Israel, Palestine & the Levant rolling events: Oct 23 on

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Shocker

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:34 (eight months ago) link

(100% believe it was IDF)

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:35 (eight months ago) link

At this point they know everyone will believe them when they say it wasn't them

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:36 (eight months ago) link

At this point they know everyone will believe them shrug and say "Whaddya gonna do?" when they say it wasn't them

read-only (unperson), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:40 (eight months ago) link

at this point they don't care that everybody knows it was them

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:42 (eight months ago) link

You can’t square the circle of “It was a Hamas rocket” and “Israel warned them to evacuate the hospital”. The images that I’ve seen are appalling.

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:43 (eight months ago) link

this is truly insane I mean you knew Israel was gonna get away with some shit but this might be one of the most evil acts I've ever seen in my life

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:43 (eight months ago) link

The West and Russia both bombed hospitals in Syria with a similar lack of fucks.

nashwan, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:44 (eight months ago) link

Otm. It’s not unique by any means. How many hospitals, schools, and residential buildings were destroyed in Iraq and Afghanistan?

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:46 (eight months ago) link

Or in the US-supported attacks on Yemen (over 100 health care facilities targeted)?

keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:51 (eight months ago) link

yea true I guess seeing the IDF gloating about it immediately while Israel is simultaneously denying it and blaming them for not evacuating, while at the same time publicly calling them subhuman is just truly ghoulish. idk this shit just sucks so much

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:54 (eight months ago) link

Even if Hamas did hide in hospitals, how on earth would that be a justification to bomb a hospital? If a bunch of Hamas fighters were holed up in a hospital in Tel Aviv, somehow I don't think they'd bomb it.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:01 (eight months ago) link

Spontaneous gathering in the center of Brussels for Palestine pic.twitter.com/xzEq10y4OS

— فيروز (@Fayrouz_yousfi) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:02 (eight months ago) link

The odds that any of the hostages are alive is pretty low, considering that Israel is just bombing the fuck out of Gaza. Weren't they once proud of stuff like the raid on Entebbe?

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:03 (eight months ago) link

yea true I guess seeing the IDF gloating about it immediately while Israel is simultaneously denying it and blaming them for not evacuating, while at the same time publicly calling them subhuman is just truly ghoulish. idk this shit just sucks so much

totally. and the fact that it's happened before shouldn't diminish the shock.

keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:04 (eight months ago) link

Animals.

This is real. At first I didn’t believe it was because it’s so cartoonishly evil. But I’ve confirmed that it is real. https://t.co/pmAprHg4XM

— Mohammed El-Kurd (@m7mdkurd) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:04 (eight months ago) link

This conflict is getting to me like nothing else, the video of the doctor holding up the dead baby just floored me.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:06 (eight months ago) link

Israeli officials edited this tweet to remove the video, which it implied was proof that the Gaza hospital was struck by Islamic terrorists, after it was pointed out that the footage was time-stamped at least 40 minutes after the strike took place. pic.twitter.com/d4a4rUvrhJ

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:15 (eight months ago) link

More lies.

pentagon spokeswoman sabrina singh: “hamas is the one putting palestinians, those in gaza, at great risk. they are putting command and control units inside hospitals.” https://t.co/O9w8uqRmHq pic.twitter.com/8T8TzWHnCJ

— assistant inspector (@housetrotter) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:19 (eight months ago) link

I have a feeling that those who are in any way defending this action are going to find themselves very solidly on the wrong side of history. I don't see how you spin this as anything but monstrous with anyone who hasn't already divested themselves of their basic humanity.

Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:24 (eight months ago) link

If you had stood resolutely with Israel, you can still change you mind. You can see the bombing of a hospital and realize you’ve been misled. I was taught Zionism my whole childhood, until I learned more and changed my mind. You do not need to condone unspeakable atrocities.

— Stop Cop City (@JoshuaPHilll) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:39 (eight months ago) link

Really fucking vile

Brutal terror. The execution of defenseless civilians. Murdered infants, abducted children. Humiliated Holocaust survivors. It makes our blood run cold.

Israel has the right to defend itself against this. A state has a duty to protect its citizens. pic.twitter.com/TjQMcAkXQI

— Bundeskanzler Olaf Scholz (@Bundeskanzler) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:44 (eight months ago) link

I'm not sure of how the logistics work but I'm told this is a good place to donate:

https://support.anera.org/a/palestine-emergency

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:49 (eight months ago) link

My friend shared this with me: http://bit.ly/StopGazaGenocide

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:57 (eight months ago) link

If anybody wants to know what an actual level-headed mainstream media report on this should look like. It's physically possible. https://t.co/E3dAuhHoTs

— Séamus Malekafzali (@Seamus_Malek) October 17, 2023

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:02 (eight months ago) link

For a couple of seconds my brain made me think Scholz was condemning the hospital bombing and I thought maybe Israel really had gone too far now.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:05 (eight months ago) link

Sky has been good and the BBC has been good too from what I’ve seen. Al-Jazeera is difficult for me because of how graphic their videos are but usually they are excellent.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:05 (eight months ago) link

I mentioned upthread but a lot of posts since then: Yair Wallach has been a good voice on the area for a while for me, though his timeline atm is sharing accounts of the devastation, so obvious caveats apply. He also translates sources in Hebrew and is extremely critical of the government. I will always check his timeline if I’m unsure on something.

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:12 (eight months ago) link

xp ehhhhh one of those is definitely not true lol

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:12 (eight months ago) link

Well now I’m watching the BBC and what was shocking on Al-J on Sunday is now run of the mill background “colour” footage on the BBC on Tuesday.

IDF military saying on TV now they will produce evidence that the hospital bomb was Islamic Jihad

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:13 (eight months ago) link

Christian Fraser just abysmal helming rolling news - this IDF dude is handing him his own balls in front of an international audience

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:18 (eight months ago) link

Let Fraser host a game show, wtf is he doing here

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:18 (eight months ago) link

IDF military saying on TV now they will produce evidence that the hospital bomb was Islamic Jihad

Assuming they mean "produce" in the Hollywood sense.

read-only (unperson), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:18 (eight months ago) link

Fraser now grovelling for praise from the Israeli military after this humiliation, really sickening

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:20 (eight months ago) link

That’s not true, your dad fought a war with the Vietnamese and one with a tumor, and God didn’t let him win either of them. https://t.co/Lvf9kXtKYL

— Gayest Tone (@gayest_tone) October 16, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:55 (eight months ago) link

That ^^^^ MSNBC footage echoes what I was thinking earlier today... Israel is fucking peppered with rocket attacks from Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah for years now, and they seem to be at most inconvenience or causing minor damage... this one destroyed an entire hospital, and that, to me, is much more in line with a U.S. made fighter jet firing U.S. made munitions

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:57 (eight months ago) link

I am a few hours too late but Lily Dale's post is a very good post

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 00:04 (eight months ago) link

Alex Wagner gently guided Sen. Chris Murphy into paying tepid lip service to “minimizing” civilian casualties.

MSNBC: there to straighten your blood-stained tie.

keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:47 (eight months ago) link

The blast killing hundreds at a hospital in Gaza is deeply wrong. I grieve for each person lost. There’s no excuse for the deaths of people seeking care and those who treated them. International law is clear: Innocent civilians must be protected & have access to humanitarian aid.

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) October 18, 2023

a blast is wrong

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:49 (eight months ago) link

What was a blast doing there

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:14 (eight months ago) link

Israel, the cops of the Middle East

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:21 (eight months ago) link

stop it, blasts!

symsymsym, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:21 (eight months ago) link

Many x posts: thanks to Tracer Hand and Neanderthal for those links. Very helpful.

keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:28 (eight months ago) link

Just catching up, but yes, absolutely great post by Lily Dale. My partner is teaching a class this school term with many students who are Jewish, and though I have never seen or met any of them, it's been conveyed to me how this has been traumatizing twice over for them for very similar reasons.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:48 (eight months ago) link

so wrong of your hand to just hit your sister like that

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:49 (eight months ago) link

recently started playing this baseball game on my ipad, which is not something i normally do, but whatever. not gonna pay actual money, so i can view ads to earn gems to make my team better. generally these ads have been for other shitty games of varying complication/sexism . . . but now half of them are ISRAEL UNDER ATTACK

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:20 (eight months ago) link

It does look like Warren is saying the equivalent of guns don't kill people the impact of bullets does. Taking the agency out of the person who fired on the building. Do hope I'm reading that wrong, would hope for better from her.
Atomistic thought like that doesn't help.
There was intentionality from someone in firing on the hospital.

Stevo, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 06:28 (eight months ago) link

It's weasely cop speak, an Israeli-involved bombing.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 06:52 (eight months ago) link

Israeli spokespeople using the term Hamas/ISIS reminds me of when Unionist politicians in Northern Ireland used to constantly refer to Sinn Fein as Sinn Fein/IRA.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 07:08 (eight months ago) link

"An explosion" has cancelled Biden's visit.

BREAKING: Biden cancels his planned trip to Jordan after the summit with Arab leaders was cancelled

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 07:09 (eight months ago) link


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