I think LB wants to stand in Golders Green and Finchley? She ran there last time as a Lib Dem but it’s where she’s actually from or where she has lived as an adult.
She totally dated Chuka but always denies her friendship with Euan Blair was a relationship.
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:46 (eleven months ago) link
So she moved to 2 different opposition parties, stood for the Lib Dems, and is now fine to stand as a Labour MP again.
When you have it laid out in front of you the hypocrisy is comical.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:47 (eleven months ago) link
at least she didn't make a single tweet broadly in support of tactical voting a few years ago eh?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:56 (eleven months ago) link
Whenever anyone on the right of Labour is described as ‘talented’ by others in that group, I’m always left wondering what they could possibly mean. Talented at opening and shutting briefcases?
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:25 (eleven months ago) link
The talent is not being seduced by dumb shit like humanity or wanting to reduce inequality
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:27 (eleven months ago) link
BBC journalists constantly talking about "junior doctors say they've had below-inflation pay-rises for years" - this isn't a question of opinion, it's on the historical record and you can look it up and report it as a fact. obviously somebody prefers to present it as doubtful claim
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 July 2023 09:28 (eleven months ago) link
Millions of public sector workers, including teachers, police and junior doctors to get pay rises between 5-7%, UK government sayshttps://t.co/3U2SzSrR6A— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) July 13, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:50 (eleven months ago) link
The government will help fund public sector pay increases by “significantly” raising fees for migrants’ visa applications and NHS access, Rishi Sunak said.
Setting it up nicely for an incoming Lab govt to continue along the same path
― I fell asleep at kabuki (Matt #2), Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:59 (eleven months ago) link
There is no new money there apart from the idea of getting migrants to pay for it, which is so utterly craven - and, I think, delusional - I can absolutely accept that it came from this government.
Hilarious that Rishi kept saying he couldn't agree to the 6% pay recommendations because it would be inflationary, and now he says he can after all - as long as austerity is reimposed. It's not about inflation at all. It's about squeezing the state dry.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 July 2023 13:18 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/13/strikers-agency-workers-high-court-verdict
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:06 (eleven months ago) link
those "out-of-touch unelected judges" have made some good rulings recently. lol at Kwarteng's political legacy
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:24 (eleven months ago) link
Even if it were a good policy, I cannot see how migrants' visa fees can begin to cover public sector pay rises.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:27 (eleven months ago) link
it's got to the point where policies don't need to workable or have any practical use at all, as long they sound punitive enough towards anyone who isn't British then it's good to go.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:39 (eleven months ago) link
probably a fair amount of immigrants coming here will be people coming to work in the public sector as nurses etc
― NickB, Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link
when i worked in a s/w house, we once got raided by the home office as someone had tipped them off re us having illegals.meant that the next day we all had to take in our passports to prove we were who we were.the so called illegals, were developers over from our chicago office who all had valid visas.however, the process and interviews that the chicago crew had to go through was intense and very intimidating.and this was over 10 years ago.i dread to think how things are now.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:11 (eleven months ago) link
Teachers Unions leaders are a disgrace for recommending this offer.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 10:03 (eleven months ago) link
I suspect our union will accept it.
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 10:10 (eleven months ago) link
A good thing about social media is how it facilitates chat around how shit a lot of union leaders are. Hope teachers reject (and your union Tom) reject this pay cut
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 10:16 (eleven months ago) link
would it be so hard for Starmer to say “we’d negotiate to find a fair deal with the great workers of this country”? ffs just last week he accused rishi of having “given up”, the attack line is just sitting there waiting
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:39 (eleven months ago) link
You can load the bases with no outs and he’ll choose the NOBLETIGER every time
― (who is an amazing ice cream maker by the way) (gyac), Friday, 14 July 2023 12:48 (eleven months ago) link
Rachel Reeves was saying last week that a Labour government might also ignore the recommendations of pay review boards - what's she saying now the Tories have accepted then?
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 12:58 (eleven months ago) link
god knows i nod off every time she opens her mouth
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 July 2023 13:00 (eleven months ago) link
I can barely hear her over my screaming.
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 13:02 (eleven months ago) link
So much for the most popular minister in the cabinet.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/15/ben-wallace-says-he-will-step-down-as-defence-secretary-and-quit-as-mp
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link
Frankly, the left has to start caring a lot more about growth, about creating wealth, attracting inward investment and kickstarting a spirit of enterprise,” he says.“It is the only show in town for those who dream of a brighter future.
“It is the only show in town for those who dream of a brighter future.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/15/keir-starmer-we-cant-spend-our-way-back-to-power
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:20 (eleven months ago) link
LOL TIL he entered politics via the scottish parliament
xpost
― conrad, Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:20 (eleven months ago) link
is the RIP act of 2000 still in force? because that had a prison sentence for failing to disclose passwords and 'I've forgotten it' wasn't a valid response. People were prosecuted under it.
― koogs, Sunday, 16 July 2023 00:02 (eleven months ago) link
Senior Labour insiders said they agreed that the policy was “horrible” and would not exist “in a perfect world” but said the party was not making any spending commitments it was unable to deliver on. “I can see why colleagues might feel uncomfortable with this but we’ve got to be realistic about the state of the economy,” they said.One shadow cabinet minister said Starmer had to be able to “slay shibboleths” over public spending but admitted it was a tough position for MPs with constituents in poverty to defend.“These things are not easy for the MPs because they do genuinely hurt families in their constituencies,” they said. “But we can’t end child poverty unless we have more money to do it – and that’s not going to happen, frankly, in the first term of a Labour government.”
One shadow cabinet minister said Starmer had to be able to “slay shibboleths” over public spending but admitted it was a tough position for MPs with constituents in poverty to defend.
“These things are not easy for the MPs because they do genuinely hurt families in their constituencies,” they said. “But we can’t end child poverty unless we have more money to do it – and that’s not going to happen, frankly, in the first term of a Labour government.”
https://i.imgur.com/XjBzkbW.png
― he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 17 July 2023 09:03 (eleven months ago) link
this insistence on refusing to commit to actually improving anything in any way reminds me of this joke Jeremy Hardy made in the late 90s about New Labour coming to power and the public feeling like someone who had waited 18 years for an organ transplant only to find out that the donor had the same condition
― he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 17 July 2023 09:07 (eleven months ago) link
Can't remember the last time I've had a thought reading this thread that wasn't "these fucking cunts" (nb not the thread contributors).
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 July 2023 09:08 (eleven months ago) link
The funniest thing about lack of commitment is how quickly old that will get when we have droughts/flood/fires and the like.
Sleepwalkers, the lot of them.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 09:12 (eleven months ago) link
enlightening article (for some Americans) about the NHS in the NYT today
― youn, Monday, 17 July 2023 11:04 (eleven months ago) link
A good person.
I’ve decided to resign from @UKLabour and serve as an Independent Mayor.People are tired of being controlled by Westminster and Party HQs. They want someone to stand up for them. Let the people decide. £25k by end of Aug & I’ll stand as North East Mayor👉https://t.co/WuDEGd3xxJ pic.twitter.com/kscPeMmlX5— Mayor Jamie Driscoll (@MayorJD) July 17, 2023
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 July 2023 12:29 (eleven months ago) link
All power to Jamie.
Those quotes from the "Senior Labour insiders" (Mandeldroids like Akehurst and McSweeney) won't convince anyone. We've all learnt by now that these people take active pleasure in the suffering of natural Labour voters. It's punishment for the enthusiasm for Corbyn, for wanting fairer policies, for being impudent and not accepting what they're told. The level of hatred these people are going to start to see directed towards them in a Labour gov may well surprise even them.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:19 (eleven months ago) link
Jamie has raised 20k in barely 24 hrs.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:42 (eleven months ago) link
How many of those are giving bits of spare cash they shouldn't but are doing so anyway just bcz they want someone who cares?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:44 (eleven months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1PkNG3XsAA9uhb?format=jpg&name=medium
the replies to Kim McGuiness announcing her candidacy is mostly ppl saying fk off they are voting for Driscoll, what a charming Labour person she is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 17 July 2023 14:11 (eleven months ago) link
This has every chance of being this decade's Thatcher Milk Snatcher pic.twitter.com/GIuMf1umLW— Samplo Corvodina QC (@TreborRhurbarb) July 17, 2023
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 July 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link
I can't imagine seeing a classic like that on bluesky!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 17 July 2023 17:20 (eleven months ago) link
But one shadow cabinet member said: “It’s possible to both be critical of the two-child policy but also say we can’t make spending commitments. We have to be fiscally disciplined.”
make no mistakes, Labour's "fiscal discipline" is going to make them more dangerous than a Tory party that is on the ropes. Despicable people.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 17 July 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link
Driscoll now on 53k in half a day. Astonishing
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 17 July 2023 18:26 (eleven months ago) link
Good for him. He was pretty impressive on C4 news tonight.
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 17 July 2023 21:33 (eleven months ago) link
Unhinged to keep going on about that note after all the covid support people and businesses got.
Lucy Powell holds the line on the two-child limit on Times Radio: "There's no money left, to coin a phrase." Liam Byrne's note not so much a millstone for this Labour leadership as a philosophy for government.— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) July 18, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:12 (eleven months ago) link
The Labour Party using a stick the Tories have gleefully used over the years to beat the Labour Party, to beat... the Labour Party? Self-clowning or what?
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:17 (eleven months ago) link
Have they used the Winter of Discontent and the Enemy Within yet?
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:18 (eleven months ago) link
Give's department literally* 'gave back' £2Bn last week.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:25 (eleven months ago) link
Gove lol. First he Goveth.
not seen any signs of this imminent "Shadow Cabinet revolt" against Kieth that was reported yesterday, if any of them had a shred of integrity they'd have already been booted out.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:39 (eleven months ago) link
‘I don’t think the idea of keeping people in poverty is fiscally responsible'North of Tyne Mayor Jamie Driscoll says Labour is ‘storing up problems for the long term’ with its new policy to keep the two-child cap on benefits if it gets into government https://t.co/P0zxS1DNGF pic.twitter.com/Zj5EfMhT9e— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) July 17, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 10:49 (eleven months ago) link
The Westminster Think Tank scene
This is both dumb and disgraceful - Policy Exchange is an important part of the Westminster think tank scene and shouldn’t be intimidated in this way https://t.co/cBABHJ5ECa— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) July 20, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 July 2023 11:35 (eleven months ago) link