“I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on

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the election campaigns, when they come, are likely to reflect badly on Sunak and Kieth because they're both terrible politicians (never mind terrible people). i can't see any result hinging on that, so it'll come down to the perceived state of the economy come the time, and the narrative that the media spin on that. anything Labour says between now and then will be focused on trying to keep the press onside

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

otm

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

If only more people were like Waterstones Dad. I think my (popular nonfiction) book is a story of what happens when people decide that someone is a social problem for reading too much Steven Pinker. https://t.co/Y6SA4aNvRq

— Daniel Finkelstein (@Dannythefink) June 21, 2023

that 'Waterstones Dad' article doesn't seem like much more than low-effort reheated 2017 centrist dad discourse, but I think it's justifies its existence by prompting this insane tweet (Finkelstein's book is about how members of his family were persecuted in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia btw)

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

What’s this post got to do with anything

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link

anything Labour says between now and then will be focused on trying to keep the press onside

― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Saw a post on twitter saying it's widely believed the Times will go for Labour but it's not the win that it might've been in the mid-90s.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed the new centrist dad or w/e article a great deal, however this was 95% because it's in the new statesman and describes their own readers.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

How is this different from £50 FOPP man?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link

xp: it was also a copy of a years old joke tweet

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

What’s this post got to do with anything

― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

why do you talk to everyone here like you're their line manager doing a performance review?

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

xp sorry for posting a question on a thread

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

As a renter this country is far more interested in houses. They are more likely to have families, people in full-time work or the retired who have paid into the system.

The way people talk about the mortgage crisis compared to the rental crisis is so revealing. (Full disclosure: I have a mortgage)

Mortgage crisis: talk of the horrors of costs going up by hundreds of £ a month and the threat of people "losing their homes". Rental crisis: silence

— Rachel Cunliffe (@RMCunliffe) June 22, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

I only click on New Statesman articles because I actively enjoy the way it just fades into white after a few lines.

nashwan, Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

"I read it for the article limits"

Alba, Thursday, 22 June 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

🚨BREAKING: Junior doctors in England to escalate strike action.

Five-day strike from Thursday 13th July to Tuesday 18th July.

This will be the longest single period of industrial action in the history of the NHS.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) June 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

Also three day rail strike

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

worth pointing out that this is not going to reduce the pain at all. people notoriously prioritise mortgages over all other bills; someone who is skipping mortgage payments will have cut consumption to the bone https://t.co/HNG3O4XY3P

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) June 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

Long enough to cover the next election campaign of course

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 23 June 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

The chief secretary to the treasury when we fell into our biggest financial crash post war, and the asshole who dug us into an even bigger hole by slashing govt spending after that crash want to give us lectures on economics? Like taking medical lectures off Shipman. https://t.co/BVq17bdOcE

— Chris Corney (@ChrisCorney1) June 29, 2023

seriously, these two ghouls should be sent on an enforced mariana trench trip in a carbon fiber submersible for all the damage they've done. A podcast for non-sentient economy thinktank molluscs, not for human beings who have had to live with the damage caused by these cunts.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 08:16 (one year ago) link

if a meteor has to crash into a podcast studio then I can't think of a better one.

will be interesting to see which supposedly centre-left "tory-hating" commentators express any kind of objection to this.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 June 2023 08:29 (one year ago) link

they could have called it "FAILING UP" maybe then somebody would listen

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 08:44 (one year ago) link

I'm just trying to think about what they'd politically disagree on, possibly Trump would be a dividing line and that's probably about it.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:08 (one year ago) link

Rwanda asylum plan ruled unlawful... again.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

... by Court of Appeal this time.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:15 (one year ago) link

I'm just trying to think about what they'd politically disagree on, possibly Trump would be a dividing line and that's probably about it.

Osborne would want the NHS to be entirely privatized (and his mates get all the money), Balls would want there to be a public-private partnership (in which Osborne's mates get all the money).

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:31 (one year ago) link

the ideological differences of the UK political spectrum laid bare

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

Balls thinks Osborne's titanium tax doesn't go too far enough

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link

I'm learning about grown up economics from the UK media commentariat today. It's bad for water companies to be nationalised because the taxpayer foots the bill and it requires govts to borrow heavily for infrastructure investment. It's good for water companies to borrow heavily/increase bills/cut infrastructure investment so they can pay £72 billion in shareholder dividends, because at least it doesn't require govt funding. That is until the hollowed out, heavily leveraged shell of the water company has run completely dry.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:08 (one year ago) link

Usually my TheyWorkForYou e-mails show a clean record of Abbott voting on the losing side of every vote, but today I was surprised that she voted yes on something that went through - apparently a bill allowing the Secretary of State to use funds to build a memorial in rememberance of the holocaust, as well as an associated learning centre. 10 votes against, by the way - 9 tories and one DUP.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:48 (one year ago) link

for a second there I thought you meant she'd voted against it!

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:52 (one year ago) link

surprisingly despite the shameful anti-semitism that holds hegemony over the labour left they all voted for it

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:58 (one year ago) link

Dead on arrival.

I wrote for the @NewStatesman about the lessons Keir Starmer should learn if he wants to avoid ending up like François Hollandehttps://t.co/N8PTorFm5X

— David Klemperer (@dmk1793) June 29, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link

Not reading that but in reply to the URL…. so_gonna_happen

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:46 (one year ago) link

lol sorry i mean tweet, not URL but what’s the d’urgence these days

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:46 (one year ago) link

Yeah not reading it either

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link

Does that mean we get our own Macron after Starmer. And our own Let Pen after that.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

I don't know a lot about French politics, but my understanding was that hollande was elected with high expectations on a fairly left wing platform and then jettisoned many of his policy commitments and shifted to the right, starmer seems like he's making sure to disappoint everyone before he's actually elected

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link

Britain's most racist professor reckons Sunak not getting what he wants is good for Sunak actually

And are 'the British people' in the room with us now pic.twitter.com/uF1T7EfqLj

— Jeremy Noel-Tod (@jntod) June 29, 2023

nashwan, Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:00 (one year ago) link

every Goodwin treat can be reduced to 14 words

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

hollande also famously was the actual President of France, triumphantly beating Sarkozy, and then decided not to seek re-election when his personal popularity had somewhat declined to.... 4%

his party now holds 27 of 577 seats in the national assembly

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

Oh dear Zak has resigned, and obv takes the high ground

Mark G, Friday, 30 June 2023 09:29 (eleven months ago) link

He runnin for London mayor again or something

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 09:38 (eleven months ago) link

Interesting as to why the Spanish government is set to lose elections next month:

Here are actual “hard choices” being implemented- the Spanish govt standing up to energy companies, landlords & business profiteering for the benefit of the people. When UK politicians invoke “hard choices” they means screwing the people for landlords, business and profiteers. https://t.co/SjpZAfzrh3

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) June 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 09:47 (eleven months ago) link

"Anything to drink, Mr Kawczynski?"
"I'll have a glass of wine and gottle o' geer for the PM".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2023/06/29/TELEMMGLPICT000341003652_16880458823200_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqaEUq9GYqankD6q6yihpLUBfkVGkvNq4T0Te3y8rlrgc.jpeg

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 30 June 2023 09:51 (eleven months ago) link

xp ya unfortunately that's bad politics as majority of people want to be screwed lol

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 10:14 (eleven months ago) link

if you're not permanently worse off and miserable is it even grownup politics?

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 10:19 (eleven months ago) link

it's more mature and serious to vote for a govt of corrupt lackeys that run down all public services and is a mere client of the financial markets, lol just the way it is I'm afraid.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 10:38 (eleven months ago) link

Hilariously, it seems like Labour has now expelled Neal Lawson, head of soft-left thinktank Compass, for the heinous crime of describing cross-party co-operation scheme in Oxfordshire as "grown-up politics".

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:08 (eleven months ago) link

don't talk about any of the Scottish Labour/Conservative council shenanigans that have been going on then. That will definitely get you booted out of the party as well.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:17 (eleven months ago) link


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