Bluesky an' clear: the social media app that will definitely last forever

Agree that videos and gifs would be bad

iiuc they have not added gif support because they are not old people.

gif reactions might be one of my top three least favorite things about twitter, and that is saying a lot given what a shitshow it is now

otm. they were dying but then twitter's worst users moved to the top of the replies and they're back.

a carefully selected gif used to have cachet, but the concept of the gif library - just choosing whatever bottom of the barrel no royalties bullshit that comes up when you type in 'surprised' or w/e - is so bad, and also one of the worst things about work slacks

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most of them are from TV shows I don't watch and I know because there's usually a giant logo at the bottom

the fact that so many of them have a broadcast tv logo at the bottom is how you know these jokes are all 10+ years old.

suspect a lot of the not having stuff like dm and video has to do with the protocol its built on, if they were just making a normal website it wouldnt be too hard to implement that stuff

also theyve said the invites arent just a beta thing its part of their moderation scheme, bad actors cant just make a million accounts

agreed about gifs. I definitely spent some time looking for a way to block tweets containing animated gifs a couple of years ago but didn't find anything.

yeah dm is a protocol issue.

video is at the very least a compute and storage problem (everything needs to be re-encoded and stored). i'm pretty sure they're anti-gif, but afaik video is missing because it's hard.

yeah idk how much money they have, imo they shouldve gone all the way and done text only

animated gifs are weirdly huge thats why all the gifs on twitter are really just videos

twitter didnt used to have images you had to host them on a third party site, when text was king

i agree re txt only would have been a good way to keep things clean and simple (and cheaper for hosting)

~ he says having posted several album covers in last few days ~

just add a media url option to skeets and clients can implement a little embed off of a video provider

supporting external embeds (video, image, whatever) is an abuse threat and potentially a security complication. you can do it but it's an operational burden.

xp The thing is though those weird spam accounts are proliferating. and they say “Report them if you notice them, we can trace them via the invite trees”… but they don’t seem to do that effectively(?)

(sorry I was responding to the invite thing)

i do think it's more likely they will support embedded video from youtube before they support hosted video (because of the storage issue which goes back to me wondering how they are planning to pay for all this shit if it really takes off, because it has no revenue model).

what’s mastodon do re: video?

Depends on how your Mastodon server is set up. I think the default max file size is 40MB but YouTube embeds work fine.

In case anyone needs an invite:

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In the name of community I started following a bunch of people, but I've already had to start unfollowing annoying (over) posters. (None of you people, though.)

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suspect a lot of the not having stuff like dm and video has to do with the protocol its built on, if they were just making a normal website it wouldnt be too hard to implement that stuff

― lag∞n, Friday, September 22, 2023 1:33 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

dont mind videos but not having dms is annoying

also the feed is weird. it shows me every single reply from an account i follow, even if they're just replying to a random account i don't follow. but at the same time sometimes it doesn't show threaded replies by the account i do follow to themself

― flopson, Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:34 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

they fixed this in the new update btw. feed is pretty readable now

i've been enjoying bluesk tbh. there's a provincialism to it that's in some ways unappealing--lots of the discourse you see has this vibe of like, "this is the safe space away from scary mean twitter", to which i rmde--but it is nice how relatively small it feels. i missed out on early twitter (think i joined in 2013 or 14) but kinda reminds me of the first couple years

I joined twitter in November 2006 and I am one thousand years old

at the time I thought I’d missed the good wave when it was popular at sxsw (also rip) and maybe was right

I don’t think early twitter can quite be recaptured, but it’s interesting how each alternative (and I’ve tried… seven (7) of them) has its own vibe & culture, without necessarily promoting itself that way. Seems to happen somewhat organically, you know?

loving how you can configure your TL so you only see posts of folks you follow and nothing else.
there are lots of feeds to select from that tweak your feed, but for me 'OnlyPosts' is the one that sorts me out.

early twitter was so great

I joined in 2009 but it really started to devolve around 2014 or so

2015/16 was the real turning point (for obvious reasons); early 2010s Twitter was the peak I think – "weird Twitter" era, plus real-time engagement w/"events" but not in the oversaturated way that came later.

once tv news started showing twitter screenshots it was cooked

I dig the new website design, with your feeds listed in a sidebar that you can easily click around in.

once tv news started showing twitter screenshots it was cooked

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, September 28, 2023 12:06 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

...cop starts breakdancing

2015/16 was the real turning point (for obvious reasons); early 2010s Twitter was the peak I think – "weird Twitter" era, plus real-time engagement w/"events" but not in the oversaturated way that came later.

― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Thursday, September 28, 2023 11:52 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

some of the early 2010s weird twitter humor hasn't aged that well imho. the best tweets of that era are classics but on the whole there was still lots of residual "so random larfs"/"epic bacon" type of millenial humor in the mix

yeah a lot of it in retrospect was kinda lame but i think people liked it cause it was goofin off online not cause it was genius or whatever, then brands and the pundits et al came along and those are anti goofin off groups

it's weird how classic dril tweets just seem normal now, i remember them being so unlike anything at the time. also, i wish normal_now would come back.

the other day the discourse on bluesky was everyone dunking on a post by will stancil making the pt that if everyone on the left ceded twitter/X for the "walled garden" of bsky then no one would be left to bully the media and shift the discourse except nazis and centrist tech people. and everyone was dunking on it but like, the whole "posting is praxis" thing was definitely something that a significant share of ppl very earnestly believed from 2015-19. and imo it's now underrated how effective it was

Weird Twitter def. could feel forced or goofy, but there were also folks making such creative and cool uses of the medium (including the character limitations). Even close to "the end," I would occasionally run into accounts doing offbeat things that were so funny to me. I see a little of that elsewhere now too (like Bluesky), but it feels like the time for it has passed...

wait goofy is bad now

tough crowd