Things You Just Don't Care About

i don't really believe that tbc

the local bonfire night and firework display stopped having an actual fire a few years ago and this year is having lasers instead of fireworks

the only time I saw fire performers I was at a beach bar in Ko Phi Phi and the bar owner stole my shoes and had his mate chase me down the road with a machete, so not the best of associations

My son recommended a podcast about someone who got bumped off ‘Band of Brothers’ by Tom Hanks as he had ‘dead eyes’. I listened to three of the and they were ok, but couldn’t face another 28 (!) of them.

in dodgy podcast news:
eduard karl joseph michael marcus koloman volkhold maria habsburg-lothringen, archduke of austria and thus heir to the entire austro-hungarian empire (as founded by RADBOT OF KLETTGAU (985 – 1045), plus hungarian ambassador to the vatican, will be guesting shortly on the deprecated REST IS HISTORY podcast (it's already recorded, and is due to be broadcast on the very day that empire is restored no doubt) (given the politics of the podcasters)

yes fact is mixed with sarcasm in that post and yet the founder of the habsburg line was indeed called RADBOT, ai will end us all

Genres of podcasts currently on my phone:
-Calm, serious interviews with jazz musicians
-interviews with synth nerds
-interviews with rappers and rap producers
-comedian couple gives relationship advice
-dude talking about cybersecurity
-Seattle hipsters discussing their in-group slang
-UK hipsters chatting about stuff
-educational podcast about recording & mixing
-NPR, NYT and pods in that style, you know the drill
-bootlegs of an internet radio show featuring dudes talking about music and corporate food history
-dudes talking about records
-dudes taking about food
-ladies talking about food
-ladies talking about stuff
-interviews with drummers

Dead Eyes rules, and part of what's fun is how much he's able to wring out of the premise of the show, which is ostensibly about finding out why Tom Hanks fired him but is really about ambition and failure and making peace with things. Great podcast.

I will give it another go, but by the end of the third episode I was ‘dude, get over it’.

It’s odd: when I was a blogger, I devoured blogs; when I was a music writer, I devoured music writing; but now that I’m a podcaster, I almost totally ignore other podcasts. In particular, I’ve sampled plenty of other UK music commentary podcasts, but none grabbed me and many irritated me. So the only podcast I now follow is the one that an old friend hosts (Chart Music).

xps oh yeah two people randomly shooting the shit is exactly the same as a painting or a piece of music, rmde

Joe Pera has a podcast, just sayin'

i’m completely podcasted out

there are only four genres of podcast btw. many are combinations of these but there are only four.

- the interview
- the mystery
- information straight into my veins
- the friendship simulator

yeah sorry CAAL, podcasts aren’t an artform

i absolutely do not care about podcasts. someone says "did you listen to x" and it's a podcast, my brain shuts off immediately. the only one I've ever really liked listening to was the dolly parton one.

yeah sorry CAAL, podcasts aren’t an artform

lol this statement is meaningless

have you all heard of YouTube? You can look at people talking at you

podcasts are a medium for transmitting various forms of art, including music and poetry

xpost sounds scary

I would agree that podcasts are folklore, still not so sure about art. how many times do y'all re-listen to a podcast?

I relisten to certain podcasts in the same way that I'll rewatch certain shows, but I also don't see why replay value should be the criterion for art

is a conversation art? serious question.

I kinda liked "You're Wrong About" when it was a going thing but then it started to grate. "Every Little Thing" had a similar trajectory.

"Lingthusiasm" and "No Such Thing as a Fish" scratch some of the same itches (I guess what Tracer would call information straight into my veins).

Plus various sources of British history. Every once in a while the "Stuff You Missed"/"Stuff You Should Know" can be ok. "99% Invisible" and "Reply All" could sometimes work

Musicwise, "20K Hertz," "Strong Songs," Switched-on Pop," and "Cocaine and Rhinestones."

But as noted I go through times when I want words pouring into my ears and times when I don't.

is a conversation art? serious question.

If it is enjoyed as such by a listener then yes, but there's many podcasts that aren't conversations.

I realize we live in the post-Duchamp world where art is in the eye of the beholder, but to me categorizing (to use a best case example) an interesting audio-book that is effectively a well-researched encyclopedia article in the "art" category strains that definition.

otoh it is absolutely folklore, oral transmission of culture.

all that this conversation has taught me is that my statement about podcast people being cultlike and weird in their boosterism is 100% true and is much of what turns me off about them

well but again you are creating a category of what a podcast is that doesn't apply to hundreds and hundreds of examples of the medium

thus my original assertion that "podcasts are a medium for transmitting various forms of art, including music and poetry".

podcasts are just downloadable radio shows. my two podcasts are

* immersive multi-hour mixes of music and sounds from every year of recorded sound
* mixes of field recordings, old cassettes, personal stories, interviews with friends & family and original music

if you hate listening to two amateur comedians jabber away for two hours about nothing, fine, me too. if you don't want to listen to audiobooks, fine. if you think 99% of podcasts are awful, sure, agreed. if you believe the entire medium can never be art, then go fuck yourself.

Yeah I was going to say the radio show comparison. That’s always been the one that made sense to me. To argue that they’re not worthwhile because they “aren’t art” is just a bizarre line of thinking.

the whole “people who watch tv are dumb” thing… please

all that this conversation has taught me is that my statement about podcast people being cultlike and weird in their boosterism is 100% true and is much of what turns me off about them

what about chapbook people

i utilized the term “artform” because that’s what your strawman was doing, CAAL. your podcasts sound fine.

gyac, i’m going to kindly ask you to never interact with me or anything i’ve said on here ever again.

_all that this conversation has taught me is that my statement about podcast people being cultlike and weird in their boosterism is 100% true and is much of what turns me off about them_

what about chapbook people

CAAL that helps, since I def consider radio shows to be art! Not trying to be rude here, I just have zero familiarity with the medium.

i utilized the term “artform” because that’s what your strawman was doing, CAAL. your podcasts sound fine.

gyac, i’m going to kindly ask you to never interact with me or anything i’ve said on here ever again.

You didn’t even make the original argument scrolling back up?

table you sound like "I don't actually have a tv" except more like "i dont actually have a tv and if you ever watch it then you're a moron" and if you are as much a dick to your acquaintances as you have been to me (and gyac now) then I'm sure they are as turned off by you as you are by them.

fwiw CAAL, that does help— I think that when podcasts went more from “mixes and weird audio experiences “ to “talk radio and NPR wannabes” is when i lost the thread. i still adore some old podcast mixes from a decade or so ago.

also fwiw: I actually like you, CAAL, and apologize for being a dick. i just dislike podcasts.

they can't be all bad, at least now I know which dinosaur would win in a fight

CaaL fwiw I don’t think of your projects as podcasts even though that’s the delivery form. like i don’t think of the Resident Advisor mix series as podcasts even though it’s very successful, long-lived etc. Your stuff would work equally well as CD releases or spotify tracks or even YouTube videos! (have you ever thought about this?) but i’ll admit rss is pretty handy

it’s also that i’m using “podcasts” as a metonym for “podcasts that mimic talk radio or NPR.” That seems to be the bigger issue in my posting, so once again, apologies to CAal and etc.

i’m completely podcasted out

there are only four genres of podcast btw. many are combinations of these but there are only four.

- the interview
- the mystery
- information straight into my veins
- the friendship simulator

try me

i mean ‘friendship simulator’ is kind of a cheat because probably 70% of all podcasts could fit in this category even stuff like hollywood handbook or hello from the magic tavern

Well I mainly listen to office hours which is a call-in show, it does have an interview element kind of — but there are ones that are sketches or improv or game show format. Unless like who wants to be a millionaire a friendship simulator I’m not sure those count

office hours live is friendship simulator + interview

But the other types I mentioned (sketch/game show &c)? It’s a vague enough category that you can make anything fit I guess but I do find it interesting that the “parasocial” meme seems to be applied to podcast versions of things that exist in other media without that assumption. Nobody is claiming that have I got news for you is replicating the experience of being down the pub with mates (cue someone posting clueless columnist saying exactly that)

i think it's because you've got these people up close in your ears, without a studio audience, it feels more intimate. like hey it's my guys, it's that time of week again when i get to hang with my guys

Added 13 Days of Halloween to Pocket Casts this morning, spoooooooky story time

I REALLY really don't think this post got the attention that it deserves!!

the only time I saw fire performers I was at a beach bar in Ko Phi Phi and the bar owner stole my shoes and had his mate chase me down the road with a machete, so not the best of associations

― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length),

i WOULD listen to a podcast episode that elaborated on that story, actually.