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Wankin' on Bobo

― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin)

everybody remembers the album as being called "The Clones of Dr. Wankenstein", but all the copies of the album clearly say "The Clones of Dr. Wankenstain". This is an example of the "Mandela Effect", which has in turn led to widespread conspiracy theories about alternate timelines.

To me, though, it's all about the pronunciation of "Wankenstain" on the iconic title track:

We love to wank you, Wankenstain! Your wank is the best!
Take my body, give it the mind to wank with the rest.

It's spelled "Wankenstain", but it's prounced "stein", not "stain".

That's not to say that we're not in some fucked-up alternate timeline, or that there might not be some timeline where it's spelled "Wankenstein". I've always thought of it as "Wankenstain". I mean, there's a pun there, right? That's the whole point.

Further notes:

Various online sources give the lyrics to the second line as "Wank my body and give it the mind...", however, the official lyrics, as found in the 1996 Parliament/Wankadelic box set "Give Up the Wank: Tear the Roof off the Wanker" confirm that the lyrics do in fact go "Take my body, give it the mind...". Another argument against the so-called "Mandela Effect" is that we sometimes _misremember things_. If our memories were to be trusted, the lyrics to all of Parliament/Wankadelic's songs would just be a load of wanks.

It's also of note that Parliament's use of "Wankenstain" to refer to the doctor accords with the terminology used by Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley's classic novel _Wankenstein_ - and note here that Shelley _does_ refer to the novel as "Wankenstein" and not "Wankenstain", another probably reason for the confusion. The "Wankenstain" pun just wouldn't have worked in Shelley's day - although "wank" to refer to masturbation was well-attested by this point, the use of "wankstain" to refer to the discharge produced by masturbation had not come into widespread use yet.

Shelley, it is often noted by pedants, used the term "Wankenstein" exclusively to refer to Doctor Victor von Wankenstein. However, it is equally incorrect to refer to "Wankenstein's Monster". It is hardly credible to refer what Shelley consistently refers to as "the Creature" as a "monster" - based on context clues within Shelley's original novel, it is unlikely to be more than nine inches - hardly what I would call "monstrous" proportions! Why, I've taken...

Ahem.

In any event, understanding of Shelley's work has perhaps suffered a little bit from later adaptations, adaptations which significantly alter her source material. In particular, the visual appearance of the creature in James Whale's iconic 1931 film bears no resemblance whatsoever to the creature in Shelley's book. In addition, the behavior of Whale's creature is entirely different. While in Whale's movie, the creature makes no more than guttural outbursts, in the original novel, the creature is intelligent and articulate. I'm certainly sympathetic to the transmasculine contemporary reading of "Wankenstein", but it's not one that's necessarily reflective of Shelley herself.

Indeed, "Wankenstein" is one of those works of art which has engendered (no pun intended) both transmasculine _and_ transfeminine readings. Unlike with other works to garner such interpretations such as "The Addams Family" and "The Legend of Zelda", transmasculine and transfeminine meanings accrue to different versions of the work. The transmasculine reading primarily takes as its source material the film by James Whale, a cisgender homosexual man. In contrast, the transfeminine reading, as expressed in the seminal "trans studies" essay "My Words to Victor Frankenstein Above the Village of Chamounix: Performing Transgender Rage" (take a shot), takes as its origin the original novel written by Mary Shelley, a cisgender heterosexual woman (making allowances for the fact that both "cisgender" and "heterosexual" are anachronistic terms when applied to Shelley's era.)

Don't kill us, we'll kill you

this is another anachronism but I'm pretty sure shelley was "bi" by today's standards (presumably still "cis" although the book does give me pause)

Pete or Percy B?

pete but I'm illiterate

I meant mary though

that's what i get for not doing my research lol

also i have no idea when "wank" and "wankstain" are first attested in the english language, i made that up

_is_ pete shelley bisexual? i don't actually care but i'm asking anyway

Yep.

yes I think he even used the word

(as for mary she was passionately in love with the men she was devoted to and very good friends with the women because that's how historical evidence works)

if wankstain was actually coined by one of that crowd it would probably be byron - mary could be gross but that kind of gross seems more in his wheelhouse

Byron loved his choirboys.

"the"

what is Sister Rosetta Tharpe singing from 2:25 here? No looking it up, just what do you hear?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkD0hDi9ZIo

this train
don't pull no wiggas
uh uh
this train!

(admittedly, this doesn't make the rhyme work in the end)

"yeah, this is a clean train"

(no worries, friends. flagging myself. cheers.)

"this train don't pull no winkers"

it's a bit garbled. she probably got momentarily distracted and her mouth couldn't catch up with the lyric. that's common enough, but once you get to the rhyme with "whiskey drinkers" it makes sense if you imagine men salaciously winking at young women & them winking back.

I thought it might be "pull no anchors", as in people unwilling to commit?

come on now. there's no way it's anything but "wankers"

misheard lyrics is where ilx is a viking

your mum

lol

heartbreaking that that wasn't the first response

Agree.

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— law dog, esq. (@ggooooddddoogg) November 2, 2023

when AIP released the film in the US they referred to him as "The Smog Monster".

Red Motorcycle Football Club?

first you eat the albatross, then you eat the rich.

*explaining to the wife that you will now stop washing the dishes or yourself for the rest of your life as you monitor the internet for posts that offend humanity*

fp

just post the Twitter links

Agreed, if you’re gonna have a schtickt, may as well own it and let the haters hate

if you show up to a protest with an american flag you are also a fascist so

“…will never get a vote from me…”


WE KNOW LOL

next ted talk hot topic: from scholarly term to censored playground insult, this is the history of the word retarded and how i built my company around it.

we todd ed

Hi "mental retardation" was and is the actual medical term for my son's condition.

Calling it a "developmental delay" is not really an interesting improvement.

Because despite social connotations, "retarded" and "delayed" are synonymous. They both just mean "late." Or "later than expeected."

There isn't a good word for "never."

We don't really have good words for "your child will never speak, read, or write." We don't have good words for "your child will never dress himself or become toilet trained or feed himself."

right in step with you YMP

love to you ymp.

Thanks Hunt3r and Aimless, you folks are part of my lifeline

Without making any lazy assumptions - I sort of know your world, YMP. I have to do an industrial clean in the bathroom at least twice a day and assist a 22 yr old to get dressed every day. Still, I despise that word, but do get what you are saying and peace to you.

I discovered at an EHCP meeting a couple of years back that references in his college dairy to "private time" meant he has a room where he can privately masturbate, which doesn't involve him exposing himself to anybody, he basically humps a cushion with his clothes on. It's hard to explain to some people how stuff like this is part of the human condition and extremely important for an autistic young adult to self-regulate and have a stable existence. But yeah, I just felt like posting it here!

Calzino, thanks for sharing that (as embarrassing and unpleasant as it must be to do so). I have no idea how we will navigate that, but I fully expect it to be just about as undignified and as awkward.

The thing I struggle to tell people is that for us, there's no finish line. There's no "done." I will almost certainly die before my son is a grownup. It's just one of the things I have to accept and live with. Peace to you and yours.

sorry my post may require some context-

i was going to put that on a thread where sidebar discussion had ventured off into how stupid and meaningless ted talks have become. in addition, i'm also of the opinion that they've become a soapbox for completely terrible people promoting their predatory companies. hence, my pitch as posted above (and also why i backed off and put it here). the only malice intended was towards ted talks.

puffin, i already considered you a rad person but that respect has just about quintupled after learning this about you. thank you.

TED talks are shitstains on the garment of academia

Joaquin after midnight

Joaquin in memphis

Hey babe take a Joaquin the wild side

there's really good ted talks, but they usually involve the speaker playing an instrument or an already established performer goofing around. a good example of a good one of these is mark applebaum's. idk anything else about him, but i obviously want to play his DID instrument. but i can't, so i try to play guitar - and that's what ?i think? ted talks were supposed to be in the first place: motivational speakers. anyway, they're mostly overwhelmingly terrible.

maybe read this if you would like further clarification of my earlier post. i am not trying to push buttons. i promise: part of my liberal use of the word comes from desensitization to it in childhood. one relative's nickname for me was "the retard" so even though i knew what it meant, it became meaningless pretty early on. i'm not looking for pity or sympathy, just wanted to give a little extra info. the joke i was making in that post is that only complete assholes use the word for any other reason than its proper definition. and to bring this back around to the crux: how many times have you been listening to a ted talk and thought, "this guy's an asshole"?

again: full apologies.

Stevie Nicks married Vanessa Carlton (to her husband)

(I mean she officiated the wedding)

YMP/Calzino/Aimless - My cousin (and one of my fave ever people) was retarded and for a very long time I struggled with what to refer to him as because I wasn't sure but I think mentally retarded really was the used and most appropriate term. He couldn't speak, read or write and needed help with almost everything. Towards the end he could have done with some "private time" because that was becoming an issue. These are very real things that have to be considered at a certain age. I can't imagine how difficult it is for all of you. Lots of love.

Joaquin originally appeared as Leaf, a name apparently inspired by raking.