That’s not true, your dad fought a war with the Vietnamese and one with a tumor, and God didn’t let him win either of them. https://t.co/Lvf9kXtKYL— Gayest Tone (@gayest_tone) October 16, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:55 (eleven months ago) link
That ^^^^ MSNBC footage echoes what I was thinking earlier today... Israel is fucking peppered with rocket attacks from Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah for years now, and they seem to be at most inconvenience or causing minor damage... this one destroyed an entire hospital, and that, to me, is much more in line with a U.S. made fighter jet firing U.S. made munitions
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:57 (eleven months ago) link
I am a few hours too late but Lily Dale's post is a very good post
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 00:04 (eleven months ago) link
Alex Wagner gently guided Sen. Chris Murphy into paying tepid lip service to “minimizing” civilian casualties.
MSNBC: there to straighten your blood-stained tie.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:47 (eleven months ago) link
The blast killing hundreds at a hospital in Gaza is deeply wrong. I grieve for each person lost. There’s no excuse for the deaths of people seeking care and those who treated them. International law is clear: Innocent civilians must be protected & have access to humanitarian aid.— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) October 18, 2023
a blast is wrong
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:49 (eleven months ago) link
What was a blast doing there
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:14 (eleven months ago) link
Israel, the cops of the Middle East
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:21 (eleven months ago) link
stop it, blasts!
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:21 (eleven months ago) link
Many x posts: thanks to Tracer Hand and Neanderthal for those links. Very helpful.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:28 (eleven months ago) link
Just catching up, but yes, absolutely great post by Lily Dale. My partner is teaching a class this school term with many students who are Jewish, and though I have never seen or met any of them, it's been conveyed to me how this has been traumatizing twice over for them for very similar reasons.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:48 (eleven months ago) link
so wrong of your hand to just hit your sister like that
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:49 (eleven months ago) link
recently started playing this baseball game on my ipad, which is not something i normally do, but whatever. not gonna pay actual money, so i can view ads to earn gems to make my team better. generally these ads have been for other shitty games of varying complication/sexism . . . but now half of them are ISRAEL UNDER ATTACK
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:20 (eleven months ago) link
It does look like Warren is saying the equivalent of guns don't kill people the impact of bullets does. Taking the agency out of the person who fired on the building. Do hope I'm reading that wrong, would hope for better from her.Atomistic thought like that doesn't help.There was intentionality from someone in firing on the hospital.
― Stevo, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 06:28 (eleven months ago) link
It's weasely cop speak, an Israeli-involved bombing.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 06:52 (eleven months ago) link
Israeli spokespeople using the term Hamas/ISIS reminds me of when Unionist politicians in Northern Ireland used to constantly refer to Sinn Fein as Sinn Fein/IRA.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 07:08 (eleven months ago) link
"An explosion" has cancelled Biden's visit.
BREAKING: Biden cancels his planned trip to Jordan after the summit with Arab leaders was cancelled— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) October 17, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 07:09 (eleven months ago) link
Guessing this was possibly the intent with the strike.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 07:35 (eleven months ago) link
At least 17 journalists have been killed already
https://cpj.org/2023/10/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/
For context that's more than in the entire Ukraine war so far
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 08:11 (eleven months ago) link
Really hearing this in Trump's voice
Biden has said Hamas has “committed evil atrocities that make Isis look somewhat rational.”
He said “We have to also bear in mind that Hamas does not represent all the Palestinian people, and has brought them only suffering.”
The US president also said “I’m deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday. Based on what I’ve seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you. But there’s a lot of people out there not sure, so we have to overcome a lot of things.”
― nashwan, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:07 (eleven months ago) link
FFS
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:18 (eleven months ago) link
He's not going to do shit.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:23 (eleven months ago) link
Nuseirat RC |Israeli warplanes bombed Al-Hajj Bakery. The bakery, one of the largest and among the remaining few providing essential bread to residents, had recently extended its hours to operate 24/7, to provide access to bread for the community2 murdered & others injured pic.twitter.com/hzKimtddr0— Younis Tirawi | يونس (@ytirawi) October 18, 2023
"the other team" just a disgusting way to put it, what a jolly game war is
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:31 (eleven months ago) link
The Israeli Air Force bombed dozens of buildings yesterday, as they themselves declare. Debating one building for the next week will keep people occupied so they don’t notice anything else going on, not only in Gaza but in Ramallah, Jerusalem, Hebron, Amman, Beirut, South Lebanon https://t.co/AIBnkFNd9t pic.twitter.com/ZIwdZrBWmR— تمار 🌴 Тама́р 🌴 תמר (@tamars) October 18, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:34 (eleven months ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink
The senile cunt is embracing Zionist scum, and cheering next week's ground war
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:38 (eleven months ago) link
President Biden appears to endorse Israel’s denial of responsibility for the explosion at the Gaza hospital. “Based on what I’ve seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you,” he said. “But there’s a lot of people out there not sure.” Israel has blamed Palestinian militants. Palestinian officials said Israel was responsible. Neither claim has been independently verified.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:44 (eleven months ago) link
The Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital was sheltering thousands of displaced people when it was bombed last night, killing hundreds of innocent Palestinians.Following the airstrike, media outlets including the BBC pointed the finger at the Israeli Air Force.🧵1/5 https://t.co/kFFCd1OazW— Andy McDonald MP (@AndyMcDonaldMP) October 18, 2023
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:53 (eleven months ago) link
a brief history of the IDF lying about stuff
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:54 (eleven months ago) link
So Starmer's death squad has their next target, Andy McDonald MP.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:57 (eleven months ago) link
A little cold fury from Ezra Klein.
https://the-ezra-klein-show.simplecast.com/episodes/israel-palestine-column-read
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 10:16 (eleven months ago) link
Ok.
BREAKING: 🇮🇱 IDF spokesman says an investigation has been opened into the bombing of Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital, adding that Islamic Jihad is responsible and death tolls were exaggerated.— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) October 18, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 10:51 (eleven months ago) link
brb going to open an investigation into the JFK shooting, by the way Oswald acted alone
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 11:23 (eleven months ago) link
"It wasn't us and also it wasn't that bad" an interesting stance to go for.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 11:27 (eleven months ago) link
It’s the only stance they can go for. If the destruction was as bad as reported, it can only have been Israel.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 11:30 (eleven months ago) link
Not sure either why if Hamas/Islamic Jihad accidentally bombed their own people they'd exaggerate the numbers who died?
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 11:42 (eleven months ago) link
In for a penny in for a pound? Let's blame the Israelis and, while we're at it, bump up the numbers of dead.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 11:44 (eleven months ago) link
I'm not an military expert, but assume the type of combatants the IDF are trying to blame here haven't the hardware capability to level a thousand plus capacity hospital in one accidental strike, unless maybe they were throwing everything they had at it in a sustained barrage of multiple "friendly fire" strikes - which stretches credibility.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:18 (eleven months ago) link
Provisionally this image does not look consistent with an airstrike. In daylight it’s clear that the hospital building itself was not leveled but rather the cars in the parking lot may have ignited. https://t.co/Tty30VtA8i— Murtaza Hussain (@MazMHussain) October 18, 2023
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:22 (eleven months ago) link
it’s a great thing that we all get our news from a worldwide game of social media telephone.
🧵Now that day has broken, and we're getting better evidence, I'm willing to share some PRELIMINARY thoughts on the al-Ahli hospital explosion. The photos of the scene are, to me, not consistent with an airstrike and are not consistent with claims that 500+ people were killed. pic.twitter.com/dzA3Bx71hr— Nathan Ruser (@Nrg8000) October 18, 2023
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:29 (eleven months ago) link
i mean luckily the professional media are there to remind us to be healthily suspicious of what anybody reports
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:33 (eleven months ago) link
to be very clear, none of this changes my opinion that the excessive air strikes of civilian targets and swift tactics are completely reprehensible, but i’m gonna use this example to remind myself to let all initial reports from the ground to breathe for a bit
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:34 (eleven months ago) link
*siege tactics
i agree with that, for sure, but the breathless guessing/misreporting isn't restricted to randos on social media, sadly
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:37 (eleven months ago) link
I'd rather wait than go to another twitter account. It's not only social media but multiple sources across media have reported this, with protests and rallies in many countries and diplomatic repercussions on the back of this.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:45 (eleven months ago) link
Very good to see.
S.I Cobas, a major rank-and-file union in the #logistics sector in #Italy, declares that its #workers “will oppose any shipping of weapons to Israel which they become aware of.” Trade unions, your action makes a material difference on the ground! #StopArmingIsrael #Palestine pic.twitter.com/RxWemzdVLL— Workers in Palestine (@WorkersinPales1) October 18, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:49 (eleven months ago) link
xp fair enough
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:53 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah I was gonna say, my source for this so far wasn't social media telephone but the BBC! Who of course also gets things wrong, to put it lightly, but I dunno if this would have played out differently in a pre-social media, post-24 hour news cycle era.
xpost
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:55 (eleven months ago) link
When the President of the US is acknowledging an explosion and loss of life and invoking international law I'm assuming he is not just watching TV or looking at twitter.
But maybe I'm wrong about that.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:02 (eleven months ago) link
depends which president, to be fair
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:06 (eleven months ago) link
I don't want to get too hung up on the hospital story, but this is on WSJ right now and it really looks clear the explosion was in the parking lot. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-biden/card/watch-footage-shows-destruction-after-deadly-gaza-hospital-compound-blast-mmFVg7Pa5PkKxZyHbtRX
I don't really understand why Israel would just randomly strike a hospital parking lot while not targeting anything else in the vicinity.
TBC, I also don't know if Palestinian officials were "lying" or if it was just fog of war/quick reactivity (I imagine communications aren't at their best in Gaza right now), just as I'm not entirely sure what happened with the 40 beheaded babies claim - could just as easily have been fog of war/telephone game as propaganda. Taking a deep breath and waiting a day or two is always a good idea.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:22 (eleven months ago) link