Bluesky an' clear: the social media app that will definitely last forever

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before musk took over i blocked and muted basically no one on twitter. i block and mute tons of people on bluesky. it's a good system. should have done it sooner.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 13:54 (eleven months ago) link

the other day the discourse on bluesky was everyone dunking on a post by will stancil making the pt that if everyone on the left ceded twitter/X for the "walled garden" of bsky then no one would be left to bully the media and shift the discourse except nazis and centrist tech people. and everyone was dunking on it but like, the whole "posting is praxis" thing was definitely something that a significant share of ppl very earnestly believed from 2015-19. and imo it's now underrated how effective it was

― flopson, Friday, 29 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

"Posting is praxis" ppl haven't decreased to a significant degree?

From a ukpol perspective there was a five minute window to make some changes. That has been firmly shut way before Musk took over.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 07:37 (eleven months ago) link

This post on bsky...

"i've noticed since this most recent wave of invites went out, a lot of new people are here posting like shit, being super aggressive and scolding people in their replies and i just want to say we don't do that here, go back to twitter if you can't act right"

Is funnily enough the first time I've encountered something like twitter behaviour on there lol. Though I am still only looking now and then. Timeline is growing.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 07:43 (eleven months ago) link

I do feel like Bluesky has a lot more schoolmarm types

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 11:56 (eleven months ago) link

the this is our little website behavior is very funny, its not actually their little website

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:30 (eleven months ago) link

if only they knew about ilx

rob, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:32 (eleven months ago) link

people did really used to have their little websites now they have to pretend on some libertarians venture funded app, sad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

I’ve seen aggro jerks/trolls on Bsky for a while, that’s def not a new phenomenon

Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:13 (eleven months ago) link

this weekend's drama that I witnessed involved a woman who publicly declared she had begun to kill herself, and then when people reacted and called for help, apparently the cops showed up and now everyone who tried to help her is evil because ACAB.

I saw this and to be fair it was the woman herself who went off on the people who tried to help her and said they were evil and no longer her friends, not just some collection of bored bystanders.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:29 (eleven months ago) link

unstable people will do that and imo you should either not take sides or at the very least not take the side of the unstable person

if they’re speaking like that online, you have no idea whether they’ve reached out to people irl and it’s a tough call whether to take action but if their life is credibly at risk you’ve gotta do what you gotta do

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:10 (eleven months ago) link

anyone have any new codes to share

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:24 (eleven months ago) link

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lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:33 (eleven months ago) link

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ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:38 (eleven months ago) link

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Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link

to be fair it was the woman herself who went off on the people who tried to help her and said they were evil and no longer her friends, not just some collection of bored bystanders

yes i know, and that's what I meant. and at that point I decided this person was either 1) very seriously mentally unwell (tbf, she does admit this, and claims a whole onslaught of issues from PMDD to autism to something else) 2) just an attention seeker who got the wrong kind of attention (she seemed upset that she lost 50 followers as a result of this).

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:28 (eleven months ago) link

there is a contingent of people in the world who want to loudly proclaim every single mental illness they suffer from to thousands upon thousands of strangers and I don't think I'm ever going to understand these people; ultimately I lose empathy with them. they are tiring and they inevitably ask for money. It strikes me as a deeply disingenuous type of grift.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:31 (eleven months ago) link

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sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link

he whole "posting is praxis" thing was definitely something that a significant share of ppl very earnestly believed from 2015-19

someone please explain to me what that phrase means

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:59 (eleven months ago) link

praxis term used on the left meaning putting theory into action eg protest is praxis, but is posting praxis are you actually doing anything, a question posed to the online left

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

now you are exactly as stupid as the rest of us lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:05 (eleven months ago) link

shitposting is shitpraxis, prove me wrong

mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link

got it. half the time when I encounter something fucking stupid its origins are in the online left. (the other half of the time it's coming from the online right)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:16 (eleven months ago) link

I think Sean McElwee's narrative arc really killed the posting is praxis thing

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:56 (eleven months ago) link

so yr saying the on-line left stupidity in fact came from the stupid on-line centre 😦

mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:58 (eleven months ago) link

the death knell for sure

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:58 (eleven months ago) link

is random restaurant on bluesky yet?

anyone have any luck finding good art bots?

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:03 (eleven months ago) link

it is on there but someone just used my code to make it, which is fine lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:04 (eleven months ago) link

dang

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:07 (eleven months ago) link

tbf i didnt do it and i posted the code and they credited me and i did not complain

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:48 (eleven months ago) link

re: artbots

the twitter crew migrated en masse to mastodon and carefully set up there -- but i just peeked and it looks like they stopped bothering to update in march :(

there are a handful on bluesky who are maybe planning to expand the project (i don't know to what extent or if it's the twitter gang moved again): basquiat is the one i see most often

some of them did actually return to twitter tho most are far less as active than used to be and some seem to be suspended (i tried to work out what this narrative reminded me of and lol it's when franklin's ppl remanned the unfrozen terror and erebus and sailed them the the north to the south of king william island)

mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link

the bluesky artbot ppl are the twitter ppl: it's basically this guy https://twitter.com/andreitr = https://bsky.app/profile/andreitr.bsky.social

i think the sluggishness setting up may be that it's taken a while to solve some coding and automating issue

mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 21:06 (eleven months ago) link

I was expecting the artbot accounts to have flowered a bit more by now but they all seem to follow the same 4 accounts. Guggenheim Collection is a good one.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 21:14 (eleven months ago) link

Bluesky is still so clunky. You click on new notifications and the NEW NOTIFICATIONS number doesn't go away; you have to refresh multiple times, to make new notifications appear.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:07 (eleven months ago) link

The threading setting is quite neat.

I dont think I must use this kind of socmed the same way you all seem to. I just want to hear from my friends. Do people just randomly follow everyone they come across?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 02:09 (eleven months ago) link

The few IRL ppl I know who still have social media accounts* very rarely, if ever, post.

(Insta being the exception… kid photos and such)

Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:06 (eleven months ago) link

FWIW I am still actively using bluesky, indeed more than I was a month ago, and am getting many new followers every day, whereas I've completely stopped with Threads.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:44 (eleven months ago) link

I know a good bunch of people who mainly talk about books and a bit about music on Twitter, who are slowly shifting across. Once enough of them have I can bin the Twitter account. I don't really know anyone in the real world I can talk to about these things.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 04:35 (eleven months ago) link

Deleted everything from Bluesky and split. Lots of scolds and folks going all-in on political shitposting.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 04:51 (eleven months ago) link

To fine tune it... With Twitter, I could at least mix up the scolds and shitposts with recent photos of Saturn, updates on pirate radio stations on shortwave/HF, LA police pursuits, and what kinds of cupcakes are available at Erin McKenna's on Larchmont (my faves in town!). Without all that, I'm finding Bluesky in its current form feeling a lot like Facebook of all things. Endless loops of nostalgia memes punctuated by #resistanceshitpost whenever political turmoil happens.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 08:18 (eleven months ago) link

tsar bombadil: if you have notifications you've checked in on and want the NEW NOTIFICATION notice to switch off, click to the home thread and back

mark s, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 09:33 (eleven months ago) link

Bluesky is still so clunky. You click on new notifications and the NEW NOTIFICATIONS number doesn't go away; you have to refresh multiple times, to make new notifications appear.

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 8:07 PM (yesterday)

i've had to do this on twitter since forever (even before elon took over)

, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:04 (eleven months ago) link

i doubt anyone ever unironically used the phrase "posting is praxis" to describe their own view, but many people believe (imho not unreasonably) that by posting it's possible to "shift the overton window"

flopson, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:52 (eleven months ago) link

thats what people will say when pressed but mostly theyre just posting because they like it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:24 (eleven months ago) link

depends on who and when. the praxis motive peaks during democratic primaries or around the passage of major legislation by dem administrations. there's also a subset of posters who have their pet issue and are dedicated to replying to anyone who posts about it. kinda like a stan army for politics

flopson, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:47 (eleven months ago) link

Cheers, Mark S

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:17 (eleven months ago) link

5 more, if anyone is still looking:

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Chris L, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:59 (eleven months ago) link

It’s happening

https://bsky.app/profile/michelleperez.bsky.social/post/3kawvetilrz2e

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:20 (eleven months ago) link

Who is that

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:33 (eleven months ago) link

I'm at @jimbooo, although lord knows I don't need any more things to distract me online.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:49 (eleven months ago) link

The Following, Discover, and Popular With Friends tabs all show me the same people and posts... why is this site so half-baked

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:01 (eleven months ago) link


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