“I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on

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the tories are flailing. Strong Colin Hunt vibes from the male "dancer".

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

wonder how long this video has been available to journalists who've chosen not to share it

i'm not particularly bothered by this party compared to the many government decisions which actually killed people during the pandemic, always interesting to see what's considered newsworthy and worthy of outrage showboating tho

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:19 (one year ago) link

I personally don't care either, but can understand why it's emotive to people who couldn't attend funerals or had family die alone and how UK media cynically publishes this stuff when it suits their agenda. Although saying that I detest funerals and would be happy to die alone, so perhaps I'm not normal!

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link

I'd like to believe that the Mirror sat on this for a period because they knew it would give people no motivation to obey the lockdown rules themselves if they saw this. But I think that's probably far too generous an interpretation. I'm also disgusted to read that apparently the Met knew this video existed but did nothing with it.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:33 (one year ago) link

that the UK govt flouts their own rules isn't really as shocking as them rolling out policies that causes hundreds of thousands of people to die miserable, squalid deaths. I was reminded by a program last week the the first WCA related suicide happened some time before the 2010 GE results came in. This is why any partisan stuff from The Mirror doesn't really work for me, because the people with blood on their hands will likely be ministers in the next Labour govt.

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

Another Con MP quits, another byelection.

the pinefox, Sunday, 18 June 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link

the complaints about him are malicious says the Tory MP who admitted he was sniffing cocaine and drinking "incredibly potent" Japanese whisky

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link

I like the BBC headline “I’ll expose my children to homelessness - William”. Not a practice that’s unknown to royal types, not sure people will approve nowadays .

a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Sunday, 18 June 2023 13:15 (one year ago) link

The prince also revealed when asked there are "absolutely" plans for social housing on the Duchy of Cornwall - the estate given to the heir of the throne, which provides him with an income.

great, another little Poundbury style model village from one of these parasitic fuckwits. So entitled and up his own arsehole he thinks becoming a landlord is an altruistic act.

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

Can I defect from the UK to go and talk about this on North Korean podcastshttps://t.co/26JPnOes6k pic.twitter.com/JUp8zVBx8N

— Alice Podcasts (@AliceAvizandum) June 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

let’s fuckin go babey, mad max by 2035 or gtfo

Another pledge broken pic.twitter.com/iv6DlsgEyr

— j (@jrc1921) June 18, 2023

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

NEW: Church of England clergy, represented by @unitetheunion, have for the first time in their history submitted a formal pay claim, as members struggle with the cost of living.

Vicars call for a 9.5% pay rise. Unite says the Church of England has billions in the bank & can pay.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) June 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link

for god and ulster

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2023 09:57 (one year ago) link

EXC: Schools trans guidance revealed - with @NatashaC

- No pronoun or uniform change without parental consent

- No hiding changes from parents

- Head can say no to protect other kids

- Competitive sport protected - gender questioning pupils bannedhttps://t.co/HYhcApyhR7

— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) June 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

Tories are in massive trouble and it looks like Sunak has chosen to lash out at trans/non-binary people. Horrible.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link

Probably because you can't get away with open homophobia nowadays, so they choose the next marginal group down the list. Not helped by all the smug JKR-type transphobes slowly but surely pivoting to the far right!

darts macabre (Matt #2), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link

Absolute depressing filth, what else is there to be said?

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link

i'd say the increasing screeching about Pride covers getting away with open homophobia, albeit this has been enabled by transphobic legitimate concerners all the way

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link

i've worked with trans kids in the past and some of them need protection from their parents, not subjection to their whims

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link

good to see government concerned about the sanctity of competitive sports in schools, because teens have been so well served by existing opportunities

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/mar/07/uk-girls-lose-interest-in-sport-as-teenagers-women-in-sport-survey

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link

Probably teach them to be better at evading authority, if anything. But yeah they’ve been going hard for Gillick for a while now and nobody in the press gives a fuck about it cos pRoNoUnS

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:41 (one year ago) link

there are thousands of young people, not just trans kids but obviously including them, for whom school is a refuge from the fuckery of their home lives. obviously this needs to be stopped

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link

Mis-gendering is widespread irrespective of parental awareness and acceptance and not sure what kids can do about staff or peers not respecting their wish about pretty much anything. On uniform I suppose this is to some extent also about 'protecting' centuries of related bullshit like girls not allowed to wear trousers.

'No hiding changes from parents' is gibberish or maybe implies school staff are expected to snoop and ask parents if they know their kid has 'changed' in some way that might not be obvious to them but sounds (intentionally?) unworkable.

nashwan, Monday, 19 June 2023 11:59 (one year ago) link

It seems parents are a bit like the market, they know best.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Monday, 19 June 2023 12:07 (one year ago) link

There's an article a few days ago in noted left-wing rag the Daily Mail where the Chief Rabbi points out that "schools must tell parents" is an enormous safeguarding failure.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 19 June 2023 12:38 (one year ago) link

He's still gonna vote Tory tho

nashwan, Monday, 19 June 2023 12:40 (one year ago) link

child liberation now

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 19 June 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link

parents are inherently reactionary as a political bloc and anything that empowers them abuses children by design

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 19 June 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link

when I was 17 my stepdad threw me out the house for two nights upon learning of my homosexuality. I was lucky to have friends whose parents welcomed me in with open arms and didn't have any issue with it, and I went home on the condition that it was to be kept secret and not mentioned in case anyone else was embarassed by it. I only ever thought of myself as "lucky" in the few years after that, because my perspective was that it could have been (and I expected it to be) a lot worse, and it's only when I got I realised that actually, it was just shit and not something to ever forgive.

This is worse than Section 28, because Section 28 didn't come with a mandate to out me to my parents. If a teacher had told my stepdad there was a whiff of gayness about me I can only imagine how difficult my life would have become.

boxedjoy, Monday, 19 June 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the idea they could "nip it in the bud" right?

Mark G, Monday, 19 June 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link

Probably because you can't get away with open homophobia nowadays, so they choose the next marginal group down the list.

This is the dynamic in the U.S., without a doubt.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 19 June 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link

It will be easy to fuck Starmer over bcz he won't have great answers to these. Johnson is a liar but he proved he could get Brexit over the line. What can Starmer offer?

OTOH we might be in a recession by then.

One frontbencher says a current online video of Starmer’s flip-flops is a taste of things to come.

"The general election campaign is going to be full of videos of Keir, ‘he said this, now he’s says that’.”pic.twitter.com/BK0IO7DkRC

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) April 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link

the election campaigns, when they come, are likely to reflect badly on Sunak and Kieth because they're both terrible politicians (never mind terrible people). i can't see any result hinging on that, so it'll come down to the perceived state of the economy come the time, and the narrative that the media spin on that. anything Labour says between now and then will be focused on trying to keep the press onside

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

otm

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

If only more people were like Waterstones Dad. I think my (popular nonfiction) book is a story of what happens when people decide that someone is a social problem for reading too much Steven Pinker. https://t.co/Y6SA4aNvRq

— Daniel Finkelstein (@Dannythefink) June 21, 2023

that 'Waterstones Dad' article doesn't seem like much more than low-effort reheated 2017 centrist dad discourse, but I think it's justifies its existence by prompting this insane tweet (Finkelstein's book is about how members of his family were persecuted in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia btw)

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

What’s this post got to do with anything

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link

anything Labour says between now and then will be focused on trying to keep the press onside

― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Saw a post on twitter saying it's widely believed the Times will go for Labour but it's not the win that it might've been in the mid-90s.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed the new centrist dad or w/e article a great deal, however this was 95% because it's in the new statesman and describes their own readers.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

How is this different from £50 FOPP man?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link

xp: it was also a copy of a years old joke tweet

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

What’s this post got to do with anything

― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

why do you talk to everyone here like you're their line manager doing a performance review?

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

xp sorry for posting a question on a thread

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

As a renter this country is far more interested in houses. They are more likely to have families, people in full-time work or the retired who have paid into the system.

The way people talk about the mortgage crisis compared to the rental crisis is so revealing. (Full disclosure: I have a mortgage)

Mortgage crisis: talk of the horrors of costs going up by hundreds of £ a month and the threat of people "losing their homes". Rental crisis: silence

— Rachel Cunliffe (@RMCunliffe) June 22, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

I only click on New Statesman articles because I actively enjoy the way it just fades into white after a few lines.

nashwan, Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

"I read it for the article limits"

Alba, Thursday, 22 June 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

🚨BREAKING: Junior doctors in England to escalate strike action.

Five-day strike from Thursday 13th July to Tuesday 18th July.

This will be the longest single period of industrial action in the history of the NHS.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) June 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

Also three day rail strike

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

worth pointing out that this is not going to reduce the pain at all. people notoriously prioritise mortgages over all other bills; someone who is skipping mortgage payments will have cut consumption to the bone https://t.co/HNG3O4XY3P

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) June 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

Long enough to cover the next election campaign of course

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 23 June 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link


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