“I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on

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I'm just trying to think about what they'd politically disagree on, possibly Trump would be a dividing line and that's probably about it.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:08 (one year ago) link

Rwanda asylum plan ruled unlawful... again.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

... by Court of Appeal this time.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:15 (one year ago) link

I'm just trying to think about what they'd politically disagree on, possibly Trump would be a dividing line and that's probably about it.

Osborne would want the NHS to be entirely privatized (and his mates get all the money), Balls would want there to be a public-private partnership (in which Osborne's mates get all the money).

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:31 (one year ago) link

the ideological differences of the UK political spectrum laid bare

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

Balls thinks Osborne's titanium tax doesn't go too far enough

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link

I'm learning about grown up economics from the UK media commentariat today. It's bad for water companies to be nationalised because the taxpayer foots the bill and it requires govts to borrow heavily for infrastructure investment. It's good for water companies to borrow heavily/increase bills/cut infrastructure investment so they can pay £72 billion in shareholder dividends, because at least it doesn't require govt funding. That is until the hollowed out, heavily leveraged shell of the water company has run completely dry.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:08 (one year ago) link

Usually my TheyWorkForYou e-mails show a clean record of Abbott voting on the losing side of every vote, but today I was surprised that she voted yes on something that went through - apparently a bill allowing the Secretary of State to use funds to build a memorial in rememberance of the holocaust, as well as an associated learning centre. 10 votes against, by the way - 9 tories and one DUP.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:48 (one year ago) link

for a second there I thought you meant she'd voted against it!

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:52 (one year ago) link

surprisingly despite the shameful anti-semitism that holds hegemony over the labour left they all voted for it

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:58 (one year ago) link

Dead on arrival.

I wrote for the @NewStatesman about the lessons Keir Starmer should learn if he wants to avoid ending up like François Hollandehttps://t.co/N8PTorFm5X

— David Klemperer (@dmk1793) June 29, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link

Not reading that but in reply to the URL…. so_gonna_happen

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:46 (one year ago) link

lol sorry i mean tweet, not URL but what’s the d’urgence these days

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:46 (one year ago) link

Yeah not reading it either

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link

Does that mean we get our own Macron after Starmer. And our own Let Pen after that.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

I don't know a lot about French politics, but my understanding was that hollande was elected with high expectations on a fairly left wing platform and then jettisoned many of his policy commitments and shifted to the right, starmer seems like he's making sure to disappoint everyone before he's actually elected

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link

Britain's most racist professor reckons Sunak not getting what he wants is good for Sunak actually

And are 'the British people' in the room with us now pic.twitter.com/uF1T7EfqLj

— Jeremy Noel-Tod (@jntod) June 29, 2023

nashwan, Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:00 (one year ago) link

every Goodwin treat can be reduced to 14 words

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

hollande also famously was the actual President of France, triumphantly beating Sarkozy, and then decided not to seek re-election when his personal popularity had somewhat declined to.... 4%

his party now holds 27 of 577 seats in the national assembly

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

Oh dear Zak has resigned, and obv takes the high ground

Mark G, Friday, 30 June 2023 09:29 (one year ago) link

He runnin for London mayor again or something

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 09:38 (one year ago) link

Interesting as to why the Spanish government is set to lose elections next month:

Here are actual “hard choices” being implemented- the Spanish govt standing up to energy companies, landlords & business profiteering for the benefit of the people. When UK politicians invoke “hard choices” they means screwing the people for landlords, business and profiteers. https://t.co/SjpZAfzrh3

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) June 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 09:47 (one year ago) link

xp ya unfortunately that's bad politics as majority of people want to be screwed lol

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 10:14 (one year ago) link

if you're not permanently worse off and miserable is it even grownup politics?

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link

it's more mature and serious to vote for a govt of corrupt lackeys that run down all public services and is a mere client of the financial markets, lol just the way it is I'm afraid.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link

Hilariously, it seems like Labour has now expelled Neal Lawson, head of soft-left thinktank Compass, for the heinous crime of describing cross-party co-operation scheme in Oxfordshire as "grown-up politics".

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:08 (one year ago) link

don't talk about any of the Scottish Labour/Conservative council shenanigans that have been going on then. That will definitely get you booted out of the party as well.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

xp ya unfortunately that's bad politics as majority of people want to be screwed lol

― the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Lool we probably need a bit more info before coming to that conclusion. Not everywhere is England.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

Only really pay attention to foreign politics to extent necessary to confirm my pre-existing prejudices tbrr

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link

Lol

I think of the support I gave Keir Starmer, personally, publicly, to win the leadership, when he absolutely knew I held these views that are apparently now anathema to the Labour Project. I thought I was too old to be disappointed in a politician.

— @zoesqwilli✧✧✧@min✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧ (@zoesqwilliams) June 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link

This is a hell of a story. Besides being presumably completely illegal, they thought it would be a good idea to invite *checks notes* WIll Hutton??

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/secret-email-severn-trent-boss-070627641.html

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link

Hilarious how Liz Truss has kept being blamed. Only 40 days as PM.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link

that Zoe Williams tweet is so delicious i think i've put on more weight

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link

lol it’s true

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

Muahaha! Three years into the biggest Labour Right led factional purge of members since the Kinnock years and Zoe isn't playing anymore because they've gone after one of her soft-left drinking buddies.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

I don’t say this lightly, but if Starmer, or anyone from his frontbench team who have remained silent as Labour has thrown LGBTQ+ people under the bus, show up at #LondonPride they deserve to be heckled.

They’re taking the votes of queer people for granted. https://t.co/obp9oqirH2

— Alex Feis-Bryce (@Alex_FeisBryce) June 30, 2023

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

making these people unwelcome wherever they go is praxis

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

because I never let anything go and I'm a dickhead - I just can't help remembering when OJ and ZW were both urging Corbyn to step down as leader. It seemed quite obvious at the time that any of the other leadership front runners would be at least as terrible as Starmer is. It sounds like OJ might have learned something in the intervening years since but ZW is an incorrigible graun brained melt.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

it's warming up nicely

Of course Labour can't possibly eject Neal Lawson of Compass for a 2-year-old tweet of great good sense. Even to threaten risks stirring a mighty rebellion - and not by the usual suspects. The majority of the members voted for proportional representation! Sack the lot?

— Polly Toynbee (@pollytoynbee) June 30, 2023

and this shows pretty clearly that it's not about political differences, it's about cliques and cronies

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link

Labour can’t possibly be dismissive of its own membership’s concerns

Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

"a mighty rebellion" heh! classic Toynbee

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

i assume she's asked to speak to the manager

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

Just something to think there would be a rebellion over...Neal from er, Compass.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

transport and tax incentives are no substitute for a development plan. (also - you could have put a tram system in every British town over 500k population for the money spent on this white elephant) https://t.co/vDcE3Ml69B

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) July 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 July 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link

some say the IRA's own development plan for CW was a wicked act, but think of the long term benefits if they had used a more powerful bomb!

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

the Jess Phillips vs Katharine Birbalsingh twitter beef is way too grim to pick a side, but Phillips actually comes out of it looking the biggest arsehole as usual. Birbalsingh has wrote a tldr letter of complaint to Kieth about the incident in which she alleges Babs has unconscious bias issues with black people on the conservative end of the pol spectrum. Probably not correct because Abbott is not a conservative and Phillips had issues with her as well for shome mysterious reason

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

one of those arguments where you hope they both lose

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link

losing is the bare minimum i wish for them

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link


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