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I think they actually delayed the first season of 24 a couple of months because 9/11 had just happened.

The pilot episode involves a plane getting hijacked and blown up IIRC so yeah, it was delayed.

Lmao thank you Tracer

The other scene that justifies 24’s existence is the beginning of the second season where Jack straight up murders a suspect in custody so he can deliver the dude’s severed head to a terrorist as part of his cover story, just absolutely ridiculous stuff

he gets results

THERE’S NO TIME (commits war crime) GET KIM TO SAFETY (commits another war crime, murders love interest)

I like how he begins each season brooding over the events of the previous season and then immediately snaps back into war crimes mode

His default setting is to commit atrocities and be sad, sometime simultaneously

I think you might like Azor if you haven't seen it.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:16 (yesterday)

brilliant movie, probably due a rewatch.

To be fair, there aren't a lot of movies or TV shows where the plot is "everyone is sensible and makes lots of good decisions."

I once tried to write a spec script where the premise was "here is a show where the main characters are well-intentioned, and make utterly no bad decisions ever."

There's a reason you haven't heard of it.

Odd, since so many shows are Competency Porn--i.e. this person is the greatest Doctor/Hacker/Lawyer/Detective etc., though of course you need a bunch of idiots standing around them to make it interesting.

Lol, otm.

I think that was Roddenberry's edict on TNG and the producers and writers rebelled (DS9 is explicitly a rebuke against "In the future all humans are well-adjusted and make great decisions") until eventually they were making torture porn like 24 and Enterprise.

speaking of competency porn and ott action and bad ideas i was watching some dry cop procedural and i thought of a bela tarr-like epic movie where there is an insane hong kong/john wick ultraviolent battle at the beginning which ends with about a zillion henchmen hacked and shot to death. that's the first ten minutes and 3/4 of the budget. the next 7 hours and 50 minutes is nothing but the cops identifying all the henchmen and calling their next of kin and making arrangements for the bodies to be shipped to families around the world.

i am the worst scenario writer.

John Wick, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles

For years I've wanted to write a novel where the characters are basically Brett and Parker from Alien, except nothing exciting happens, they're just banging around in the basement of their spaceship, bitching about their co-workers and why they deserve a raise.

poor communication skills is basically the root of 90% of all TV drama. misunderstandings that can be easily explained except for the fact that the misunderstood character allows the one who's misunderstanding to leave the room in a huff, then remains in the room looking sad and not explaining themselves (cue six more episodes until the resultant drama paste is resolved.) it's one of the most annoying things.

24 is just an insane show of course, i'm not sure anyone escaped alive. they really did do the female characters dirty. poor audrey raines, michelle dessler, whoever michelle forbes played, jack's wife, jack's mistress, whoever annie wersching played, david palmer's wife, shohreh aghdashloo etc etc

yeah, but what about Tony?

i never really watched 24. i wasn't a big kiefer fan. it was a clever idea obviously. during plague i debated watching 24 or alias. i'd never really watched either much.

one thing about 24 was that it was, beyond the CTU sets, a pretty cheap-looking show. the fate of the world hinging on a lot of action taking place on deserted suburban streets and in empty warehouses.

it was cheap and awful but somehow it just kept you fuckin hooked. in some ways it reminds me of Line Of Duty. just when you thought it couldn't get more insane, it would go so much further.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ixMMj6IPhVA/U1gb9d_RUpI/AAAAAAAAFfo/MtDCAipKeE0/s1600/24+13.jpg

i enjoyed queen of the south on netflix and i noticed that they had the original la reina del sur and boy oh boy here i thought queen of the south was crazy! i don't really watch telenovelas but maybe i should. not that i will ever watch every episode of la reina del sur.

some of us have……

@mark s

misunderstandings that can be easily explained except for the fact that the misunderstood character allows the one who's misunderstanding to leave the room in a huff,

Big pet peeve of mine. I also hate when someone’s like, “Mom, I need to tell you something—”; and the mom cuts her off, “Oh good, I need to tell you something…” and that cuts off the revelation that would have resolved everything.

For years I've wanted to write a novel where the characters are basically Brett and Parker from Alien, except nothing exciting happens, they're just banging around in the basement of their spaceship, bitching about their co-workers and why they deserve a raise.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, June 28, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I've always wanted to write sci-fi book about the crew of starship traversing the galaxy in search of life beyond earth... and they never, ever find any.

Boldly going where no man has gone before... and collecting space dust.

Feels to me as if such a book has already been written

Feels to me as if such a book has already been written

― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, June 29, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I’d read it! (Since I’ll never write it)

Ooh looks like both seasons of Yellowjackets just showed up on Paramount - good news since I don’t subscribe to Showtime.

― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, June 28, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I didn’t realize this when I posted yesterday but apparently Showtime is now fully included with Paramount+, for no extra fees.

There are loads and loads of shows I wrote off long ago because I never had any intention of paying for yet one more service. Now I guess I need to figure out what I’ve been missing!

Price is actually increasing to $11.99/month.

Out of curiosity, does Paramount have Kidding on there, or is that (fantastic) show still consigned to the void?

I've always wanted to write sci-fi book about the crew of starship traversing the galaxy in search of life beyond earth... and they never, ever find any.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Beyond_the_Stars

Quite a twist there at the very end...

i read this cool jack mcdevitt book and earth-people find this massive ship and all this cool stuff on it and then they discover that its basically a museum and every culture represented on it - including the makers of the ship - have been long gone for millions of years. he's also good at writing books about dead planets. in his future there WAS stuff and people can get to it but its all long dead.

Quite a twist there at the very end...

yes, it was very well written and was honestly one of the best twists I've ever encountered.

I encourage everyone to actually read that book (it's very good!) rather than the wikipedia synopsis (also good, but lacks depth)

That plot reads a bit like Le Guin's novella "Paradises Lost".

Just reading about the author of that book, a gay SF writer (when the genre was not exactly welcoming) and Harvey Milk speechwriter, sounds like an interesting guy!

my kid told me i had to see 90s japanese film Picnic on Youtube. i guess its only on Youtube. i was dubious but i shouldn't have been. cool movie. even looked pretty good on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hun1aNDtZYk

It's on DVD, blu-ray, many pirate sites, and seems to have been on Mubi previously.

O dear god why do you do this?

God is a concept

None of those things, except for Mubi which Sic expressly notes IT'S NOT ON, is a streaming service.

It was possibly shown a theatre too, in the 1990s.

How is a bootleg on youtube any more “on a streaming service” than a bootleg on filmups.se?

It was available at the swap meet for awhile too

“When I watch movies uploaded illegally by a Brazilian teenager, it counts as official, because REPLY HAZY, TRY AGAIN. When you watch movies uploaded illegally by a Brazilian teenager to a different website, then the file doesn’t even exist, because BETTER NOT TELL YOU NOW.”

“If the rights-holders of any piece of copyrighted material do not have a license agreement in place that takes effect the immediate second that a previous agreement concludes, then you personally are free to print-on-demand and give it away to anyone. This is how publishing works.”

OK, Clippy

Great episode of the Pure Cinema podcast where Tarantino goes full film professor for 4 1/2 hours about full movies that can be found on YouTube because of none/mysterious rights issues. Some great movies I wasn't familiar with...