“I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on

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when your props aren't supposed to talk back

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:49 (eleven months ago) link

“Wish I could tase you, bro”

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:55 (eleven months ago) link

"which side are the labour party on?"

"we are on the side of economic growth"

conrad, Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:05 (eleven months ago) link

"thank you very much, thaaaank you very much, thaaank you very much, thaaank you"

polite!

conrad, Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:07 (eleven months ago) link

Starmer says, if Labour takes power, it will inherit an economy that is badly damaged. It won’t be like 1997, he says.

I guess when you're *double digits* ahead you can aim this low.

nashwan, Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:10 (eleven months ago) link

i wonder if any previous Labour governments took over a fucked economy and achieved anything

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:32 (eleven months ago) link

“We can’t do anything good because of the mess we inherited from the previous lot” is 2010 Tory austerity chat, literally the exact same line. I don’t know how much more evidence anyone needs of the cunt continuity we’re saddled with whatever happens at the GE but some ppl love to get their wallets inspected

Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:25 (eleven months ago) link

Due to rate rises and gilt market stuff there probably is a lot of pressure on what the chancellor/Treasury can do. Even if we had an anti-austerity chancellor it might've been difficult.

Though there are things government can do to alleviate poverty and we could put in rent controls.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:40 (eleven months ago) link

tough on poverty, tough on people in poverty

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:49 (eleven months ago) link

lmao

vexingvexillologist, Thursday, 6 July 2023 13:26 (eleven months ago) link

Found a better video :)

Sir Keir Starmer's major education speech is disrupted by climate protesters who ask him if he'll reinstate Labour's pledge to commit £28bn to tackling climate change pic.twitter.com/2OlSYwIP1c

— ITV News Politics (@ITVNewsPolitics) July 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 14:21 (eleven months ago) link

God what a cunt. Good on them

Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:48 (eleven months ago) link

Cannot get over the repeated 'thank you v much'. What a fucking piece of cardboard.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 16:31 (eleven months ago) link

Because Luke’s been telling everyone what happened that night in 2019. With you and that girl in a toilet cubicle. That girl who couldn’t even stand up. Remember her?

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:46 (eleven months ago) link

How about that little girl in Bruton you came across that night? Remember that? Did you know she’d only just turned 16? How old were you then, George, 49?

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:48 (eleven months ago) link

Bumped his own thread but i had no idea that MF Doom's death was an NHS fuck-up or that he had died in Leeds:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/06/leeds-hospital-trust-apologises-after-rapper-mf-doom-died-in-its-care?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

NickB, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, I had no idea that he died in Leeds as well

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:54 (eleven months ago) link

Wow.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:59 (eleven months ago) link

actually flashing back here. I think I remember being surprised that he had died in Leeds at the time when it was mentioned in various obits, but had completely forgotten this.

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:03 (eleven months ago) link

i just remember his death was announced quite a while after he'd passed away

NickB, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:05 (eleven months ago) link

oh yeah, that as well

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:12 (eleven months ago) link

itv just covered starmer speech without mentioning the protest at all

koogs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:19 (eleven months ago) link

despite the video upthread being from itv Twitter

koogs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:20 (eleven months ago) link

not sure if I can share it directly on here, but this tweet has a link to the George Osborne email people are talking about this morning

George Osborne is a political piece of shit, sure, but a part of the email that I've not seen a single comment on yet is the rape accusation on line 56

A girl who "[can't] even stand up" can't consenthttps://t.co/doxnwdpWFx

— Seph Hallow (@SephHallow) July 7, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 July 2023 06:53 (eleven months ago) link

I've got no idea what's going on here but my mind is somewhat blown by George Osborne being only 52.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 07:11 (eleven months ago) link

it's an anonymous email sent to all the guests at his wedding + apparently everyone in tory politics & the media. so gossip about an utter cunt circulated among a load of other cunts. however does contain some very serious allegations and probably the best shot he has at any consequences for his crimes

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 July 2023 07:25 (eleven months ago) link

The communist revolution in 2035 is another chance.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 07:29 (eleven months ago) link

Osborne is a very bad man but god the style of that email, couldn't finish it

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 July 2023 07:40 (eleven months ago) link

Ditto.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 09:12 (eleven months ago) link

teachers retire early because of Ofsted, a teacher even killed herself because of Ofsted. The inspectors usually don’t have a clue about teaching. Absolutely insane this. What a way to get literally every single teacher out on the picket line https://t.co/rud3gHE1Ss

— tom (@tomrade_) July 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 09:56 (eleven months ago) link

Ofsted, like means testing, is at the core of right wing Labour DNA. it's all about the managerialism, bureaucracy, "playing by the rules", respectability. this whole insulting speaking lessons so poor kids can pass as middle class. when Labourites talk about aspiration what they mean is everybody should aspire to join the bourgeoisie, and if you don't then you can be happily ignored and left to your service jobs, serving the aspirational well-spoken real people

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 July 2023 10:55 (eleven months ago) link

and the education system that offers nothing except prepping tools for their appropriate slot in the workforce isn't wrong-headed, it just needs MORE utilitarianism, more league tables, more outcomes, more numbers

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 July 2023 10:57 (eleven months ago) link

once my year 6 son finished his SATs suddenly school was such a happier place, teachers taught what they wanted, kids were suddenly engaged and interested

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:06 (eleven months ago) link

I had an Ofsted inspector on the phone earlier. My son has been selected as a sample student to observe at the SEND college he attends. When the college have been crap I've been quick to let them know about it, but they are doing a great job now. Still I'd never say anything negative or critical about the college to an inspector, that would be nasty. The poor staff have had them in since yesterday now and all seem on high levels of stressed outness.

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:15 (eleven months ago) link

I just typed a long post about our last Ofsted inspection but eh, what's the point? The whole process is cunty, for all involved. I could be generous and say some of the outcomes were positive but the way it's delivered is so ugly. Anyone who has been in contact with the process is scarred by it. Why does no one listen to this?

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Friday, 7 July 2023 11:36 (eleven months ago) link

Obviously what we need is four times as many Ofsted inspections.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 11:55 (eleven months ago) link

this is entirely with Starmer’s annoying middle manager character sheet

“senior leadership feel the business will operate better if we have 4 performance reviews per year”

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:59 (eleven months ago) link

IN KEEPING with

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:59 (eleven months ago) link

Scottish government wants drug possession to be legalhttps://t.co/XZQxyfOfoN

— BBC Scotland News (@BBCScotlandNews) July 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 12:25 (eleven months ago) link

a rational and necessary legal change that will no doubt be met with thoughtful discussion from the other parties and the media

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 July 2023 12:56 (eleven months ago) link

> speaking lessons so poor kids can pass as middle class.

what if they use their new found assertiveness to point out your own hypocrisy at u-turns in eco promises?

koogs, Friday, 7 July 2023 14:18 (eleven months ago) link

You will be thanked for your contribution to the debate ofc

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 14:50 (eleven months ago) link

i was gonna say "oratory" instead of "speaking lessons" but i suspect that what's proposed isn't anything as sophisticated as oratory, it will literally be "being appropriate at work"

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 July 2023 15:02 (eleven months ago) link

The speech equivalent of covering up your tattoos (if they're not hands or face)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 July 2023 16:39 (eleven months ago) link

Feeling despair and hopelessness because of the gross inequities of the UK class system and from a poor background? You need to ingratiate yourself with people who consider you a lower class of lifeform by talking like a total prick - that's all that is preventing you from becoming a useful person.

As has already been posted, you couldn't find a worse example of a person (re: their oratory skills) to announce a garbage policy like this. Nothing about student fees and grants for students from poor backgrounds or free school meals. I wouldn't vote Labour if someone tried to force me to at gunpoint.

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

For a foresmic King’s Counsel he is an incredibly weak public speaker, flubs like “the family outstairs” quite common in prepared speeches, easily rattled, general mien of a supply teacher

His poor articulation doesn’t seem to have impeded his opportunities much but I’m sure it’s all that’s standing in the way of poor BAME kids and nothing else needs to be addressed ever

Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 7 July 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link

yeah I wonder if talking fluently in an establishment approved style will shield BAME kids from racist police officers who abuse their stop and search powers

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link

You forget Starmer comes from a Four Yorkshiremen Sketch background where his entire family spoke in inarticulate grunts and he was the first in his family to master human speech.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 18:28 (eleven months ago) link

that might have been his "humble toolmaker" dad, who Starmer is loath to mention - was actually the fucking senior management of this factory!

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:31 (eleven months ago) link

the humble toolmaker created one hell of a tool tbh

NickB, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:57 (eleven months ago) link


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