Bluesky an' clear: the social media app that will definitely last forever

ha i thought that would catch your eye.

leadership here is as sus as threads or twitter. like jack, they seem to share a lot of intellectual heritage with thiel, although i'm sure they'd deny it (60s bay area libertarianism, girard, etc.) but with burning man and shitposting (as an alibi for race wierdness) and some weird fash-adjacent stuff about nature.

grasscist

seems like the owners/employees have basically been bullied off their own platform. apart from one SWE they've completely stopped posting. truly outstanding effort from the userbase.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:17 (one hour ago) link

tbh this is very funny

dril's second skeet was good: "im going on a posting strike from here until the.y make every one not racist or whatever"

first post from someone other than that one poor SWE who had to ship the n-word regex. replies are good. https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3k2izrg6k6o2j.

someone normal should make an app imo

first post from someone other than that one poor SWE who had to ship the n-word regex. replies are good. https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3k2izrg6k6o2j🕸.

lmao the mods are being called out and people are snitch tagging the investors on ... linkedin!

no

i mean someone else can, but i can't be bothered to be honest. no offence. it's very silly.

its all fun and games til you bring the beef to linkedin

ahh brilliant, hide it where no one will look

seems like the owners/employees have basically been bullied off their own platform. apart from one SWE they've completely stopped posting. truly outstanding effort from the userbase.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, July 14, 2023 3:17 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

'scuse me, while I diss bluesky.

Not a screenshot but: the post is from a bsky team technical advisor that says “Some of that Blue.” with a photo of a blue sky with which is just not remotely helpful.

To you, no. If you consider that some people reading might be colour-blind, though...

I almost went back to LiveJournal after seeing my posts from the 2000s and missing writing in paraphernalia, and then I found it was owned by Russians and…subject to Russian law.

(Also am in Bluesky and it feels like me and Albini and Parton Oswalt hanging out in a Delta Skylounge.)

Xp: ha well they did include an alt text so that’s good

TIL blueski was (probably) a pun

Holy SHIT you are not ready for this pic.twitter.com/1wMD4Jq9Kp

— Lauren McKenzie (@TheMcKenziest) July 14, 2023

Bluesguy

― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, July 14, 2023 11:11 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Lol

I joined ello but lord only knows when I was last on it or if the account still exists

i was @lebronjames on ello

in case anyone wants an invite code

bsky-social-ufxqd-dszmo
bsky-social-2biwx-cqxgy

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

both taken

I'm on there now as chants.bsky.social. Haven't found very many people to follow on there, idk.

"I joined ello but lord only knows when I was last on it or if the account still exists"

the app still exists, so I assume the network does (I think I wound up deleting it, but I would occasionaly open it up as recently as a year ago and see just random images). Confusingly Ello is also now the name of a more high profile reading app that has nothing to do with old Ello.

If anyone wants to follow me on there I’m matthewbalaam.bsky.social - I won’t post much except the odd link to a radioshow or gig probably.

bluesky cant hope to compete with twitter until they get video so you can watch the cop eat shit on the slide

Have atthem:

bsky-social-w77g6-ysjch
bsky-social-zsizl-emv5i
bsky-social-efm3v-h6eeh
bsky-social-7ch5w-6blgf

Thanks!

thanks!

all taken (not by me, alas)

I’m on there, easy enough to find.

I've got to keep an eye out for the next invite dump!

Voilà

bsky-social-jl33a-obpxg
bsky-social-q5c6l-q6owc

Thanks!

welcome :)

if anybody needs one just DM me on slack or twitter, I've got 5

will do ASAP, I'm stuck somewhere else right now. are you easy to find on Twitter?

yeah I'm @smashedmcdouble

or I can just ilxmail you if yours works josh

that would be great, thanks! I am pretty sure my Gmail address is in my profile.

So jklein04 AT gmail.com. Thanks again! (Looks like I couldn't DM you on twitter if I wanted to without twitter blue)

I just used the ilxmail interface

Got it, thanks! Will start porting over twitter peeps and whatnot later today. Now I need to figure out how to change my ilxmail, lol.

yeah i don't want to post mine here because you're nominally repsonsible for who you invite and people get banned if their invites misbehave but i have a few. ilxmail me if you need one.

I'm not even sure how my ilxmail works. Is that just the address I used to originally sign up/register? My login ID? How do I change that without re-registering?

https://ilxor.com/ILX/Pages/editprofile.jsp ?

No, that didn't do it. When I send an email (to myself) through that portal, by clicking on my screen name, it just sends to my original login ID, which is an old email address. But when I try to change that old login address to a new login address, my current email, it logs me out, because it no longer matches the one associated with the password. Hmm.

who do we follow on bluesky?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaY1tmo-QBY

its called the atmosphere now

Paul Frazee @pfrazee.com‬
We talk about Bluesky getting users, but Bluesky is part of an open social internet called "The Atmosphere" where other people can make their own apps, including their own versions of Bluesky.

Bluesky isn't growing; the Atmosphere is! You're not "our" users; you're a part of a shared place.

https://bsky.app/profile/pfrazee.com/post/3l32kiopoay2c

Are they just bleeding venture capital until they bring in ads?

I'd be willing to pay for an ad-free version, hope they introduce that if and when they bring in ads.

Are they just bleeding venture capital until they bring in ads?

― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, September 1, 2024 1:39 AM bookmarkflaglink

Always fascinated by this bottomless pit of VC model of 'eventual success' (it gets bought/it becomes the dominant player). One of the devs was saying the other day that every image that gets uploaded gets scanned (for content moderation aiui)

https://bsky.app/profile/aaron.bsky.team/post/3l2x3kn2iok2z

even allowing for the fractional cost per image, they must be rinsing through the cash on opex, and about to introduce video too. I guess at the moment the theory of success is relatively easy - 'Twitter is in a pretty fast tailspin in terms of users and value and for the moment it makes sense for us to keep hoovering up a percentage of users and building new features.'

the model just seems massively incentivised to produce platforms that never reach operating stability and are always being tweaked to the detriment of the user (hello Spotify).

iiuc their infra costs are mostly scaling sublinearly with users because they made some unusual (these days) decisions re: on prem vs. cloud and just buying the biggest servers they could afford.

they support gifs now, really the only missing thing is embeddable posts

everyone hates gifs

i do too. the bad version won

bluesky trust and safety gut going galaxy brain

Aaron Rodericks ✧@aa✧✧✧.b✧✧✧.t✧✧✧‬
The inversion principle is a powerful tool I use to shift my perspective and uncover blind spots. Consider this example: "I was repeatedly rude to this person because they are bad." Here, user A labels themselves as good, justifying rudeness to user B, whom they've labeled as bad. 1/7

https://bsky.app/profile/aaron.bsky.team/post/3l2owilimci2i

the classically successful ban the people who tell nazis to fuck off approach to moderation

Aaron Rodericks ✧@aa✧✧✧.b✧✧✧.t✧✧✧‬
T&S policies should focus on behaviors (e.g., treating others with respect), regardless of the direction of rudeness. Otherwise, policies could be weaponized to favor one group over another repeatedly. 3/7

"Did you ever consider that you caused these people to become Nazis by existing?"

Best part:

‪Aaron Rodericks‬ ✧@aa✧✧✧.b✧✧✧.t✧✧✧‬
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9d
I wish I could find the Twitter thread where I first saw it for credit, but I could not find the post from several years ago. I look forward nonetheless in learning and applying new ideas from Bluesky threads in the future!

hacker news ass company

important to remember the leadership dna of this company is people who socialize with jack, are broadly sympathetic to his politics, and were part of https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/rtM3jFaoQn3eoAiPh/explaining-the-twitter-postrat-scene.

lets celebrate video coming to bluesky with our favorite good boy https://bsky.app/profile/caylen.bsky.social/post/3l3vnek3mhc2o

Thats best <3

I still dont really use BSky, I guess for the same reason I never used Twitter, I just dont "get it". I think my mode of discourse/internet usage is stuck in 2002, forums and blogs. I just find the concept of twitter (and dischord) way too rapidfire and ephemeral for my taste. I'm the same with video "shorts"/"stories", yuck, why is everyone's attention span suddenly only 60 seconds long.

Yeah, to me message boards are superior because they don’t have the hierarchy of a Personality posting and a bunch people either agreeing with it, attacking it or trying to get you to watch their video underneath.

Bluesky does seem a bit more conversational than Twitter, but perhaps only because it’s smaller and doesn’t have as many well-known posters on it at this point.

Yeah. And its funny, my initial internet "social" experience was on IRC, which was the precursor to Discord, and I thought nothing of being able to hold 2 or 3 group chats and half a dozen private chats all at the same time. I guess my brain was a lot more sharp/focussed in my 20s. I could NOT do that now.

Yeah I was going to say, discord basically just a slower moving 2000's chat room

Bluesky is good, I am on Bluesky!

Yes you are, jel!

It’s my renaissance!

Whats all the whingeing about "echo chamber" about? See this is what I hated about Twitter and I guess this will go the same way - people who are Chronically Online talk in these places like they think everyone else who is time poor and cant look at a socmed stream 94/7 will totally know what theyre on about :(

I just want somewhere to chat with my friends, and everything has become so splintered I cant find anywhere where they're all prepared to be anymore.

(she says, having clocked up 21 years and 60k messages on this thing)

the echo-chamber whine came from british journalist Jemima Kelly who was upset people disagreed with her

Let me guess - terf?

the very same

Gore Vidal Sassoon‬ jimmyjazz1968.bsky.social‬

One thing that being here has thrown into sharp relief is the extent to which Brits have normalized transphobia among ‘liberals’ there so they’re shocked when Americans automatically reject them as assholes

my main beef with bsky is that it's very US-centric. i really don't care to read the 34530th joke about RFK Jr's extramarital affairs cause i really do not give a shit about presidential also-rans from the other side of the world

also literally nothing happens on the app until the Americans are up by which time I'm already in bed.

Can't really do anything about it though - god knows I've tried to get more irl friends to get on it but no one really has, most are still on the bird app

I think it's full of Brazilians now too but they're in the same time zone I think!

Yeah unforch a lot of my crew seem to be on IG. And I never really vibed with IG - its for pictures, not discussion.