But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

Ha, I KNEW that Amazon Prime pushing Freevee content with ads upfront on their browse pages was a bellwether for this: "Amazon is bringing ads to Prime Video and will charge you to avoid them" :
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/media/amazon-prime-video-ads/index.html

note that this will be an additional charge on top of what you already pay for amazon prime video.

since Peacock already has a double tier like this (one with ads, one without), and I thin Netflix is starting this too, I fully expect this approach to start rolling out to all of them. These services are not sustainable on subscription revenue alone I guess.

Just as I've been deciding which ones to cut loose of... Netflix is definitely going, Hulu might be going too (though if it does it'll take Max with it, so I don't know).

i cancelled disney+ after finding out that it was being made available to me with Hulu, I'm not sure for how long I double paid for these things. Max I get for free via AT&T, shame it sucks so much now. Netflix would be an easy one for me to ditch but my wife watches lots of things on there. Ditto Hulu (we sprung for Hulu Live, but I think I'm going to scale that back, because we don't ever actually watch anything live). holding onto Paramount until we finish Twin Peaks but then I think I'm going to start up on the new Star Trek series I've been avoiding.

Hulu, Netflix, Disney+, Max, Paramount+ (and the aforementioned Peacock) all have ad-supported plans already, just FYI

Bold move for Prime where they have so little worth watching.

Exactly. Also the difference here sounds like ad supported will be the default; in other cases, those are lower priced plans.

Yes, for sure… was just responding to your point about an ad tier “rolling out to all of them.” It’s there already for most (I think Peacock keeps certain content reserved for premium subscribers).

Peacock had (or has) three tiers - free for everyone, subscriber only content with ads and then no ads.

I’m still paying $5 a month for no ads so my mom can watch the Yellowstoneverse but after Poker Face and the resort series I have no idea what’s even on it.

Oh I guess all the Premier League games that’s pretty cool if I was ever awake at 6am to watch.

i like peacock because it also runs project runway (which just finished a good all stars season) and their original programming has been pretty good (the dumb series with kaley cuoco about serial killer podcasts was entertaining). it has this john wick miniseries starting too. I think it provides fairly good content for the price which is still fairly cheap.

I used to get Peacock for free through my Xfinity internet plan, but that finally ended a couple of months ago. Guess I will subscribe when Top Chef or Poker Face comes back.

CBS has started showing edited Yellowstone episodes as part of their strike lineup.* Is Yellowstone even Yellowstone without the profanity, nudity, and toned-down violence?

*Not the first time they've done something like this: back during the '07-8 writers strike, my Dad was telling about seeing the dumbest show the night before, which he began to describe to me because he forgot the title, and it was CBS showing edited Dexter episodes.

These services are not sustainable on subscription revenue alone I guess

Even if you have no interest in football, BS High on HBO is an incredible documentary, the closest you'll get to being in the room with a true sociopath

This Amazon news is some real bullshit. It's the only service I currently pay for, but there's no way I'm kicking in extra. At this point I don't think there's a single streaming service that's worth it. Maybe it's best to just dip in and out for a month at a time when one gets a handful of things to watch.

Yeah, no qualms with them introducing lower priced subscriptions with ads but if Prime starts putting adverts in the middle of movies/shows I watch, I'll be cancelling my subscription.

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i almost don't even mind ads (sometimes) but my experience with how it worked on freevee was that it would just insert an ad while someone was mid-sentence, it was incredibly disruptive and annoying

That's my experience too, a bit like the ones on YouTube. They're just spaced a certain amount of time apart rather than at the end of a scene/act whatever.

i watched the first episode of Captain Marleau on MHz. she might win the quirky detective prize. lots of people try to out-Monk Monk but Marleau might do it. that show Astrid that i watched is too heavyhanded with the autistic rain man thing. its feels a little embarrassing. but someone with severe asperger's would have to watch and tell me what they think. Will Trent creates its Monk character via trauma which feels like cheating! i did watch the whole season of that though.

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yeah, very frustrating when it's for an older show that already has natural spaces for commercial breaks and they just ignore them.

i watched the first two episodes of The Bastards of Pizzofalcone but the angry cop who hit his wife scares me. i hope he gets help. don't know if i can keep watching him be mean. though i guess its making a point about cops and violence. like the woman cop who goes home to the horrible husband and difficult - autism again? - child and can't talk about her horrible murder days to anyone.

Freevee ads were terrible when I watched nuBosch - very old school streaming where it was the same ad over and over for a fake brand toothbrush only available on Amazon or Liberty Mutual over and over. Reminded me of Hulu ads in the early days.

Tubi seems more like basic cable in terms of variety so it’s less intrusive.

basic cable never had the movie selection that tubi has! so many cool movies.

i watched the first two episodes of The Bastards of Pizzofalcone but the angry cop who hit his wife scares me. i hope he gets help. don't know if i can keep watching him be mean. though i guess its making a point about cops and violence. like the woman cop who goes home to the horrible husband and difficult - autism again? - child and can't talk about her horrible murder days to anyone.

― scott seward, Saturday, 23 September 2023 15:32 (two hours ago) link

He sucks, but his wife is not gonna put up with it. I dunno how much you get in the first couple episodes. They're long episodes.

Despite all my talk about how I hate cops and shows and books that lionize cops, for some reason it is easier for me to enjoy when they are not in the US. I don't think this show lionizes cops particularly, but it's borderline in some ways, because the cops are still the heroes. I find that I care about the characters a lot, because they are all shown to be really human, and their struggles and relationships with their families and each other are really well written imo. and that helps too. But it's still a weird borderline case.

The books were written specifically (iirc) w/ the 87th Precinct novels by McBain in mind - half criminal stuff, half life and family cop stuff. Maurizio de Giovanni's DEFINITELY better than McBain at showing the cops as flawed and often kinda shitty people.

on that other thread you mention sandford books as being pro-cop i think? but i always think of davenport and flowers as lone wolf types who just want to go get crazy killers. they never spend that much time with other cops. they don't feel like cops.

my dad just read a recent book of his and the main character is davenport's adopted daughter Letty. kinda curious how a 79 year old man writes a young woman for an entire novel. might read it. haven't read one in a long time cuz they got tired.

Lol, it takes some chutzpah for Amazon to say ads will allow it to “continue investing in compelling content and keep increasing that investment over a long period of time" after wasting, what, a billion dollars on that Lord of the Rings show that no one wanted?

jesus, i totally forgot about that lotr show! did anyone watch it?

There's going to be five seasons, a billion is for all five

I watched it and would continue if I still have Prime, but it's real bad

on that other thread you mention sandford books as being pro-cop i think? but i always think of davenport and flowers as lone wolf types who just want to go get crazy killers. they never spend that much time with other cops. they don't feel like cops.

In fact, Davenport spends a lot of time talking shit about regular cops being incompetent thugs and/or lazy bureaucrats, if I remember right (I haven't read any of those books in a few years).

Maybe I stopped reading them cuz of the psycho killer stuff then. Tbh I haven’t read one for years. I’m not great at consistency.

But I think it’s probably the same kind of edge case where the cops are flawed but ultimately portrayed as good and heroic?

Lord of the rings show was very bad

The red riding films are on Tubi if anybody cares 💁

The movie NO ONE WILL SAVE YOU, on Hulu, is interesting but I wouldn't call it "good." A lot of people seem to like it a lot more than I did, that's for sure. It stars Kaitlyn Dever, whom I like, as a woman living all alone in a nice little house on the edge of a town where nobody seems to like her. One night, her house is invaded by aliens. The formally interesting part of it is that there's no dialogue — she mostly runs around the house yelping and screeching. (Which started to bug me after a while, because most people, when they're scared or startled, don't just shriek; they yell profanities. Like, if you got thrown through a wall by a telekinetic alien, you wouldn't just lie there groaning, you'd lie there groaning "Fuuuuuck," right? Anyway, I won't spoil the ending but it goes from scary to Twilight Zone-y, and I found that aspect very disappointing. But it's only 90 minutes long so it's worth at least checking out.

Has anyone watched The Other Black Girl on Hulu? I hear it is good

so the Netflix DVD service is closing next Friday. I severely edited my queue in response and ended up watching some films that I won't be otherwise able to see. Submarino by Thomas Vinterburg was pretty amazing I thought

They said they won't expect us to return our last rentals and then may gift us up to 10 additional films on the last day. I've switched to putting all-time great films on my queue. A lot of the great films are not available - Vertigo, Citizen Kane, 2001, In the Mood for Love, Beau Travail, etc, - but I've already got Mulholland Drive and Jeanne Dielmann and there are many more great films I'm hoping to get

But that is no matter. It will just be really sad to see it go. I think its closing will be a break for me. I've made a list of all of the films I had previously put on my Netflix DVD queue and still want to see, but I don't think in the future I will have the same drive to watch them or collate them in a rotating list in order of director

One nice thing they did was allow us to download a history of all of our rentals and our ratings over the past many years. I love looking at that, it is my letterboxd

Thanks for the heads up on Prime's upcoming ad insertion, I just went and cancelled it. All I'd ever watched on it was KITH and some old WB cartoons, and Ive never used the deliery service, it was a waste of money.

I would miss Reacher but the second season should be finished before they start putting in ads.

I mean yeah I think we watched the Boys as well, but tbh given a lot of the big channels arent easy to get in AU anyway we've always just sailed the sea for anything non-netflix.

Thanks for the heads up on Prime's upcoming ad insertion, I just went and cancelled it. All I'd ever watched on it was KITH and some old WB cartoons, and Ive never used the deliery service, it was a waste of money.

i think every streaming service is worth the money. i don't like to drive at night plus i have mental problems about crowds and there is only one art house movie theater near me and its all the way in amherst and they probably don't play nearly as many cool asian movies as the streaming services. and the local movie house was bought by a trumper who even showed that fake vote-stealing movie. and the only other movie theater is all the way at a mall in hadley. a hundred bucks a year for criterion or netflix? priceless!

ooh they are showing a sneak preview of Old Dads at the art house. i want to see that. coming out in october. but will probably be on netflix...at the end of october.

Reservation Dogs ended beautifully. A bit underwhelmed by the finale though, I mean, yes beautiful and sweet and funny and touching, but maybe it couldn't hit the insane highs having to cover so much and be so final? Either way, one of the best and most perfect TV shows ever created.

Physical ended...somehow. Totally strange tone and pacing, definitely felt like a rush or something. I still generally liked the show though.

after watching the riveting finale of that Survive The Raft reality show on Hulu (it wasn't very riveting and there is no way that show comes back again...) i watched Mike Leigh's *Another Year* on Tubi. holy smokes is that movie bleak! the ending is Bergman bleak. i think i might need to see it again. brutal.

i really enjoy jim broadbent in my old age. or his old age. one or the other. or both.

oh god, yeah... Another Year, that's a fuckin dark one. According to Helen it is pretty much the way life was for a lot of people.

oh wait, i'm thinking of Meantime. Not sure I ahve seen Another Year.

lol Disney Plus is still listing "Crater" as a recent release even though they pulled it from the service in July.

https://ondisneyplus.disney.com/