I don't think I ever heard sketchy until maybe 1996.
On the topic of fur babies, this is kind of a niche one, but as an owner of black cats, I'm not a fan of the term "voids".
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 28 October 2023 00:02 (eleven months ago) link
Sketchy in the sense of 'dodgy' or 'highly questionable' has been around longer than I have and I'm 68.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 28 October 2023 03:49 (eleven months ago) link
Yes - that's how I use it. Dodgy is exactly what it means.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 28 October 2023 04:54 (eleven months ago) link
the more recent use cringe as adjective or noun is fascist and I hate it so much. it's based on a contempt for "weakness" and any hint of nonconformity and all the usual right wingntargets. leftists adopting it is a total capitalulation to fascism
respectuflly i cannot tell if this is a serious post or some kind of parody
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 28 October 2023 04:56 (eleven months ago) link
This is cool though when used to describe incredible hirsute human infants
this gives me Galapagos (Vonnegut) flashbacks. I should re-read that one. I never feel like re-reading Vonnegut; I loved each book the first time and don't really want to go back.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 28 October 2023 05:01 (eleven months ago) link
Galapagos is, I think, an underappreciated book.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 15:00 (eleven months ago) link
One of my favorites of his
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 28 October 2023 15:11 (eleven months ago) link
but as an owner of black cats, I'm not a fan of the term "voids".
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 28 October 2023 15:18 (eleven months ago) link
i had no idea that "sketch" went back to the 70s! i thought it was a millennial invention.
We used to use "sketch" in Ireland to mean keeping a lookout for authority. If you were keeping sketch and you saw the teacher coming, you'd hiss "SKETCH!" at everyone and they would stop messing.
I hate it when people are doing old-timey Shakespeare talk and they put "eth" on the end of the wrong words. "I was shooketh." No.
― trishyb, Saturday, 28 October 2023 15:22 (eleven months ago) link
I just saw this in the Guardian and wondered if they'd just made it up...
“LFI’s strategy of conflictualising and systematically obstructing everything in parliament has also really angered its partners,”
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 October 2023 08:12 (eleven months ago) link
I just realised what Aussies use instead of ya'll! ya's! I.e. Whaddaya's doin? whaddayasreckon? canya's come over here?
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Monday, 30 October 2023 05:40 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah our accent is close to Irish, cf “yiz”
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 30 October 2023 07:38 (eleven months ago) link
yeah "gutted" is annoying and I associate it with the british and hyperbole, personally; it's akin to calling everything "brilliant". why go to these extremes.― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 27 October 2023 16:39 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 27 October 2023 16:39 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
British professional sportspeople have two emotional states: gutted or chuffed.
― fetter, Monday, 30 October 2023 11:05 (eleven months ago) link
"oh, and by the way"
― anvil, Monday, 30 October 2023 11:13 (eleven months ago) link
or just by the way in general
the british and hyperbole
One of my favorite examples of this is people using "You're a star" at work. Uh, really? I just did my job and answered your q. Not sure that really makes me a star lol.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 30 October 2023 11:21 (eleven months ago) link
“It is what it is” is not a term I hate, but it is very very silly. You’ll find it in nearly every baseball interview ever, and I chuckle to myself whenever I hear/read it. It’s part of my regular lexicon, but usual said with a smirk to a friend just to be a pest
Also, chuffed and gutted are the only two descriptive words one needs and I need to use them more (particular chuffed, what a banger (do we hate “banger” in here?))
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Monday, 30 October 2023 12:52 (eleven months ago) link
Hyperbole in the workplace in a positive matter? Absolutely classic. Would love to be called a star for my regular work tbh
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Monday, 30 October 2023 12:53 (eleven months ago) link
Reading the top of this thread thoughts:
1. Didn’t know other countries said “veggies”2. I didn’t know Ben Shapiro wasn’t the first person to say “p-word”3. Bring back “touch base” (and you know what? Let’s say p-word more, it’s so silly and fun)
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Monday, 30 October 2023 12:57 (eleven months ago) link
I'm guessing/hoping the p-word is not what it means in the UK
― Alba, Monday, 30 October 2023 13:03 (eleven months ago) link
Oh okay I didn’t know that was a thing. Definitely not silly or fun
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:09 (eleven months ago) link
I don't know what the p-word means on either side of the Atlantic tbh.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:15 (eleven months ago) link
... oh hold on, no that is not advisable in the UK.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:16 (eleven months ago) link
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Monday, October 30, 2023 8:53 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It feels demeaning in some way when it's for really simple things. If it were something amazing that would be one thing but for literally everyday tasks I'm responsible for it's weird.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:31 (eleven months ago) link
sometimes it can be used as a pretext to shit all over you later.
subtext being 'i said nice stuff to you before so i'm not a monster now that i'm saying really nasty stuff'
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:34 (eleven months ago) link
Agree with ENBB - saying someone is a star generally comes from above; there’s no way the receptionist is telling eg. a director that they’re a star for some small nice thing but a director handed a cup of tea by the receptionist will absolutely tell them what a star they are.
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:31 (eleven months ago) link
I called the woman who went out of her way to make me up a bag of donuts a star the other day and I definitely meant it
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:35 (eleven months ago) link
I mean most words can be used to patronise this is true but sometimes you're just legit elated when somebody does something for you
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:37 (eleven months ago) link
anyone can call anyone a star ime
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link
Todd Rundgren can
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:51 (eleven months ago) link
I completely get what ENBB and suzy are talking about, lol it’s pretty much my mother’s mo
― brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2023 15:52 (eleven months ago) link
context matters I guess. I do often do what NV does and lavish people who take care of me with praise.
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:58 (eleven months ago) link
in conclusion,
favorite Sly & The Family Stone song
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:59 (eleven months ago) link
re British hyperbole and "brilliant", I have heard British people complaining about Americans saying everything is "awesome"
idc about either fwiw
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link
back in mIRC #metal chat in the eons before social media one of my friends used to get tired of my other friend calling every music release "amazing" so he'd type AMAZINGS! mockingly every time he used the word.
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:06 (eleven months ago) link
Suzy - yes!! I can't explain it really I just really really hate it. I do lots of things that would actually warrant the comment but it's more often said after things like literally sending one email or getting someone a coffee and I almost always cringe and just wish they'd said thanks.
I have also heard British people complain about awesome but lol come on. Hyperbole is their specialty!
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:29 (eleven months ago) link
I think I probably say "brilliant" more sarcastically than sincerely tbh
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link
In the work setting where you are a worker and the ‘star’ compliment comes from someone up the hierarchy, it’s cringe. In other settings where a person is serving you, and they do something extra, you calling them a star isn’t as bad (but is still a compliment given to someone who is of service to you and not someone who you are serving).
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:38 (eleven months ago) link
Fuckin' magic, by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASGgn8bNQuA
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:49 (eleven months ago) link
star is bad, but rock star may be even worse
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link
because that's not only cringe, but also it's rockist
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:29 (eleven months ago) link
no one at work has ever called me a pop star :'(
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:35 (eleven months ago) link
Cheers for that, amazing stuff, you're a top DJ producer
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:56 (eleven months ago) link
Great work! You're one of Rolling Stone's Top 250 Best Guitarists!
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 30 October 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link
Being told you're a star is the "that's a lovely dress you're wearing" of work compliments, it's sort out of randomly doled-out unthoughtful praise, because the idea of consistently valuing somebody who works for you is too scary and difficult
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 30 October 2023 19:38 (eleven months ago) link
the proper response of course being "thanks, now let's talk about my pay"
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:39 (eleven months ago) link
i just think that you can imagine a phrase used every day in pleasant interactions across the world as fulfilling that function in specific cases and you're well within your rights to do so
id stop you short of "this is therefore what that phrase means" because its really not
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link
I hear 'you're a star' all the time at work. It's phatic speech, innit? - shorthand for 'thanks for helping me out/sorting that thing/generally being amenable and not a dick'.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 30 October 2023 20:06 (eleven months ago) link
I'm with ENBB and Suzy here -- it's equivalent to when I am working as a server and I do what someone asked me to do (my job) and they say "you're the best"
The first few times in my life that someone told me that I was "the best" I was sincerely flattered and felt seen. When someone says that after I bring them what they asked me to bring them, it feels hollow and condescending.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 October 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link