Bluesky an' clear: the social media app that will definitely last forever

it’s probably been a few weeks now, but a handful of people were run off of bsky for being weird, and one of the weird bits was that they were using a discord to just sit around and workshop their posts, which they would then throw out there and repost and strategic hours

I get the entire 1. get a social media following 2. ?? 3. profit scheme but it’s weird to see it start from zero and ramp up

I should note this wasn’t “weird twitter” kind of weird, but “your interactions seem to imply you’ve got a sidebar of interactions going we can’t see and there are no direct messages here”

lol board detectives got em

Were they good posts at least? (A lot of posts I see on there could use more “workshopping”…)

that is fairly inoffensive. some people got run off last month because it was revealed they were colluding on discord and then piling up on people with unfounded accusations.

this weekend's drama that I witnessed involved a woman who publicly declared she had begun to kill herself, and then when people reacted and called for help, apparently the cops showed up and now everyone who tried to help her is evil because ACAB.

the accusation stuff is just weird and just created on the fly. there was a group on twitter that seems to be attempting to migrate whose entire m.o. was to find someone actually popular, find something they said that could be misconstrued, and then blast that as a talking point to pull in anyone who might be susceptible

what are you even doing online if this is what you’re up to? at least muting and blocking is being more normalized

you can absolutely ignore, block, mute anyone who thinks the fact emergency services showed up for someone in trouble means people who tried to help are pro-cop!

before musk took over i blocked and muted basically no one on twitter. i block and mute tons of people on bluesky. it's a good system. should have done it sooner.

the other day the discourse on bluesky was everyone dunking on a post by will stancil making the pt that if everyone on the left ceded twitter/X for the "walled garden" of bsky then no one would be left to bully the media and shift the discourse except nazis and centrist tech people. and everyone was dunking on it but like, the whole "posting is praxis" thing was definitely something that a significant share of ppl very earnestly believed from 2015-19. and imo it's now underrated how effective it was

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"Posting is praxis" ppl haven't decreased to a significant degree?

From a ukpol perspective there was a five minute window to make some changes. That has been firmly shut way before Musk took over.

This post on bsky...

"i've noticed since this most recent wave of invites went out, a lot of new people are here posting like shit, being super aggressive and scolding people in their replies and i just want to say we don't do that here, go back to twitter if you can't act right"

Is funnily enough the first time I've encountered something like twitter behaviour on there lol. Though I am still only looking now and then. Timeline is growing.

I do feel like Bluesky has a lot more schoolmarm types

the this is our little website behavior is very funny, its not actually their little website

if only they knew about ilx

people did really used to have their little websites now they have to pretend on some libertarians venture funded app, sad

I’ve seen aggro jerks/trolls on Bsky for a while, that’s def not a new phenomenon

this weekend's drama that I witnessed involved a woman who publicly declared she had begun to kill herself, and then when people reacted and called for help, apparently the cops showed up and now everyone who tried to help her is evil because ACAB.

I saw this and to be fair it was the woman herself who went off on the people who tried to help her and said they were evil and no longer her friends, not just some collection of bored bystanders.

unstable people will do that and imo you should either not take sides or at the very least not take the side of the unstable person

if they’re speaking like that online, you have no idea whether they’ve reached out to people irl and it’s a tough call whether to take action but if their life is credibly at risk you’ve gotta do what you gotta do

anyone have any new codes to share

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to be fair it was the woman herself who went off on the people who tried to help her and said they were evil and no longer her friends, not just some collection of bored bystanders

yes i know, and that's what I meant. and at that point I decided this person was either 1) very seriously mentally unwell (tbf, she does admit this, and claims a whole onslaught of issues from PMDD to autism to something else) 2) just an attention seeker who got the wrong kind of attention (she seemed upset that she lost 50 followers as a result of this).

there is a contingent of people in the world who want to loudly proclaim every single mental illness they suffer from to thousands upon thousands of strangers and I don't think I'm ever going to understand these people; ultimately I lose empathy with them. they are tiring and they inevitably ask for money. It strikes me as a deeply disingenuous type of grift.

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he whole "posting is praxis" thing was definitely something that a significant share of ppl very earnestly believed from 2015-19

someone please explain to me what that phrase means

praxis term used on the left meaning putting theory into action eg protest is praxis, but is posting praxis are you actually doing anything, a question posed to the online left

now you are exactly as stupid as the rest of us lol

shitposting is shitpraxis, prove me wrong

got it. half the time when I encounter something fucking stupid its origins are in the online left. (the other half of the time it's coming from the online right)

I think Sean McElwee's narrative arc really killed the posting is praxis thing

so yr saying the on-line left stupidity in fact came from the stupid on-line centre 😦

the death knell for sure

is random restaurant on bluesky yet?

anyone have any luck finding good art bots?

it is on there but someone just used my code to make it, which is fine lol

dang

tbf i didnt do it and i posted the code and they credited me and i did not complain

re: artbots

the twitter crew migrated en masse to mastodon and carefully set up there -- but i just peeked and it looks like they stopped bothering to update in march :(

there are a handful on bluesky who are maybe planning to expand the project (i don't know to what extent or if it's the twitter gang moved again): basquiat is the one i see most often

some of them did actually return to twitter tho most are far less as active than used to be and some seem to be suspended (i tried to work out what this narrative reminded me of and lol it's when franklin's ppl remanned the unfrozen terror and erebus and sailed them the the north to the south of king william island)

the bluesky artbot ppl are the twitter ppl: it's basically this guy https://twitter.com/andreitr = https://bsky.app/profile/andreitr.bsky.social

i think the sluggishness setting up may be that it's taken a while to solve some coding and automating issue

I was expecting the artbot accounts to have flowered a bit more by now but they all seem to follow the same 4 accounts. Guggenheim Collection is a good one.

Bluesky is still so clunky. You click on new notifications and the NEW NOTIFICATIONS number doesn't go away; you have to refresh multiple times, to make new notifications appear.

The threading setting is quite neat.

I dont think I must use this kind of socmed the same way you all seem to. I just want to hear from my friends. Do people just randomly follow everyone they come across?

The few IRL ppl I know who still have social media accounts* very rarely, if ever, post.

(Insta being the exception… kid photos and such)

FWIW I am still actively using bluesky, indeed more than I was a month ago, and am getting many new followers every day, whereas I've completely stopped with Threads.

I know a good bunch of people who mainly talk about books and a bit about music on Twitter, who are slowly shifting across. Once enough of them have I can bin the Twitter account. I don't really know anyone in the real world I can talk to about these things.

Deleted everything from Bluesky and split. Lots of scolds and folks going all-in on political shitposting.

To fine tune it... With Twitter, I could at least mix up the scolds and shitposts with recent photos of Saturn, updates on pirate radio stations on shortwave/HF, LA police pursuits, and what kinds of cupcakes are available at Erin McKenna's on Larchmont (my faves in town!). Without all that, I'm finding Bluesky in its current form feeling a lot like Facebook of all things. Endless loops of nostalgia memes punctuated by #resistanceshitpost whenever political turmoil happens.

tsar bombadil: if you have notifications you've checked in on and want the NEW NOTIFICATION notice to switch off, click to the home thread and back

Bluesky is still so clunky. You click on new notifications and the NEW NOTIFICATIONS number doesn't go away; you have to refresh multiple times, to make new notifications appear.

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 8:07 PM (yesterday)

i've had to do this on twitter since forever (even before elon took over)

i doubt anyone ever unironically used the phrase "posting is praxis" to describe their own view, but many people believe (imho not unreasonably) that by posting it's possible to "shift the overton window"

thats what people will say when pressed but mostly theyre just posting because they like it

depends on who and when. the praxis motive peaks during democratic primaries or around the passage of major legislation by dem administrations. there's also a subset of posters who have their pet issue and are dedicated to replying to anyone who posts about it. kinda like a stan army for politics