I don't know what the p-word means on either side of the Atlantic tbh.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:15 (eleven months ago) link
... oh hold on, no that is not advisable in the UK.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:16 (eleven months ago) link
Hyperbole in the workplace in a positive matter? Absolutely classic. Would love to be called a star for my regular work tbh
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Monday, October 30, 2023 8:53 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It feels demeaning in some way when it's for really simple things. If it were something amazing that would be one thing but for literally everyday tasks I'm responsible for it's weird.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:31 (eleven months ago) link
sometimes it can be used as a pretext to shit all over you later.
subtext being 'i said nice stuff to you before so i'm not a monster now that i'm saying really nasty stuff'
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:34 (eleven months ago) link
Agree with ENBB - saying someone is a star generally comes from above; there’s no way the receptionist is telling eg. a director that they’re a star for some small nice thing but a director handed a cup of tea by the receptionist will absolutely tell them what a star they are.
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:31 (eleven months ago) link
I called the woman who went out of her way to make me up a bag of donuts a star the other day and I definitely meant it
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:35 (eleven months ago) link
I mean most words can be used to patronise this is true but sometimes you're just legit elated when somebody does something for you
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:37 (eleven months ago) link
anyone can call anyone a star ime
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link
Todd Rundgren can
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:51 (eleven months ago) link
I completely get what ENBB and suzy are talking about, lol it’s pretty much my mother’s mo
― brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2023 15:52 (eleven months ago) link
context matters I guess. I do often do what NV does and lavish people who take care of me with praise.
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:58 (eleven months ago) link
in conclusion,
favorite Sly & The Family Stone song
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:59 (eleven months ago) link
re British hyperbole and "brilliant", I have heard British people complaining about Americans saying everything is "awesome"
idc about either fwiw
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link
back in mIRC #metal chat in the eons before social media one of my friends used to get tired of my other friend calling every music release "amazing" so he'd type AMAZINGS! mockingly every time he used the word.
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:06 (eleven months ago) link
Suzy - yes!! I can't explain it really I just really really hate it. I do lots of things that would actually warrant the comment but it's more often said after things like literally sending one email or getting someone a coffee and I almost always cringe and just wish they'd said thanks.
I have also heard British people complain about awesome but lol come on. Hyperbole is their specialty!
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:29 (eleven months ago) link
I think I probably say "brilliant" more sarcastically than sincerely tbh
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link
In the work setting where you are a worker and the ‘star’ compliment comes from someone up the hierarchy, it’s cringe. In other settings where a person is serving you, and they do something extra, you calling them a star isn’t as bad (but is still a compliment given to someone who is of service to you and not someone who you are serving).
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:38 (eleven months ago) link
Fuckin' magic, by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASGgn8bNQuA
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:49 (eleven months ago) link
star is bad, but rock star may be even worse
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link
because that's not only cringe, but also it's rockist
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:29 (eleven months ago) link
no one at work has ever called me a pop star :'(
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:35 (eleven months ago) link
Cheers for that, amazing stuff, you're a top DJ producer
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 30 October 2023 17:56 (eleven months ago) link
Great work! You're one of Rolling Stone's Top 250 Best Guitarists!
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 30 October 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link
Being told you're a star is the "that's a lovely dress you're wearing" of work compliments, it's sort out of randomly doled-out unthoughtful praise, because the idea of consistently valuing somebody who works for you is too scary and difficult
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 30 October 2023 19:38 (eleven months ago) link
the proper response of course being "thanks, now let's talk about my pay"
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:39 (eleven months ago) link
i just think that you can imagine a phrase used every day in pleasant interactions across the world as fulfilling that function in specific cases and you're well within your rights to do so
id stop you short of "this is therefore what that phrase means" because its really not
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link
I hear 'you're a star' all the time at work. It's phatic speech, innit? - shorthand for 'thanks for helping me out/sorting that thing/generally being amenable and not a dick'.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 30 October 2023 20:06 (eleven months ago) link
I'm with ENBB and Suzy here -- it's equivalent to when I am working as a server and I do what someone asked me to do (my job) and they say "you're the best"
The first few times in my life that someone told me that I was "the best" I was sincerely flattered and felt seen. When someone says that after I bring them what they asked me to bring them, it feels hollow and condescending.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 October 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link
YES
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 30 October 2023 22:10 (eleven months ago) link
It's too much and feels phoney. Thanks really is sufficient.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 30 October 2023 22:11 (eleven months ago) link
"Thanks, I really appreciate it."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 30 October 2023 22:11 (eleven months ago) link
I think the offensive part is in the “you’re a/the (superlative)” — “thank you” is more than enough and it is nice when someone says they appreciate something I did. Because the focus is on them, not me. I’d appreciate this minimal probably required interaction not representing my personal worth. I know ppl do it in a tossed-off way and still I think it’s worth noting the alternatives are superior for everyone involved in the interaction.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 October 2023 22:18 (eleven months ago) link
I’m even a fan of “I appreciate you” because it’s not a referendum am I good y/n it’s an appreciation.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 October 2023 22:20 (eleven months ago) link
I love “I appreciate you.” This is the worst fucking thread. :-(
― brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2023 22:54 (eleven months ago) link
I don't think I have ever heard "I appreciate you" outside the southern U.S., but I am a fan.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 30 October 2023 23:03 (eleven months ago) link
I have, and it’s a perfectly nice thing to say.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 October 2023 23:09 (eleven months ago) link
When I drove a school bus many of the kids would give me a card on the last day of school, usually handmade and 9 times out of 10 the inscription (crayon or felt tip marker) said I was "the best school bus driver in the world". Even though roughly half of the other drivers got the same cards with the same inscriptions. I knew the sentiment was sincere and unforced because only half the drivers got them.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 30 October 2023 23:12 (eleven months ago) link
Different topic: "What's the best X, and why is it Y?"
E.g., "What's the best Dylan album, and why is it Blood on the Tracks?"
It's like the formula where you ask yourself a question and then answer your own question. Especially if you're pitching yourself a softball that is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
"Do I deplore this X? Yes. Do I also oppose this Y? Yes."
"Uh, Senator, the question was about Z."
― Breakfast at Tiffani Amber Thiessen's (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 30 October 2023 23:13 (eleven months ago) link
"appreciate you" is nice and uncondescending imo but i usually hear it in the context of getting in trouble for something
once had a "real" "corporate" job for about six months (company was sold) and within a week of being hired was called a "rock star" for returning an email. wow i thought: the big time!
afraid i really like "it is what it is" tho i almost never say it. the inanity is the point-- a momentary humble pause in our frenzy to express-- tho of course there is a cop/gangster usage of it that attempts instead to impose that humility on another.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 00:00 (eleven months ago) link
I thought of one. "tell me you ___ without telling me you ___". hate it
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 10:40 (eleven months ago) link
Wrong answers only.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 10:51 (eleven months ago) link
“A very surreal experience” used to refer to literally anything outside the confines of one’s regular life
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 11:26 (eleven months ago) link
i was just thinking about how when i was a kid one of the worst things you could be called was "conceited". "She is so conceited!". and how i never hear that word anymore. always seemed like a weird word for kids to use. "stuck up" made more sense.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:44 (eleven months ago) link
"I hope this email finds you well."
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:48 (eleven months ago) link
"He is him" after any athlete makes a fine play in sports
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:49 (eleven months ago) link
xp "She is so conceited!". usually meant "how DARE she feel good about herself" or "who does she think she is" if a guy was full of himself it was (ime) usually totally ok, even desirable. i am glad to see all of this fall out of favor. it's so mean and cynical and usually hurled at girls.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:52 (eleven months ago) link
Beginning in late 2020 I started including "Hope you're staying safe and doing well." in most emails. I don't always do that still, but sometimes I do.
― read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:59 (eleven months ago) link
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/how-your-email-finds-me-emily-bernstein.jpg
― jaymc, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 15:01 (eleven months ago) link
[SITE OF MASSACRE] STRONG
and/or a football game suggesting resilience in the face of mechanized death
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 November 2023 06:34 (eleven months ago) link