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― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 12:14 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3BzzNUyBRE
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 12:17 (eleven months ago) link
Wankin' on Bobo
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 12:18 (eleven months ago) link
ha if hunt3r wont go the thread, then the thread-- oh no!
― BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin)
everybody remembers the album as being called "The Clones of Dr. Wankenstein", but all the copies of the album clearly say "The Clones of Dr. Wankenstain". This is an example of the "Mandela Effect", which has in turn led to widespread conspiracy theories about alternate timelines.
To me, though, it's all about the pronunciation of "Wankenstain" on the iconic title track:
We love to wank you, Wankenstain! Your wank is the best!Take my body, give it the mind to wank with the rest.
It's spelled "Wankenstain", but it's prounced "stein", not "stain".
That's not to say that we're not in some fucked-up alternate timeline, or that there might not be some timeline where it's spelled "Wankenstein". I've always thought of it as "Wankenstain". I mean, there's a pun there, right? That's the whole point.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:22 (eleven months ago) link
Further notes:
Various online sources give the lyrics to the second line as "Wank my body and give it the mind...", however, the official lyrics, as found in the 1996 Parliament/Wankadelic box set "Give Up the Wank: Tear the Roof off the Wanker" confirm that the lyrics do in fact go "Take my body, give it the mind...". Another argument against the so-called "Mandela Effect" is that we sometimes _misremember things_. If our memories were to be trusted, the lyrics to all of Parliament/Wankadelic's songs would just be a load of wanks.
It's also of note that Parliament's use of "Wankenstain" to refer to the doctor accords with the terminology used by Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley's classic novel _Wankenstein_ - and note here that Shelley _does_ refer to the novel as "Wankenstein" and not "Wankenstain", another probably reason for the confusion. The "Wankenstain" pun just wouldn't have worked in Shelley's day - although "wank" to refer to masturbation was well-attested by this point, the use of "wankstain" to refer to the discharge produced by masturbation had not come into widespread use yet.
Shelley, it is often noted by pedants, used the term "Wankenstein" exclusively to refer to Doctor Victor von Wankenstein. However, it is equally incorrect to refer to "Wankenstein's Monster". It is hardly credible to refer what Shelley consistently refers to as "the Creature" as a "monster" - based on context clues within Shelley's original novel, it is unlikely to be more than nine inches - hardly what I would call "monstrous" proportions! Why, I've taken...
Ahem.
In any event, understanding of Shelley's work has perhaps suffered a little bit from later adaptations, adaptations which significantly alter her source material. In particular, the visual appearance of the creature in James Whale's iconic 1931 film bears no resemblance whatsoever to the creature in Shelley's book. In addition, the behavior of Whale's creature is entirely different. While in Whale's movie, the creature makes no more than guttural outbursts, in the original novel, the creature is intelligent and articulate. I'm certainly sympathetic to the transmasculine contemporary reading of "Wankenstein", but it's not one that's necessarily reflective of Shelley herself.
Indeed, "Wankenstein" is one of those works of art which has engendered (no pun intended) both transmasculine _and_ transfeminine readings. Unlike with other works to garner such interpretations such as "The Addams Family" and "The Legend of Zelda", transmasculine and transfeminine meanings accrue to different versions of the work. The transmasculine reading primarily takes as its source material the film by James Whale, a cisgender homosexual man. In contrast, the transfeminine reading, as expressed in the seminal "trans studies" essay "My Words to Victor Frankenstein Above the Village of Chamounix: Performing Transgender Rage" (take a shot), takes as its origin the original novel written by Mary Shelley, a cisgender heterosexual woman (making allowances for the fact that both "cisgender" and "heterosexual" are anachronistic terms when applied to Shelley's era.)
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 16:09 (eleven months ago) link
Don't kill us, we'll kill you
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:13 (eleven months ago) link
this is another anachronism but I'm pretty sure shelley was "bi" by today's standards (presumably still "cis" although the book does give me pause)
― Left, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link
Pete or Percy B?
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link
pete but I'm illiterate
― Left, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 21:40 (eleven months ago) link
I meant mary though
― Left, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 21:41 (eleven months ago) link
that's what i get for not doing my research lol
also i have no idea when "wank" and "wankstain" are first attested in the english language, i made that up
_is_ pete shelley bisexual? i don't actually care but i'm asking anyway
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 13:58 (eleven months ago) link
Yep.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link
yes I think he even used the word
(as for mary she was passionately in love with the men she was devoted to and very good friends with the women because that's how historical evidence works)
if wankstain was actually coined by one of that crowd it would probably be byron - mary could be gross but that kind of gross seems more in his wheelhouse
― Left, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:20 (eleven months ago) link
Byron loved his choirboys.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:42 (eleven months ago) link
"the"
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 16:11 (eleven months ago) link
what is Sister Rosetta Tharpe singing from 2:25 here? No looking it up, just what do you hear?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkD0hDi9ZIo
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 18:25 (eleven months ago) link
this traindon't pull no wiggasuh uhthis train!
(admittedly, this doesn't make the rhyme work in the end)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:58 (eleven months ago) link
"yeah, this is a clean train"
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:59 (eleven months ago) link
(no worries, friends. flagging myself. cheers.)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Thursday, 2 November 2023 00:00 (eleven months ago) link
"this train don't pull no winkers"
it's a bit garbled. she probably got momentarily distracted and her mouth couldn't catch up with the lyric. that's common enough, but once you get to the rhyme with "whiskey drinkers" it makes sense if you imagine men salaciously winking at young women & them winking back.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 2 November 2023 01:21 (eleven months ago) link
I thought it might be "pull no anchors", as in people unwilling to commit?
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:45 (eleven months ago) link
come on now. there's no way it's anything but "wankers"
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 November 2023 08:30 (eleven months ago) link
misheard lyrics is where ilx is a viking
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 2 November 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link
your mum
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:06 (eleven months ago) link
lol
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:23 (eleven months ago) link
heartbreaking that that wasn't the first response
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link
Agree.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 2 November 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/DgdfZ6R22M— law dog, esq. (@ggooooddddoogg) November 2, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 November 2023 22:39 (eleven months ago) link
when AIP released the film in the US they referred to him as "The Smog Monster".
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 3 November 2023 03:14 (eleven months ago) link
Red Motorcycle Football Club?
― brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2023 21:55 (eleven months ago) link
first you eat the albatross, then you eat the rich.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:33 (eleven months ago) link
*explaining to the wife that you will now stop washing the dishes or yourself for the rest of your life as you monitor the internet for posts that offend humanity*
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― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 November 2023 11:59 (eleven months ago) link
just post the Twitter links
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 23:13 (ten months ago) link
Agreed, if you’re gonna have a schtickt, may as well own it and let the haters hate
― #1 García Fan (H.P), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 23:19 (ten months ago) link
if you show up to a protest with an american flag you are also a fascist so
― budo jeru, Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:18 (ten months ago) link
“…will never get a vote from me…”WE KNOW LOL
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 November 2023 22:39 (ten months ago) link
next ted talk hot topic: from scholarly term to censored playground insult, this is the history of the word retarded and how i built my company around it.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Monday, 13 November 2023 05:17 (ten months ago) link
we todd ed
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 November 2023 14:36 (ten months ago) link
Hi "mental retardation" was and is the actual medical term for my son's condition.
Calling it a "developmental delay" is not really an interesting improvement.
Because despite social connotations, "retarded" and "delayed" are synonymous. They both just mean "late." Or "later than expeected."
There isn't a good word for "never."
We don't really have good words for "your child will never speak, read, or write." We don't have good words for "your child will never dress himself or become toilet trained or feed himself."
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 November 2023 17:25 (ten months ago) link
right in step with you YMP
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 13 November 2023 18:26 (ten months ago) link
love to you ymp.
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Monday, 13 November 2023 20:41 (ten months ago) link
Thanks Hunt3r and Aimless, you folks are part of my lifeline
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 November 2023 20:59 (ten months ago) link
Without making any lazy assumptions - I sort of know your world, YMP. I have to do an industrial clean in the bathroom at least twice a day and assist a 22 yr old to get dressed every day. Still, I despise that word, but do get what you are saying and peace to you.
I discovered at an EHCP meeting a couple of years back that references in his college dairy to "private time" meant he has a room where he can privately masturbate, which doesn't involve him exposing himself to anybody, he basically humps a cushion with his clothes on. It's hard to explain to some people how stuff like this is part of the human condition and extremely important for an autistic young adult to self-regulate and have a stable existence. But yeah, I just felt like posting it here!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 00:43 (ten months ago) link
Calzino, thanks for sharing that (as embarrassing and unpleasant as it must be to do so). I have no idea how we will navigate that, but I fully expect it to be just about as undignified and as awkward.
The thing I struggle to tell people is that for us, there's no finish line. There's no "done." I will almost certainly die before my son is a grownup. It's just one of the things I have to accept and live with. Peace to you and yours.
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:34 (ten months ago) link
sorry my post may require some context-
i was going to put that on a thread where sidebar discussion had ventured off into how stupid and meaningless ted talks have become. in addition, i'm also of the opinion that they've become a soapbox for completely terrible people promoting their predatory companies. hence, my pitch as posted above (and also why i backed off and put it here). the only malice intended was towards ted talks.
puffin, i already considered you a rad person but that respect has just about quintupled after learning this about you. thank you.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 23:46 (ten months ago) link
TED talks are shitstains on the garment of academia
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 00:15 (ten months ago) link
Joaquin after midnight
Joaquin in memphis
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 01:47 (ten months ago) link
Hey babe take a Joaquin the wild side
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 02:33 (ten months ago) link
there's really good ted talks, but they usually involve the speaker playing an instrument or an already established performer goofing around. a good example of a good one of these is mark applebaum's. idk anything else about him, but i obviously want to play his DID instrument. but i can't, so i try to play guitar - and that's what ?i think? ted talks were supposed to be in the first place: motivational speakers. anyway, they're mostly overwhelmingly terrible.
maybe read this if you would like further clarification of my earlier post. i am not trying to push buttons. i promise: part of my liberal use of the word comes from desensitization to it in childhood. one relative's nickname for me was "the retard" so even though i knew what it meant, it became meaningless pretty early on. i'm not looking for pity or sympathy, just wanted to give a little extra info. the joke i was making in that post is that only complete assholes use the word for any other reason than its proper definition. and to bring this back around to the crux: how many times have you been listening to a ted talk and thought, "this guy's an asshole"?
again: full apologies.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 02:54 (ten months ago) link