i don't really believe that tbc
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:21 (one year ago)
the local bonfire night and firework display stopped having an actual fire a few years ago and this year is having lasers instead of fireworks
― koogs, Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:22 (one year ago)
the only time I saw fire performers I was at a beach bar in Ko Phi Phi and the bar owner stole my shoes and had his mate chase me down the road with a machete, so not the best of associations
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:23 (one year ago)
My son recommended a podcast about someone who got bumped off ‘Band of Brothers’ by Tom Hanks as he had ‘dead eyes’. I listened to three of the and they were ok, but couldn’t face another 28 (!) of them.
― jaymc, Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:23 (one year ago)
in dodgy podcast news: eduard karl joseph michael marcus koloman volkhold maria habsburg-lothringen, archduke of austria and thus heir to the entire austro-hungarian empire (as founded by RADBOT OF KLETTGAU (985 – 1045), plus hungarian ambassador to the vatican, will be guesting shortly on the deprecated REST IS HISTORY podcast (it's already recorded, and is due to be broadcast on the very day that empire is restored no doubt) (given the politics of the podcasters)
― mark s, Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:37 (one year ago)
yes fact is mixed with sarcasm in that post and yet the founder of the habsburg line was indeed called RADBOT, ai will end us all
― mark s, Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:38 (one year ago)
Genres of podcasts currently on my phone:-Calm, serious interviews with jazz musicians-interviews with synth nerds-interviews with rappers and rap producers-comedian couple gives relationship advice-dude talking about cybersecurity-Seattle hipsters discussing their in-group slang-UK hipsters chatting about stuff-educational podcast about recording & mixing-NPR, NYT and pods in that style, you know the drill-bootlegs of an internet radio show featuring dudes talking about music and corporate food history-dudes talking about records-dudes taking about food-ladies talking about food-ladies talking about stuff-interviews with drummers
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:47 (one year ago)
Dead Eyes rules, and part of what's fun is how much he's able to wring out of the premise of the show, which is ostensibly about finding out why Tom Hanks fired him but is really about ambition and failure and making peace with things. Great podcast.
I will give it another go, but by the end of the third episode I was ‘dude, get over it’.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 22 October 2023 15:30 (one year ago)
It’s odd: when I was a blogger, I devoured blogs; when I was a music writer, I devoured music writing; but now that I’m a podcaster, I almost totally ignore other podcasts. In particular, I’ve sampled plenty of other UK music commentary podcasts, but none grabbed me and many irritated me. So the only podcast I now follow is the one that an old friend hosts (Chart Music).
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 22 October 2023 15:56 (one year ago)
xps oh yeah two people randomly shooting the shit is exactly the same as a painting or a piece of music, rmde
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 22 October 2023 16:51 (one year ago)
Joe Pera has a podcast, just sayin'
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 October 2023 16:58 (one year ago)
i’m completely podcasted outthere are only four genres of podcast btw. many are combinations of these but there are only four.- the interview- the mystery- information straight into my veins- the friendship simulator
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:01 (one year ago)
yeah sorry CAAL, podcasts aren’t an artform
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:01 (one year ago)
i absolutely do not care about podcasts. someone says "did you listen to x" and it's a podcast, my brain shuts off immediately. the only one I've ever really liked listening to was the dolly parton one.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:13 (one year ago)
lol this statement is meaningless
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:17 (one year ago)
have you all heard of YouTube? You can look at people talking at you
― brimstead, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:20 (one year ago)
podcasts are a medium for transmitting various forms of art, including music and poetry
xpost sounds scary
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:20 (one year ago)
I would agree that podcasts are folklore, still not so sure about art. how many times do y'all re-listen to a podcast?
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:21 (one year ago)
I relisten to certain podcasts in the same way that I'll rewatch certain shows, but I also don't see why replay value should be the criterion for art
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:24 (one year ago)
is a conversation art? serious question.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:26 (one year ago)
I kinda liked "You're Wrong About" when it was a going thing but then it started to grate. "Every Little Thing" had a similar trajectory.
"Lingthusiasm" and "No Such Thing as a Fish" scratch some of the same itches (I guess what Tracer would call information straight into my veins).
Plus various sources of British history. Every once in a while the "Stuff You Missed"/"Stuff You Should Know" can be ok. "99% Invisible" and "Reply All" could sometimes work
Musicwise, "20K Hertz," "Strong Songs," Switched-on Pop," and "Cocaine and Rhinestones."
But as noted I go through times when I want words pouring into my ears and times when I don't.
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:26 (one year ago)
If it is enjoyed as such by a listener then yes, but there's many podcasts that aren't conversations.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:29 (one year ago)
I realize we live in the post-Duchamp world where art is in the eye of the beholder, but to me categorizing (to use a best case example) an interesting audio-book that is effectively a well-researched encyclopedia article in the "art" category strains that definition.
otoh it is absolutely folklore, oral transmission of culture.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:34 (one year ago)
all that this conversation has taught me is that my statement about podcast people being cultlike and weird in their boosterism is 100% true and is much of what turns me off about them
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:36 (one year ago)
well but again you are creating a category of what a podcast is that doesn't apply to hundreds and hundreds of examples of the medium
thus my original assertion that "podcasts are a medium for transmitting various forms of art, including music and poetry".
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:37 (one year ago)
podcasts are just downloadable radio shows. my two podcasts are* immersive multi-hour mixes of music and sounds from every year of recorded sound* mixes of field recordings, old cassettes, personal stories, interviews with friends & family and original musicif you hate listening to two amateur comedians jabber away for two hours about nothing, fine, me too. if you don't want to listen to audiobooks, fine. if you think 99% of podcasts are awful, sure, agreed. if you believe the entire medium can never be art, then go fuck yourself.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:38 (one year ago)
Yeah I was going to say the radio show comparison. That’s always been the one that made sense to me. To argue that they’re not worthwhile because they “aren’t art” is just a bizarre line of thinking.
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:40 (one year ago)
the whole “people who watch tv are dumb” thing… please
― brimstead, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:42 (one year ago)
what about chapbook people
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:43 (one year ago)
i utilized the term “artform” because that’s what your strawman was doing, CAAL. your podcasts sound fine. gyac, i’m going to kindly ask you to never interact with me or anything i’ve said on here ever again.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:45 (one year ago)
_all that this conversation has taught me is that my statement about podcast people being cultlike and weird in their boosterism is 100% true and is much of what turns me off about them_what about chapbook people
CAAL that helps, since I def consider radio shows to be art! Not trying to be rude here, I just have zero familiarity with the medium.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:46 (one year ago)
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:47 (one year ago)
You didn’t even make the original argument scrolling back up?
table you sound like "I don't actually have a tv" except more like "i dont actually have a tv and if you ever watch it then you're a moron" and if you are as much a dick to your acquaintances as you have been to me (and gyac now) then I'm sure they are as turned off by you as you are by them.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:49 (one year ago)
fwiw CAAL, that does help— I think that when podcasts went more from “mixes and weird audio experiences “ to “talk radio and NPR wannabes” is when i lost the thread. i still adore some old podcast mixes from a decade or so ago.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:49 (one year ago)
also fwiw: I actually like you, CAAL, and apologize for being a dick. i just dislike podcasts.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:54 (one year ago)
they can't be all bad, at least now I know which dinosaur would win in a fight
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:55 (one year ago)
CaaL fwiw I don’t think of your projects as podcasts even though that’s the delivery form. like i don’t think of the Resident Advisor mix series as podcasts even though it’s very successful, long-lived etc. Your stuff would work equally well as CD releases or spotify tracks or even YouTube videos! (have you ever thought about this?) but i’ll admit rss is pretty handy
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:57 (one year ago)
it’s also that i’m using “podcasts” as a metonym for “podcasts that mimic talk radio or NPR.” That seems to be the bigger issue in my posting, so once again, apologies to CAal and etc.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:58 (one year ago)
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:11 (one year ago)
try me
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:12 (one year ago)
i mean ‘friendship simulator’ is kind of a cheat because probably 70% of all podcasts could fit in this category even stuff like hollywood handbook or hello from the magic tavern
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:13 (one year ago)
Well I mainly listen to office hours which is a call-in show, it does have an interview element kind of — but there are ones that are sketches or improv or game show format. Unless like who wants to be a millionaire a friendship simulator I’m not sure those count
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:23 (one year ago)
office hours live is friendship simulator + interview
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:28 (one year ago)
But the other types I mentioned (sketch/game show &c)? It’s a vague enough category that you can make anything fit I guess but I do find it interesting that the “parasocial” meme seems to be applied to podcast versions of things that exist in other media without that assumption. Nobody is claiming that have I got news for you is replicating the experience of being down the pub with mates (cue someone posting clueless columnist saying exactly that)
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:37 (one year ago)
i think it's because you've got these people up close in your ears, without a studio audience, it feels more intimate. like hey it's my guys, it's that time of week again when i get to hang with my guys
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 20:52 (one year ago)
Added 13 Days of Halloween to Pocket Casts this morning, spoooooooky story time
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 22 October 2023 21:31 (one year ago)
I REALLY really don't think this post got the attention that it deserves!!
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length),
― scott seward, Sunday, 22 October 2023 22:19 (one year ago)
i WOULD listen to a podcast episode that elaborated on that story, actually.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 October 2023 22:20 (one year ago)