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thanks, felicity

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link

xp it's true.

I am still thinking about the tweet you linked from the Palestinian doctor xyzzzz

felicity, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

I think this was the one where everything just stopped for me. I will never get this post out of my head.

I don't even want to check whether he's alive.
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Belal Aldabbour
@Belalmd12
Soon, the last sliver of electricity and connection will be exhausted. If I die, remember that I, we, were individuals, humans, we had names, dreams, and achievements, and our only fault was that we were just classified as inferior.
10:58 am · 11 Oct 2023
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xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link

Oh man

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link

do we know what happened to them

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link

Just looked at the account of this Palestinian doctor. Not liked or posted anything since Oct 25th. Don't know beyond that

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link


Marwa Fatafta مروة فطافطة
@marwasf
Health ministry just announced that the main power generator at the Indonesian Hospital has fully stopped putting patients and the injured at imminent risk.

They’ll turn on a secondary generator but to survive they’ll cut down on some functions and services. 1/

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 November 2023 11:52 (one year ago) link

Reflecting on Gaza's open air prison with such a network of things we recognise: schools, hospitals, a university, places of worship, so much housing, much of its construction helped by other countries...lots of it reduced to rubble now.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 November 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

trying really hard to ignore amy schumer (and celeb opinions in general) but she just keeps on being the worst. no accident of course that of everyone who’s called her out, she went after the one actress who’s young, black and Asian

https://x.com/aasian/status/1719717713700962720?s=46&t=Tla_umwUcZ65VjpyvvZGOQ

Roz, Thursday, 2 November 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

jfc, that's vile.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 November 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

They lost Piers Morgan. Hell is freezing over in the middle of global warming https://t.co/s5rw0aNuBn

— Chanda Prescod-Weinstein (@IBJIYONGI) November 1, 2023

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

god, Amy Schumer is the worst.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 November 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

guys this is insane. how can we all go on?

horseshoe, Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link

“This is for Chandler Bing.”

I love that we still have a sense of humor. I hope we never lose it. pic.twitter.com/wUwOOWMuUN

— Hillel Fuld (@HilzFuld) November 1, 2023

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link

Someone needs to take away Schumer's fucking phone away. Genuinely amazed that she managed to turn this into something all about her. The post yesterday written on her notes app talking about being the most famous female comedian was just. Jesus. Also, hi HS. It is and i have no fucking idea tbh.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

Hi Erica! ❤️wish I were greeting you under better circumstances!

horseshoe, Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/25/1208227647/israel-gaza-hamas-jewish-palestinian-peace-activists-lod

In the city of Haifa last week, police broke up a rally in support of Gaza. "I am giving you precise instructions: zero tolerance for any incident of incitement — not by a nurse, not by a doctor, not by a singer," said Israel's police commissioner, Kobi Shabtai, in a video posted to the Arabic-language TikTok channel for the police. "Anyone who wants to sympathize with Gaza is welcome to get on a bus and go there."

After the left-wing journalist Israel Frey recited the Jewish mourner's prayer for dead civilians in Gaza, he says a right-wing mob attacked his home and threatened his wife and children. In a video released on social media last week, he said he was in hiding. "They went after me because I talked about the need for empathy and prayer for Gaza's children," he said.

Against that backdrop, Shofet and Standing Together's national co-director Rula Daood arrived at the community center in Lod with a group of volunteers. The main event was a donation drive for people suffering economically from the war — many shops and restaurants have been closed and tourism has dried up. About a dozen people — some wearing headscarves and modest clothing, others in V-neck T-shirts and open-toed shoes — chatted in a mix of Arabic and Hebrew as they packed up boxes with basic groceries.

The activists also brought a pile of posters to put up in town, if it felt safe to do so. The day prior, Standing Together activists in Jerusalem tried to put up stickers with a message of Jewish-Arab solidarity, and it didn't go well. "The police just came in and arrested two of our activists," said Daood.

symsymsym, Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

"Anyone who wants to sympathize with Gaza is welcome to get on a bus and go there."

special place in hell, etc.

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

him and the Chandler Bing jokesters

symsymsym, Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

alleged mosque arsonist put in charge of Israel's West Bank committee:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ultranationalist-mk-tzvi-succot-appointed-head-of-knesset-west-bank-subcommittee/

cool cool

symsymsym, Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

The Turkish Friendship Hospital, Gaza's only hospital for cancer patients, ran out of fuel yesterday. Patients are already dying.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gazas-only-cancer-hospital-goes-out-service-health-officials-2023-11-01/

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 November 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link

US House approves $14.3 billion in aid to Israel as it fights a war against Hamas, setting up a showdown in the Senate https://t.co/nKJu5ew5wM

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) November 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 November 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link

Hind Hassan
@HindHassanNews
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The 27th Palestinian journalist, killed by Israel in Gaza since Oct 7th was buried this morning. A microphone & press jacket was placed on top of his body. Colleagues in press jackets carried him to rest . The bravest of the brave. Rest in Power Mohammed Abu Hattab

Clear target of Palestinian infrastructure and intellectual capacity: journalists, doctors.

It leaves a damaged people, potentially pushed to the desert who will bide their time and fight back one day, with even less to lose.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 10:26 (one year ago) link

Hind Khoudary
@Hind_Gaza
If anything happens to me, remember I am not a number.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 11:09 (one year ago) link

Palestinian workers are being returned to Gaza from Israel. There is video footage of interview and this tweet (at the bottom of the thread) has a summary of remarks from the worker and this is what I am copying:

Former Sailor on the USS Liberty
@kabflap
They say that they just picked them up day one and took all their belongings and money and questioned them/tortured them(using electric chair) they wanted to know if they(the workers) knew about the resistance and rocket production

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

On Wednesday, Dr. Abu Safyia said, he was working with a colleague in the hospital’s neonatal intensive-care unit — one of two units that still had power amid a severe fuel shortage — when casualties from Jabaliya started arriving.

When they rushed down to the emergency room to help, he said, his colleague was stunned to see that two of her own children were among the dead. Her 9-year-old and 7-year-old had been killed in their home, he said, along with several of her siblings and relatives.

“We are working at a place where at any moment we expect our children, spouses, siblings or friends to come in in pieces,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/02/world/middleeast/voices-airstrikes-jabaliya-hospital.html

Some children could not be identified because of the severity of their injuries, he said. The hospital’s morgue was so full that people were stacking bodies on top of one another.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 November 2023 12:53 (one year ago) link

The entire population of the West Bank village of Zanota is moving. They say they have no choice after being harassed and threatened by Israeli settlers.

Sky's @ramsaysky speaks to people forced to move.

Read more here: https://t.co/MnCuWZ9t4g pic.twitter.com/k8xzSv85BX

— Sky News (@SkyNews) November 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

every time you link to that unreadable Nazi website, I hit the FP button

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link

you're addicted, get a grip

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link

Soon there will be a war between the Twitter users and the Twitter haters on this board.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 3 November 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

Though I do wonder if an Elon-free link to a Rupert Murdoch organ is much better

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 3 November 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link

every time you link to that unreadable Nazi website, I hit the FP button

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 bookmarkflaglink

you're addicted, get a grip

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 bookmarkflaglink

There are anarchists, leftwingers, PALESTINIANS POSTING AS THEIR HOMES ARE BOMBED...and news orgs like Sky News.

Many others on here link to twitter. Do you fp them as well?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link

Murdoch hasn't owned Sky for 5 years, it's owned by Comcast

Colonel Poo, Friday, 3 November 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

Don't know about Comcast but most media orgs are owned by oligarchs and capitalists or are heavily conflicted as the government of the day has an influence (BBC).

Twitter allows for a lot of interesting voices and aggregations of media output from n+1, 972.com to mainstream outlets, etc. To say it's "Nazi shit" is to tell me you have nothing in your head. You completely misunderstand it, despite changes in ownership and algorithms.

And I have to say it again:

Palestinians are using it.

And a lot of ilxors still use it. Not sure why I am picked on.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

you get a grip sleeve

Left, Friday, 3 November 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

Alan MacLeod
@AlanRMacLeod
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10 mins after this meeting ended, Israel bombed an ambulance convoy outside a hospital.

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The meeting: Netanyahu - Blinken

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link

great thread from sana saeed articulating why the recent ny-er article about hamas propaganda rubbed me the wrong way (thread reader link for you musk haters)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1719481693826875483.html

Roz, Friday, 3 November 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

Great piece (will look to use threadapp where necessary, so thanks Roz)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link

What I read today:

Israel's Minister of Heritage, Amihai Eliyahu, posted a video of a bulldozer clearing wreckage in North Gaza. The caption, in Hebrew, reads: "The north of the Gaza Strip, more beautiful than ever”, “blow up and flatten everything, delightful. After we are done, we allocate the lands of Gaza to the soldiers fighting and the settlers who lived in Gush Katif. It was corrected on another social media site (the Nazi website Twitter) that the first lines of his post were from a piece of poetry. I found the original post, and read some of the comments as translated by Google. The most consistent tone of the posts was from individuals telling Eliyahu to step down, to resign his position, because apparently he historically voted against increased funding for the IDF; he is not seen as hawkish enough.

It is interesting to me that last Sunday I spent much of the day refreshing and refreshing to see if Israel was actually going to follow through and fire missiles at al-Quds hospital. Today, three hospitals were hit. And a school, 50 reported killed (by the Hamas-run health ministry) in the latter instance.

It is also interesting that on Wednesday, when the Jablaiya refugee camp was hit, it was seen perhaps as "now? is this the turning point? now? surely ~this~ is a war crime, no?" and the same refugee camp was bombarded twice more, and two others, since then.

I guess my internal voice is parsing all this information much more quickly than anything I'm posting here, but I am very, very scared; I am scared of what I see is "the worst case scenario" which is "other nations entering into this war". Regardless of whatever outcome of such an event, this would absolutely mean "the most lives lost". As the bombardment of Gaza continues, the very idea that seemed "unthinkable" just a week ago, a few days ago-- that Netanyahu and his cabinet intend to annex Gaza-- it is not only becoming "the more overwhelmingly likely intention of all of this", and also, notably, "no longer the worst case scenario". As Gaza becomes bombarded to complete irreparability, and the Palestinian people are exploded and traumatised in unthinkable ways, the very idea that the population might be permanently evacuated (to Sinai, for now, and then probably a joint re-settlement program worked out between Egypt and UK and US and Canada and prob Germany and prob Qatar and maybe Saudi, too, in the end) seems merciful, rather than disastrous, to consider. I genuinely feel that this is Netanyahu's tactic; USA might be saying "no" to the idea today, but as time passes and the bombardment increases, it will eventually prove to be the most humanitarian option.

As for what's going on in West Bank, idk what to say. Haaretz, the "reliably left" Israeli paper, described yesterday the increase in the settlement efforts as being "good news"; the sight of Ben-Givr smilingly handing out rifles to civilians back on Oct 10, reading that this idea that "illegal settlement of the West Bank is OK" has been proudly stated publicly by Israeli officials for years, and years. My own seemingly-sensible argument for a secular democratic confederacy of Israelis and Palestinians, that none of my now ex-friends have been able to assail with any real factual responses or any arguments that don't eventually fall back on "it says in the Bible", it's becoming increasingly myopic in my eyes, like: just because I don't personally value the life of one ethnic group over another doesn't mean this attitude is shared by the rest of the world.

Preach The Crapen (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 November 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link

Thank you for the link, appreciated

Preach The Crapen (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link

Echo that thanks.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 November 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link

I have seen a few bits of dissent within Israel by Israelis, a few videos of that about.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 November 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

Al-Azhar University in north Gaza has been bombed. No universities left.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 November 2023 11:10 (one year ago) link

Read it and weep.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1720588042451218918.html

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 November 2023 11:37 (one year ago) link

This doesn't relate to "other countries" so much, so I'll put it on here: excerpts from Reuters report, minus some detail re immediate aftermath of bombings, statements of survivors, also of political and military figures (for all that, follow link at end of this):

...Palestinian witnesses said Israel hit Al-Fakhoura school in Jabalia, where thousands of evacuees were living, on Saturday morning.

The Israeli military said a preliminary inquiry suggested it had not targeted the location "but the explosion may have been a result of IDF fire aimed at another target". The circumstances were "under review," it added...

Reuters footage of the aftermath showed broken furniture and other belongings lying on the ground, patches of blood on the ground and on food, and people crying.

Juliette Touma, director of communications for the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency (UNRWA), confirmed the U.N-run school, which is in the Gaza City area, had been hit.

"At least one strike hit the schoolyard where there were tents for displaced families. Another strike hit inside the school where women were baking bread," Touma said by phone.

The ministry of health in Gaza said another Israeli missile strike killed two women at the door of the Nasser Children's Hospital. Several more people were injured, it said. There was no immediate Israeli response to that report.

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant told a press conference that Israel's forces had delivered a "hard blow" to Hamas, destroying communications hubs, bunkers and tunnel networks over the past two days and killing 12 commanders since the start of the war.

Israel last month ordered all civilians to leave the northern part of Gaza, including Gaza City, and head to the southern part of the enclave.

The military said it would enable Palestinians to travel on a main Gaza highway, the Salah a-Din road, during a three-hour window on Saturday afternoon. "If you care about yourself and your loved ones, heed our instruction to head south," it said in a social media post in Arabic.

Several residents told Reuters they were too afraid to use the road. Many posted warnings on social media that Israeli tanks were stationed there.

U.S. Special Envoy David Satterfield said in Amman that between 800,000 to a million people had moved to the south of the Gaza Strip, while 350,000-400,000 remained in northern Gaza City and its environs.

srael has imposed a full blockade on Gaza and allowed very little aid in from Egypt, saying it fears it would be stolen by Hamas. Satterfield said there were no recorded instances of Hamas seizing aid.

In what appeared to presage a widening of Israel's ground offensive, the military issued footage showing armoured bulldozers churning up northern Gaza areas in what it described as "creating access routes for forces".

A combined tank and combat engineering unit carried out a "pinpoint raid" in the southern Gaza Strip "to map out buildings and neutralise explosives", it said.


https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-arab-leaders-meet-over-gaza-palestinian-deaths-mount-2023-11-03/

dow, Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link

Azad Essa
@azadessa
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According to this report, the Israeli Builder's Association has asked India to send 50,000-90,000 workers to replace the Palestinians whose work permits were revoked. Palestinian workers make up 25% of the sector in Israel. The sector is preparing for a world without Palestinians

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 November 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link

There’s also a lot of talk about oil and liquid natural gas rights in what is now Palestinian territory.

https://unctad.org/news/unrealized-potential-palestinian-oil-and-gas-reserves

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 4 November 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link


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