares about what black posters might feel about the WELL ACTUALLY of racial slurs right?

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 9 June 2023 12:31 (one year ago) link

I do

Treeship otm

hrep (H.P), Friday, 9 June 2023 12:33 (one year ago) link

the prize for winning Best Bully of ILX is absolutely nothing ... maybe a mere reprieve from a ban due to enough people being intimidated

sarahell, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo

xyzzzz__, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

yes i drove past the Banchan korean chicken place yesterday ... sorry for soul coughing

sarahell, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

my favorite drummer with the absolute worst technique? william goldsmith, sunny day real estate

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 10 June 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link

Bad drummer technique is an absolute pet peeve of mine.

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 10 June 2023 01:28 (one year ago) link

i feel like a good drummer with bad technique is impossible, what does that even mean, would love to hear any songs that work despite the bad drummer technique

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 10 June 2023 08:30 (one year ago) link

like yeah phil rudd is no neil peart but why would you want that

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 10 June 2023 08:36 (one year ago) link

great drummer technique imo but I know that's a minority opinion

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 10 June 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link

The secular internet left appears to have a complicated relationship with law enforcement

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 June 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link

I know it's considered hysterical scoldy killjoy shit to take issue with paedophiles and misogynists being celebrated so I'll keep it off the threads and just register my displeasure here

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 10 June 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

the left having a contradictory relationship with state power is shocking and unprecedented though

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 10 June 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

The video doesn’t show her playing. The long-standing assumption that they were unskilled is… questionable and a bit misogynistic tbh. If they were boys, it wouldn’t have been as widely assumed

sarahell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

And it is also complicated… there are many individual techniques that go into the general category, and drumming has changed/evolved over time (just talking within the jazz-rock genre centered in the US/Western Europe) … like matched grip, and the advent of the double-kick pedal, triggers, etc … what is privileged and what isn’t… like I have a friend who I will clown about bringing hi-hat to gigs because all he uses it as is a cymbal… but he has amazing moeller technique. Super impressive

sarahell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

There are others who have certain extended techniques down masterfully (bowing and scraping cymbals for example) … but ask them to do triple paradiddles like Zach Hill and they would not be able to

sarahell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

I love her drumming I wasn't trying to be ironic but their reputation precedes them mostly for the reason you said (feminist icon frank zappa etc) - the rest is way too technical for me but it sounds cool

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link

The video doesn’t show her playing. The long-standing assumption that they were unskilled is… questionable and a bit misogynistic tbh. If they were boys, it wouldn’t have been as widely assumed


I love the Shaggs but they literally couldn’t play in time with each other and I doubt it’s because they went to Captain Beefheart’s off-kilter desert bootcamp

That said, I can def see them being treated more as a “statement of purpose” like Half Japanese or Beat Happening or the Germs or whatever if they were boys

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

i am glad we all like the Shaggs here <3

sarahell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

the first time i heard the Shaggs was in like 2001 when 'Who Are Parents' was playing in a record store. i thought it was a contemporary band, that they were playing out of time with each other on purpose, that it was really creative and sounded amazing. i bought their album on the spot.

carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link

just instantly i was like 'i gotta write a song where the drums are playing in a different groove and tempo from the rest of the instruments, that's such a great idea, i must rip it off'

carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

i mean, if what you play is like, the musical equivalent of a burger and fries, and you are technically competent at it ... though not everyone thinks a burger and fries is the most amazing thing, but it's not like the metaphorical burger and fries aren't great examples of what they are. ... sometimes you want baklava or a Burmese tea leaf salad or pizza

sarahell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link

or the Beatles

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link

yeah, I'd say if Meg White is a burger and fries, then the Beatles could be ... akin to pizza. Huh. Maybe you should start a thread about that whiney?

sarahell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

I never want the Beatles.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link

I know nothing about drumming or playing instruments and what follows is yet another example of me opining online with an unearned sense of authority

But

No way is Meg White comparable to the Shaggs. The Shaggs were deliberately, weirdly incompetent and offbeat while Meg was just sort of “back to basics”

treeship., Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link

is there another thread/board/site ye could be doing this on

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:23 (one year ago) link

if ye have to do it at all

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

it's true meg white is no helen wiggin her drumming is much more boring

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link

still the best thing that ever happened to jack though

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link

The Meg vs. Jack

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link

I read a positive review for a movie called “terrifier 2” and it sounded the stupidest shit ever. Is it?

treeship., Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link

comparing music and musicians to food is very key to ILX culture

sarahell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:06 (one year ago) link

I've heard Helen Wiggin's influence in the drumming of drummers both great (Kevin Shea) and terrible ([redacted])

professional window (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link

Xp do people compare posters to food? Like who is a not quite ripe early summer peach? And who is a maggot ridden casu martzu cheese?

treeship., Sunday, 11 June 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link

James Redd and the Blecchs would be a biryani cart special paired with a fine rare vintage cabernet.

carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 11 June 2023 02:29 (one year ago) link

Steve Gadd is a Rice Krispies treat

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 11 June 2023 05:16 (one year ago) link

crisp, textural, yet also chewy, rich, always sweet, never cloying

Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 11 June 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

^ gets it

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link

I wrote a version of this offsite to sarahel but

The food metaphor for Meg White is Cool Haus ice cream sandwiches, which had a brick and mortar that I would go to. The ice cream wasn’t exactly great — which *would* seem like a huge issue with an ice cream sandwich. I mean, it’s called “ice cream sandwich” not “stuffed cookies”

But the cookies, the backbone of the sandwich, were phenomenal. When I’d go, I wouldn’t just order a cookie, I’d order the whole sandwich with the knowledge that the cookies would outshine the ice cream

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 June 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

If Son Haus made ice cream cookies...

Mark G, Monday, 12 June 2023 09:43 (one year ago) link

read a positive review for a movie called “terrifier 2” and it sounded the stupidest shit ever. Is it?

It's no Terrifier 1, that's for sure.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 June 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link


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