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― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 July 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link
🚨NEW: Railway workers on Eurostar have secured a significant pay rise following negotiations between @RMTunion and management.All staff on £45,000 or below will get a minimum uplift of £4,300.Pay deal is worth between 8-17% depending on grade and role.— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 11, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:33 (eleven months ago) link
hell fucking yes
that would have been a lot harder if the UK still had a 50% stake…
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:38 (eleven months ago) link
Meanwhile...
https://www.independent.co.uk/business/labour-does-not-rule-out-rejecting-public-sector-pay-advice-from-review-bodies-b2363603.html
― Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:50 (eleven months ago) link
Better vote for them anyway tho #GTTI
― Grandall Flange (wins), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:51 (eleven months ago) link
because of the economic devastation caused by the Truss mini-budget and Putin's invasion of Ukraine ... blah blah ad infinitum. Regretfully, now a prospective centre-right Labour govt led by someone just as evil and dishonest as any Tory. They will have to commit to the damaging and dangerous austerity/PFI ideas that is in the party's DNA and the watered down to meaningless flagship green policy - all shit stuff that they were going to do anyway, under any circumstances. Oh such difficult decisions for them to make.
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 17:57 (eleven months ago) link
as a non-economist I'm curious why these sensible pragmatists can't offer ballpark aspirations for public spending based on forecasts for tax take etc. even within the framework of their own arbitrary rules they seem evasive and dishonest and unable to articulate any kind of positive vision - their rhetoric betrays their nihilism at every turn
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:10 (eleven months ago) link
sorry, I'm in a stupid place, I know they answer to my own half-baked thoughts. this is a party machine run by people with absolute contempt for voters and they operate on the principle that ideas are bad and confusing.
also of course they are nihilists but
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:13 (eleven months ago) link
i can't remember where i read this but we're still living in the reagan "regime". politicians believe that in order to be taken seriously they must make sure that the principles of the market are the principles of society. all the hedging of starmer et al, the abdication of any vestige of corbynism, is obeisance to this regime. there are signs of regime change - the appetite for state action is growing, there's a trend there - but rather than get ahead of this wave starmer is determined to stay behind it, where he thinks the water is safe, which, to be fair, politically, it essentially has been since the early 80s
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 21:58 (eleven months ago) link
please let this happen
Hahahaha pic.twitter.com/MvmJfU9xAa— j (@jrc1921) July 12, 2023
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 06:49 (eleven months ago) link
Perfect.
― Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 06:59 (eleven months ago) link
lol, amazing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 07:18 (eleven months ago) link
I'm guessing they feel they need a "name" candidate because they're being told by people on the ground that Corbyn is likely to win. Which reminds me that I was phoned by a polling company about a year ago and asked, among other things, if I'd vote for Corbyn if he ran as an independent.
― Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 07:41 (eleven months ago) link
heard they are also considering Luciana Berger, which would be the same result but less funny
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 07:49 (eleven months ago) link
you need a mission specialist like Paul to take on Corbyn, some low value person who the party doesn't give a fuck about and has previous experience of rejection and failure.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:07 (eleven months ago) link
LB is the epitome of a spoiled Habs old girl, let her lose there too.
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:11 (eleven months ago) link
apparently she was appalling to her staffers and she's a dreadful melt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:13 (eleven months ago) link
but I think the party will see her as too high value to waste on a lost cause
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:14 (eleven months ago) link
Would imagine Berger is being lined up for somewhere she can actually win, probably not Liverpool this time lol. But if they did put her up against Corbyn then there would obviously be a certain discourse we would have to go through again.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:16 (eleven months ago) link
also relevant to note
As a student activist and new Labour MP, Berger was romantically linked to Tony Blair's son Euan and with Chuka Umunna
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:18 (eleven months ago) link
Tonty took her under his wing at an early age and she seems to have stayed there
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:19 (eleven months ago) link
Are there many Welsh speakers in Islington North?
― AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:23 (eleven months ago) link
The whole world is represented in Islington North.
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:29 (eleven months ago) link
being the anti-Corbyn candidate in Islington N requires either great stupidity or hubris - qualities Mason has plenty of in equal measure!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:37 (eleven months ago) link
I think LB wants to stand in Golders Green and Finchley? She ran there last time as a Lib Dem but it’s where she’s actually from or where she has lived as an adult.
She totally dated Chuka but always denies her friendship with Euan Blair was a relationship.
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:46 (eleven months ago) link
So she moved to 2 different opposition parties, stood for the Lib Dems, and is now fine to stand as a Labour MP again.
When you have it laid out in front of you the hypocrisy is comical.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:47 (eleven months ago) link
at least she didn't make a single tweet broadly in support of tactical voting a few years ago eh?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:56 (eleven months ago) link
Whenever anyone on the right of Labour is described as ‘talented’ by others in that group, I’m always left wondering what they could possibly mean. Talented at opening and shutting briefcases?
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:25 (eleven months ago) link
The talent is not being seduced by dumb shit like humanity or wanting to reduce inequality
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:27 (eleven months ago) link
BBC journalists constantly talking about "junior doctors say they've had below-inflation pay-rises for years" - this isn't a question of opinion, it's on the historical record and you can look it up and report it as a fact. obviously somebody prefers to present it as doubtful claim
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 July 2023 09:28 (eleven months ago) link
Millions of public sector workers, including teachers, police and junior doctors to get pay rises between 5-7%, UK government sayshttps://t.co/3U2SzSrR6A— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) July 13, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:50 (eleven months ago) link
The government will help fund public sector pay increases by “significantly” raising fees for migrants’ visa applications and NHS access, Rishi Sunak said.
Setting it up nicely for an incoming Lab govt to continue along the same path
― I fell asleep at kabuki (Matt #2), Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:59 (eleven months ago) link
There is no new money there apart from the idea of getting migrants to pay for it, which is so utterly craven - and, I think, delusional - I can absolutely accept that it came from this government.
Hilarious that Rishi kept saying he couldn't agree to the 6% pay recommendations because it would be inflationary, and now he says he can after all - as long as austerity is reimposed. It's not about inflation at all. It's about squeezing the state dry.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 July 2023 13:18 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/13/strikers-agency-workers-high-court-verdict
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:06 (eleven months ago) link
those "out-of-touch unelected judges" have made some good rulings recently. lol at Kwarteng's political legacy
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:24 (eleven months ago) link
Even if it were a good policy, I cannot see how migrants' visa fees can begin to cover public sector pay rises.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:27 (eleven months ago) link
it's got to the point where policies don't need to workable or have any practical use at all, as long they sound punitive enough towards anyone who isn't British then it's good to go.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:39 (eleven months ago) link
probably a fair amount of immigrants coming here will be people coming to work in the public sector as nurses etc
― NickB, Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link
when i worked in a s/w house, we once got raided by the home office as someone had tipped them off re us having illegals.meant that the next day we all had to take in our passports to prove we were who we were.the so called illegals, were developers over from our chicago office who all had valid visas.however, the process and interviews that the chicago crew had to go through was intense and very intimidating.and this was over 10 years ago.i dread to think how things are now.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:11 (eleven months ago) link
Teachers Unions leaders are a disgrace for recommending this offer.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 10:03 (eleven months ago) link
I suspect our union will accept it.
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 10:10 (eleven months ago) link
A good thing about social media is how it facilitates chat around how shit a lot of union leaders are. Hope teachers reject (and your union Tom) reject this pay cut
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 10:16 (eleven months ago) link
would it be so hard for Starmer to say “we’d negotiate to find a fair deal with the great workers of this country”? ffs just last week he accused rishi of having “given up”, the attack line is just sitting there waiting
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:39 (eleven months ago) link
You can load the bases with no outs and he’ll choose the NOBLETIGER every time
― (who is an amazing ice cream maker by the way) (gyac), Friday, 14 July 2023 12:48 (eleven months ago) link
Rachel Reeves was saying last week that a Labour government might also ignore the recommendations of pay review boards - what's she saying now the Tories have accepted then?
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 12:58 (eleven months ago) link
god knows i nod off every time she opens her mouth
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 July 2023 13:00 (eleven months ago) link
I can barely hear her over my screaming.
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 13:02 (eleven months ago) link
So much for the most popular minister in the cabinet.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/15/ben-wallace-says-he-will-step-down-as-defence-secretary-and-quit-as-mp
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link
Frankly, the left has to start caring a lot more about growth, about creating wealth, attracting inward investment and kickstarting a spirit of enterprise,” he says.“It is the only show in town for those who dream of a brighter future.
“It is the only show in town for those who dream of a brighter future.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/15/keir-starmer-we-cant-spend-our-way-back-to-power
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:20 (eleven months ago) link
LOL TIL he entered politics via the scottish parliament
xpost
― conrad, Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:20 (eleven months ago) link