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Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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I know I know, Toynbee, but nonetheless *retch*

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/21/misery-sunak-glee-davey-joy-starmer-our-panel-byelection-results

― John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Friday, 21 July 2023 09:25 (three years ago)

Thought this was hilariously bad from Gaby. Burning bodies can't vote.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/20/green-revolution-cost-of-living-crisis-heat-pump-car

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 July 2023 10:18 (three years ago)

Sure, but the Tories are betting that right up until the bodies catch fire, they can be persuaded to vote against their interests, and I'm not sure they're wrong.

The article's main point seems solid - "go green but pay for it yourself" is a canny way for them to pay lip service and shift the blame.

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 July 2023 12:38 (three years ago)

This is the main headline today. What a disaster that focus groups have dominated our politics.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/29/i-realise-how-serious-it-is-voters-in-england-support-action-on-climate-crisis

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2023 09:33 (three years ago)

Telling ppl 'no you can't have your square metal box you cunt' is going to turn out really badly for all of us.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2023 09:34 (three years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/aug/03/sheryl-crows-20-greatest-songs-ranked

― the pinefox, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:19 (three years ago)

What the world has been crying out for.

― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:24 (three years ago)

lol i wonder if the writer watched the same totp rerun I did

― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:33 (three years ago)

I feel like maybe 20 songs is too much for anybody, just pick a tight karaoke 3

― Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:49 (three years ago)

20 songs is just "I really enjoy this artist's work, listen to all of it"

― Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:58 (three years ago)

Observer article written by a Spectator editor contains the statement that KS

"will benefit from leading a party that tends to see criticism of the leader as deeply disloyal".

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/13/keir-starmer-gender-politics-labour

― the pinefox, Monday, 14 August 2023 16:07 (three years ago)

Isabel Hardman is a Vichy white feminist who married a sex pest; what are the rights of the women who accused her partner of this, only to see him leave the Labour Party to escape tribunal? How did they feel when that little fucker got ennobled by Boris Johnson (who has been shamelessly cruel to the women he’s been through)on top of that? And if she’s given frank feedback about this in public, how long before she cries abuse?

― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:12 (three years ago)

You're correct, Suzy. The whole story is grotesque.

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:18 (three years ago)

I hope Fleet Street burns to the ground and takes all those gender critical pricks with it.

― vexingvexillologist, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:10 (three years ago)

One thing that particular, bad article above (again, by a Spectator editor, for the Obsever) makes me think is: UK 'conservatism' and 'liberalism' are now not very distinguishable. They're like friendly neighbours who are happy to pop in and out of each others' garden parties. Real opposition doesn't exist in this world.

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:25 (three years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F35YE_mXMAAPnuB?format=jpg&name=medium
They need to pension Polly off to Tuscany. Writing this about the baby killer nurse jfc.

― ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:25 (three years ago)

to me almost all writing about violent crime is disgusting and useless

― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:46 (three years ago)

And exploitative. Same goes for 'true crime'.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:58 (three years ago)

yeah, the exploitation is why i find it disgusting

― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:00 (three years ago)

A couple of locked twitter accounts have been carefully casting doubt on this conviction. I haven't followed it closely myself, but watching Polly (who probably fired that article off from Tuscany) and some others go on about this, when this could be quashed down the line, is something.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:08 (three years ago)

I don't know if it is possible to write a piece articulating the doubts is possible, but these people think of themselves as sharp, independent thinkers.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:10 (three years ago)

"she didn't look like a killer" = "I expect them to fit certain racial and class profiles because I am a bigot" because otherwise what does a killer look like?

― boxedjoy, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:14 (three years ago)

it's the stuff of zone 1 lib dinner conversations, oh yah doesn't look like a born criminal at all.

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:53 (three years ago)

A couple of locked twitter accounts have been carefully casting doubt on this conviction. I haven't followed it closely myself, but watching Polly (who probably fired that article off from Tuscany) and some others go on about this, when this could be quashed down the line, is something.


Yeah and I’ve blocked them cos it’s conspiratorial shit imo

― ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:54 (three years ago)

justice4lucy.com looks available

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 19 August 2023 15:00 (three years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/sep/02/gareth-southgate-englands-most-polarising-figure-is-just-sticking-to-football

I know Southgate's answer to Henderson was not good enough (and as pointed he could have easily gotten rid of him), but it's not exactly a great spectacle to see melt man from terf rag dancing on his grave either.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 September 2023 10:59 (three years ago)

Vote Labour.

"We're all trying to find the guy who did this" https://t.co/H5AtBhuWHI pic.twitter.com/bPmzHieeoN

— Tom Blackburn (@malaiseforever) September 6, 2023

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 13:19 (three years ago)

i love the "might appear desirable" bit, poor idiots are mistaken about their own best interests

― da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 13:21 (three years ago)

Article in which the author is exposed to the awful conditions delivery drivers work under and the sub-minimum wage pay they receive, acknowledges that companies take advantage of undocumented migrants to keep labour costs down and then finishes with this line. Liquid Guardian. https://t.co/FORxIo0sXp pic.twitter.com/GBWBJN0RgA

— Hats fan account (@bluenilehatsfan) September 15, 2023

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:13 (three years ago)

is "liquid x" a thing now?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 September 2023 15:43 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJC3pcEVUU

Since 1994

― kinder, Friday, 15 September 2023 16:13 (three years ago)

i'm familiar with the ref. hadn't heard "liquid <not football>" before though.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 September 2023 16:19 (three years ago)

guardian pie all over his face

― imago, Friday, 15 September 2023 16:42 (three years ago)

Another week, another Sonia Sodha article in the Observer

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/17/teachers-need-guidance-to-resolve-issues-gender-identity-in-classroom

― AlanSmithee, Sunday, 17 September 2023 10:06 (three years ago)

bigotryisfree

― whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 September 2023 11:27 (three years ago)

It’s a TERF talking point to read the Cass review rn

― steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 17 September 2023 12:23 (three years ago)

I kind of wonder if there's anyone at Guardian nervous about articles in the opinion section reading as reporting - the one 'I' in there was "parents I talked to"

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:16 (three years ago)

fair dos to Marina Hyde for looking back at what she said about “Sachsgate” at the time and not liking what she sees

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/19/brave-victims-russell-brand-misogyny-deserve-full-support

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:03 (three years ago)

It's ok until she recommends a book by Sarah Ditum, apparently a notorious TERF/SWERF.

― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:06 (three years ago)

ahhh fuk i knew there had to be a catch

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:08 (three years ago)

of course there's receipts

Kinda glossing over exactly how you covered it at the time a bit here aren't you pic.twitter.com/wQ0oS8sL58

— Rob Incognito (@MrPostsGood) September 19, 2023

― whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:18 (three years ago)

fucking yikes

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:03 (three years ago)

you have to make some thorny choices sometimes when your job is to be the most celebrated and utterly hilarious arch-cynic columnist in the UK and regularly impress some of the worst people in the country.

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:35 (three years ago)

Hyde has mentioned that her own anger at herself had been edited out and she's requested that it be put back into the article.

― djh, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 19:24 (three years ago)

The 2009 opinion piece screenshotted above is directly mentioned, but not linked to - which is fair dos imo, as it would just re-amplify the original abuse.

― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 19:57 (three years ago)

also it would remind the reader of what a fucking arsehole she is

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 20:42 (three years ago)

so fucking grim

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:25 (three years ago)

can't believe i got taken in!

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:25 (three years ago)

The 2009 opinion piece screenshotted above is directly mentioned, but not linked to - which is fair dos imo, as it would just re-amplify the original abuse.

― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Maybe. Or maybe she could think about not giving an opinion anymore, given what disgraceful stuff she was writing back then.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:33 (three years ago)

The Guardian has edited their review of Sex Education to remove the explicit transphobia that Lucy Mangan had previously included.

— Jess O'Thomson ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ (@jessothomson) September 21, 2023

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 September 2023 09:35 (three years ago)


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