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Remembering how 'knackered' (in other words not really knackered at all) the Tories were just before the 1997 GE and comparing them to how knackered the Tories are now more than anything else shows how absolutely knackered Labour are now.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 11 June 2023 08:45 (eleven months ago) link

last year I was chatting with old bloke who is a long time on/off Labour member who was disgusted with the Kinnock purges and first cancelled their membership over clause 4, but keeps going back to them on the rationale that they are the only vehicle for change and is too much of a party history geek to ever totally give up on them. He was a bit lukewarm and critical of Corbyn but not as hostile as yer average melts were at the time and gave me a telling off for dissing Kieth at the start of his leadership. But now he's really really glum about Kieth.

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2023 10:18 (eleven months ago) link

if Starmer gets in it’s up to all of us to push him in the right direction, and i suspect that will have to come from outside the party. i mean he is a chickenshit with no principles so it’s not like he won’t change his mind for expediency. we just need to make the right moves expedient for him

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:44 (eleven months ago) link

either that or get him on mic calling some old lady a bigot

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:45 (eleven months ago) link

You're more likely to get some old lady on a mic calling him a bigot.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:55 (eleven months ago) link

Police Scotland: A 52-year-old woman has been arrested as a suspect in connection with the investigation into the SNP's funding and finances.

Nicola Ferguson Sturgeon is a Scottish politician who served as First Minister of Scotland and Leader of the Scottish National Party from 2014 to 2023. Wikipedia
Born: 19 July 1970 (age 52 years), Ayrshire Central Hospital, Irvine.

Just sayin' like.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:35 (eleven months ago) link

What!

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:45 (eleven months ago) link

Sorry Scots, looks like you'll be yoked to perfidious Albion for a while yet

darts macabre (Matt #2), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:49 (eleven months ago) link

I blame that shifty husband of hers.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:09 (eleven months ago) link

https://dkanut5j171nq.cloudfront.net/catalogue-images/ti104236.jpg

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:35 (eleven months ago) link

Getting arrested or indicted is all the rage these days

StanM, Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:48 (eleven months ago) link

Given she posted her driving theory test yesterday, polis clearly thought she was a flight risk, hence the lifting

— Michael Scanlan is on MAB (@ScanlanWithAnA) June 11, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 15:11 (eleven months ago) link

NEW: Seven hours after her arrest, Nicola Sturgeon has been released by police without charge. pic.twitter.com/Y541IJImwu

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) June 11, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:01 (eleven months ago) link

IT'S ALMOST AS IF

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:02 (eleven months ago) link

LOCK HER UP

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

Last year I planned to take my own life. I saved up my antidepressants with a plan to overdose on them. I didn't tell anyone, my girlfriends found out and staged an intervention.
I reached out to my MP (and someone I consider a friend) @KirstySNP ahead of this debate. https://t.co/qS3GsFx9KI

— Heather Herbert (@HeatherHerbert_) June 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 10:47 (eleven months ago) link

Not sure where else to post this, but I am feeling a bit shat up about the attacks this morning: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-65887752

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 13:31 (eleven months ago) link

that, and another incredibly bleak and depressing child murder as a result of chronically under-funded and over-stretched social services, thank you Tory Britain

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 13:46 (eleven months ago) link

twitter was not a good place to try and find any accurate reports about the carnage in Nottingham this morning. I had to scroll past hundreds of grotesque idiots linking it with asylum seekers and the French attack from last week.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:14 (eleven months ago) link

The only time I can find on the news reports is 4am, which strikes me as a very poor choice of time to do terrorism, so I'd be surprised if it did turn out to be a 'terror attack'. I think Neil S is more likely to be correct.

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:59 (eleven months ago) link

also the judge that gave a 24 month sentence to someone with 3 kids, one of them disabled, in that abortion pill case is a total dick.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

I found the Nottingham incidents particularly difficult because:
a) my oldest friend died early this morning, very near to where one of the attacks occurred, and I was scared that the medical people were going to be delayed in reaching her (thankfully they weren’t).
b) someone else I know, who lives in the next street to where one of the attacks occurred, couldn’t sleep and took a night time walk down that very street, an hour before it all happened.
c) one of the streets that was sealed off was the same street where my oldest friend and I lived next door to each other, 40 years ago.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:48 (eleven months ago) link

sorry to hear that Mike, that's awful.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 06:27 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, horrible

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 09:30 (eleven months ago) link

Oh god, Mike, that's all terrible, I'm so sorry. In my friend group there was a lot of working out exactly where it all happened and who lived there and if everyone was alright yesterday, but that sounds so much more intense.

emil.y, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:05 (eleven months ago) link

It's horrible for you both. Horrible when the violence is so near. Sorry to hear it.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:18 (eleven months ago) link

My non-music job is as an informatics/analytics lead for a major London trust and I have seen many “AI” automation proposals. All of them have been staggeringly unworkable in almost every way, largely proposed by (albeit well-meaning) folk with no working knowledge of NHS data. https://t.co/qJyZVIomjg

— Phexioenesystems (@phxsys) June 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link

I'd like to see old Boris wriggle his way out of this one!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:24 (eleven months ago) link

well at least our next likely PM is not an unprincipled, lying, adulterous piece of human garbage, lol

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:29 (eleven months ago) link

Ouch, they've really done a number on the lying sack of shit.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:54 (eleven months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:06 (eleven months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:06 (eleven months ago) link

Boris Johnson
Liberal, nuanced, cautious: is this the real Boris Johnson?

the Graun had his number right from the start of his premiership

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:12 (eleven months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:19 (eleven months ago) link

lol

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:21 (eleven months ago) link

Jog on Jogson

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:29 (eleven months ago) link

An ok piece laying out our next crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/jun/15/drought-is-on-the-verge-of-becoming-the-next-pandemic

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:03 (eleven months ago) link

Pollster: 'Boris Johnson is more unpopular than Phillip Schofield or Xi Jinping'

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:50 (eleven months ago) link

he's history's greatest monster

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:56 (eleven months ago) link

Unless you're an equally conniving corrupt MP who is now free to act with impunity until the next time the press need a wicker man

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:57 (eleven months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Thursday, 15 June 2023 14:03 (eleven months ago) link

Corbyn on R4 PM today - first on Glenda Jackson, then on Johnson, then on Labour - was excellent. (Twitter thread)

“The meeting went silent, every body turned to stare at each other, and Glenda gave me the biggest wink you’d ever seen”

Former Labour leader, @jeremycorbyn , shares his fond memories of working with Glenda Jackson, who has passed away at age 87.#bbcpm pic.twitter.com/wqqT2WdrMb

— BBCPM (@BBCPM) June 15, 2023

mike t-diva, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:06 (eleven months ago) link

I listened to a GJ interview a few years ago and she was saying Corbyn shouldn't have been the leader because working class people who the Labour Party are supposed to serve are preternaturally a socially conservative bunch of people. Her politics were basically of that detestably condescending noblesse oblige variety of the Labour Right.

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link

...which makes JC's tribute all the more generous, and suggestive of a broader acceptance of differing views than he's generally given credit for.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:57 (eleven months ago) link

How dare Jambone Crumhorn say anything ever

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:11 (eleven months ago) link

he has consistently been very generous towards other party people like that, and it has rarely been reciprocated unless you could take a knife in the back as a friendly gesture. It's all very well being a nice guy, but they were going to destroy him even if he wasn't.

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:12 (eleven months ago) link

I was living in Primrose Hill with a bunch of Balearic ravers and club runners from a fairly infamous estate in South London and they did terrace chants of GLENDA IS OUR LEADER, OUR LEADER, OUR LEADER when she was elected, which was the only bit of levity in the 1992 election. They were classic ex-terrace hoolies who’d had epiphanies about violence and racism while on pills in Ibiza, and every single one of them hated Thatcher for destroying any cohesion in their community of origin (and the rest).

BTW Glenda Jackson also told anyone who asked that she did not consider Jeremy Corbyn to be antisemitic and that his advocacy for Palestinians was the cause of the accusations.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 16 June 2023 06:21 (eleven months ago) link

turd that won't flush transferred to new bowl

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyvnYv5WcAIMp4a?format=jpg&name=large

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2023 12:42 (eleven months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 16 June 2023 12:51 (eleven months ago) link

"-and it'll be required that we only say nice things about him from now on"

xpost obv

Mark G, Friday, 16 June 2023 14:29 (eleven months ago) link

thanks a lot Kieth. I dreamt about a Tory wipeout for the best part of a decade and now that it's probably imminent I don't even fucking care anymore.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:58 (one week ago) link

is that Sunak's or Starmer's election slogan?

― rob, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Do you know about this terrible song?

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, May 22, 2024 12:52 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I do not know that song, but fwiw I was joking that your post "Everything is going to get unimaginably stupider from now. No escape." was the slogan

rob, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:59 (one week ago) link

No Ian, don’t go on holidays, what will we do without your milquetoast takes dipped in smugness?!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:00 (one week ago) link

Ah ok lol xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:00 (one week ago) link

Anyway this is what we have to look forward to.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/22/labour-mp-rightwing-figurehead-enabled-anti-protest-clampdown

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:01 (one week ago) link

LOL @ Sunak's speech. What a shambles.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:03 (one week ago) link

classic Graun still implying that Woodcock was at some point "centre Left"

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:03 (one week ago) link

He went to a March as a kid

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:06 (one week ago) link

i don't know whether we should pitch for new thread titles or whether apathetically letting this one drag on would be more apposite

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:08 (one week ago) link

New thread imo for election madness & then new one for whatever government forms after that

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:09 (one week ago) link

Election called for the day before the Euros quarters, what a lift for Our Boys if Ed Davey ascends his rightful throne as is just and true

h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:10 (one week ago) link

Our long national nightmare is finally over. Our next long national nightmare is about to start.

— Gavin Jackson (@GavinHJackson) May 22, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:12 (one week ago) link

propose election thread title: "Everything changes but UK"

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:16 (one week ago) link

mind you i've just seen Kieth say "Stability is Change" which will take some beating

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:18 (one week ago) link

by the way

https://x.com/FromSteveHowell/status/1793327619716350248

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:20 (one week ago) link

I seem to remember another party leader who went into an election boring everybody to tears by droning on about stability.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:21 (one week ago) link

hung parliament because labour didn’t field enough dead-eyed childkiller cunts as candidates let’s fucking goooooo xp

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:22 (one week ago) link

NV suggestion the best so far

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:22 (one week ago) link

Forced to work in the rain unnecessarily?

Join a union. pic.twitter.com/yiq1jamHIT

— Trades Union Congress (@The_TUC) May 22, 2024

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:29 (one week ago) link

Absolutely baffled he did it in that rain.

Checking the new boundaries again and I guess it's been made even easier for me to not vote Labour now I see we're apparently losing Bell Riberio-Addy and getting Steve effing Reed.

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:33 (one week ago) link

(Ribeiro-Addy)

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:33 (one week ago) link

Tory ministers genuinely struggling to explain why an election has been called for July.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:35 (one week ago) link

as ever it will be a pleasure not to vote for Diana Johnson

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:35 (one week ago) link

(xp) This guy actually using the example of Corbyn performing better than expected in 2017!

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:37 (one week ago) link

"Things can only get wetter", but obv NV's suggestion is a thing which is better.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:38 (one week ago) link

Starmer is gonna choke like fuck as soon as he gets any pushback

this is absolutely locked in. it will be epic.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:48 (one week ago) link

wonder how long it’ll be before we find out what really happened with the deliveroo driver

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:49 (one week ago) link

i’m sure cctv footage of starmer enjoying a delicious beverage in the pub beforehand will mysteriously surface eventually

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:50 (one week ago) link

"..we've returned Labour to the party in service of working people..."

thanks for saving us from the anti-union, pro-zero hours poverty policies of the evil jam man.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 18:16 (one week ago) link

Asking the question.

Its 4th July, you live in rainy fash island..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 18:38 (one week ago) link

Just amazed that no umbrella was to be found when Sunak announced it...

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 19:57 (one week ago) link

Not a serious country

👀
Wow! Extraordinary but true - some furious Conservative MPs are tonight working on a plot to CALL OFF the general election by replacing Rishi Sunak as leader before Parliament is dissolved next Thursday.
One rebel Tory MP tells me he believes “several” more letters of no…

— Christopher Hope📝 (@christopherhope) May 22, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 21:39 (one week ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/aOWD1Xi.png

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:29 (one week ago) link

Ok ....

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:41 (one week ago) link

i hope they are able to remove sunak as pm asap because that seems like it gets really funny and stupid and is probably the best hope for the election not producing a one party state

ufo, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:05 (one week ago) link

new thread is this way -->

Stability is change: crossing the floor from potato to potahto in uk 2024

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:17 (one week ago) link

yeah but does the new thread have discount trainers?

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:19 (one week ago) link

that price is going to shoot right back up on july 5

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:20 (one week ago) link


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