Israel/Palestine post 10/7 - follow-on events/thoughts as relate to other countries

Don't know much about this organization but this seems like one way to counteract those who try to stir hate:

The pro-Palestine protesters made it clear that the masked neo-Nazis were not welcome, chanting “Nazis Go Home,” and “show your faces, you fucking cowards,” the Daily Montanan reported.

That is just one of the tactics that organizers of pro-Palestine solidarity protests can use to make clear to neo-Nazis that they are not welcome in that movement, according to Ben Lorber, an extremism expert who is working on a book about antisemitism. “It is vital for Palestine liberation organizers and progressive activists to recognize and counter far-right actors who stand diametrically opposed to the movement’s principles and goals,” Lorber wrote in a recent guide for organizers.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7zx5a/neo-nazis-hijack-pro-palestine-protest-mike-enoch

Personally, I find it much better to see an effort to recognize and counteract this kind of thing, rather than dismissing or denying that it exists

that's encouraging

Black-Jewish Alliance ✊🏿✡
@BlackJewishA
Police are attempting to arrest Jews in prayer.

We shout “let us pray” for Palestine.

The police have confiscated copies of our speeches.

GET YOUR COP HANDS OFF OUR JEWISH COMRADES

Video of harassment within that tweet.

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2023/11/02/frick-museum-in-pittsburgh-postpones-islamic-art-exhibition-over-fears-it-would-appear-insensitive-or-traumatic-amid-gaza-war

“When war broke out in the Middle East, we were as heartbroken as everyone, and we realised that we were about to open an exhibition that a forgiving person would call insensitive, but for many people, especially in our community, would be traumatic.”

it's so insensitive and traumatic that muslims exist

this whole thing is so devastating.

This is where stuff like "It would be insensitive to publish this book about Soviet dissidents at this time" leads to.

yeah that is obviously ridiculous

An Israeli air strike on the Bureij refugee camp today

https://x.com/ramabdu/status/1720067423238308122

If you use this thread on anything going on in Gaza or Israel.

Israel, Palestine & the Levant rolling events: Oct 23 on

The dissonance in reading about individuals expressing concerns about anti-Semitic violence rising in North America while 400 Arab children are dying every day in Gaza is, frankly, enraging

I have seen videos of anti-Semitic violence over the past week. These videos are exclusively Jewish peace protesters getting harassed by cops in North America, Orthodox Jewish peace protesters getting beaten by Israeli Police in Israel

My heart is ripped in two for my Jewish friends who are saying “not in my name” and being disowned, being called “self-hating Jews”, or— as the Times Of Jerusalem said in an op-ed two days ago: “anti-Zionists who claim to be Jewish are as Jewish as the Westboro Baptist Church that claimed to be Christian”

Jfc just because you’re saying “stop bombing Gaza” doesn’t make you “anti-Zionist”, to begin with

I was bothered by a now ex-friend who told me “how can you call it Gazan genocide when they (the Gazans) procreate so quickly”; fine, first I will block you and never speak to you again, second I will call it something else. What, tho? Israel already doesn’t acknowledge a nakba exists. Anti-war Jews are liberally calling it a holocaust, a shoah; those terms are not allowed to me as a non-Jew.

I feel like one can’t even call it “war” or “a conflict”; Gideon Levy argued that it is neither of these things, that it is a violent occupation, nothing more

Haaretz today reports Netanyahu’s latest speech: “nothing can stop us”.

Anyway, 9000 Gazans dead today, 3 hostages returned, congrats everyone

“anti-Zionists who claim to be Jewish are as Jewish as the Westboro Baptist Church that claimed to be Christian”

I mean ... fwiw, I do think a very not insignificant number of Christians are let's just say in Westboro's ballpark, if not on the same base

"I was bothered by a now ex-friend who told me “how can you call it Gazan genocide when they (the Gazans) procreate so quickly”"

So much hate.

(xp Not the point of the thread, I know, sorry)

"The dissonance in reading about individuals expressing concerns about anti-Semitic violence rising in North America while 400 Arab children are dying every day in Gaza is, frankly, enraging"

posters on this board are worried about their children being bullied at school for being Jewish

Sorry if my posts were emotional or “in the wrong thread” I shouldn’t post when I’m in a news consumption crying spiral, and I shouldn’t read pro-violence NYT articles (or the NYT at all), I am going to call a friend

I agree with everything else in your post, but you can be horrified by the massacre of innocents in Gaza (and the West Bank) while also being worried about anti-semitic violence

Tbh, the biggest “holy shit what are you guys doing” anti-Semitism concern over the past week has been seeing people on social media cheering on “Yemen declares war on Israel” when it’s the Houthis declaring war, not the Yemeni gvmt, and if anybody is cheering for Houthis then we have a big fucking problem

I have been seeing the odd report of AS attacks across Europe now, like this one.

A Moldovan couple arrested for allegedly spray-painting Stars of David on a Paris school last week reportedly told investigators they were acting on orders from an “individual in Russia.”https://t.co/VvJOmmoCAh

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) November 2, 2023

in the larger world, the anti-semitism is probably largely being driven by people who care less about the plight of the Palestinian people and care more about being anti-semitic, and seeing an opportunity for an opening to be a bit more free with their bigotry.

"zionist jews" now trending on twitter, that's that shit i don't like

Caitlyn Jenner's dead name is also trending there today, which says it all

sorry meant to post on the "is this anti-semitism?" thread

I thought this was pretty good:

You are criticizing Israel wrong. Here’s how to do it correctly. pic.twitter.com/DiwBTJOuiG

— Matt Lieb?? (@mattlieb) October 28, 2023

nice to finally see a video of Van Horn Street

in the larger world, the anti-semitism is probably largely being driven by people who care less about the plight of the Palestinian people and care more about being anti-semitic, and seeing an opportunity for an opening to be a bit more free with their bigotry.

― omar little, Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:29 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is upsetting me a lot right now. I know it sounds naïve but I was genuinely surprised at how fast people seized the opportunity to be flat out anti-Semitic. I grew up spending 1/2 the year in a mostly Jewish community in NY where I as a gentile was often the odd one out. 3 of my 5 lifelong close friends are Jewish. I said to one of them yesterday that I think I grew up in this little bubble were I didn't realize how much anti-semitism there still was out there and he was like yeah no shit you're from NY. Anyway - there are a million upsetting things (upsetting isn't anywhere near strong enough) happening right now but I have been thinking a lot about exactly this, OL. :/

it's not good. i have a friend who was indulging in some "deep thoughts" about judaism around the time kanye was on one about jewish people, and i had an instagram convo w/him re: a couple of his posts. i don't know that i reached him, but i tried. another friend (no longer a friend) started to get very alt-right and was an associate of ow3n b3njamin for awhile, a podcast comedian type guy who started to get into some anti-semitic and racist stuff a few years ago. that particular friend is long gone. he was at my wedding. he probably helped hold me up high in my chair during the hora. he just wound up being a particularly "bad actor" in life. and a pernicious influence on others.

i live in a bubble in Los Angeles obv, but shit does happen here. threats against synagogues, anti-semitic graffiti on a famous local deli last night, etc...

the Poetry Foundation shelved a 3500-word review of a poetry book that discusses the book's criticisms of Israel...the poet author of the book is, of course, Jewish, and so is the reviewer.

The donor pocketbook is where artistic freedom hits a wall

This is where stuff like "It would be insensitive to publish this book about Soviet dissidents at this time" leads to.

― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes)

yeah that is obviously ridiculous

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive)

Reflexive censorship of art always seems to crop up when wars begin and wartime propaganda cranks up the red hot rhetoric. Even as recently as the invasion of Ukraine there were ridiculous people calling for cancellation of symphonies by Russian composers as a sign of solidarity with Ukrainians.

O rly

If a HAMAS sympathizer or a HAMAS-adjacent amateur lone wolf carries out a gun attack in the USA killing more than 10 people in the name is Palestine … this poll will flip like a flapjack. https://t.co/NkWdyaliV7

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) November 2, 2023

and if my granny had wheels, she'd be a bicycle. I like the specificity of ten or more people, it shows a vigorous imagination.

Reflexive censorship of art always seems to crop up when wars begin and wartime propaganda cranks up the red hot rhetoric. Even as recently as the invasion of Ukraine there were ridiculous people calling for cancellation of symphonies by Russian composers as a sign of solidarity with Ukrainians.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, November 2, 2023 1:41 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
My kid’s teacher canceled their Russia unit. Like I really don’t think it matters to Ukrainian lives whether our kids are learning about faberge eggs and Baryshnikov

re: that poll.. I'm not really sure that Israel needs much military support anyway... they're a major arms manufacturer/exporter, inventors of the Uzi submachine gun. And they seemed to have no issues selling arms to South Africa's white minority government

and yet the House just approved 14.5 billion in aide to Israel for some reason

$4 billion for the Iron Dome, which kind of seems like locking the gate after the dog gets out.

Wake Forest professor resigns after backlash due to tweet

https://journalnow.com/news/local/wake-professor-resigns-following-backlash-of-social-media-post-on-israeli-hamas-war/article_4e1022a4-78ea-11ee-a828-ffa8e334019a.html

(She’s a really good poet, fwiw!)

14.5 billion in aide to Israel for some reason

er, mm, by long tradition all those billions can only be spent on armaments produced by US-based death merchants military-industrial complex manufacturers.

And lots of defence contracting

Protests are being planned for Armistice Day. Looks like the match will be lit on the tiniest pretence

"They died for your freedom, but don't you dare think about exercising it." https://t.co/xyCICKV35j

— James B (@piercepenniless) November 3, 2023

Clare Hymer
@ClareHymer
HAPPENING NOW: Another peaceful sit-in calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, this time at Kings Cross Station.

the only additional freedoms that came because of GB participation in the world wars was the bankrupting and partial destruction of an evil global empire and the resultant decline arguably sped up the process of decolonisation that followed. "Protect our freedoms" my fucking arsehole, it was a warfare state that forced conscripts onto the battlefield, which is the absolute opposite of freedom.

David Adler
@davidrkadler
New bill in the French 🇫🇷 Senate : 'An insult committed against the State of Israel is punishable by two years of imprisonment and a fine of 75,000 euros.'

I don't even want to paste in what Germany are doing, just utterly disgusting

Belgian transport workers saved the lives of thousands of Jews in the 1940s by unlocking the doors of trains headed for the extermination camps. Now, they're refusing to load weapons onto ships headed to Israel. This is a meaningful & timeless solidarity with humanity. pic.twitter.com/kvcUMcnJd7

— Amro Ali (@_amroali) November 3, 2023

Wokeness run amok

Scoop: Blinken told Israeli war cabinet humanitarian pause will buy Israel time for Gaza operation. My story on @axioshttps://t.co/PkpZ8vrk5H

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) November 4, 2023

Sorry, I blocked the Nazi social media website but it seems as if somebody is accusing Biden in being “complicit” in Palestinian massacre? What a concept

Notice how @AP writes “Iranian-backed Houthis” but never “U.S.-backed Israel.”

These language choices aren’t neutral. They shape how the audience sees the story. pic.twitter.com/ocPaZQyKek

— Laila Al-Arian (@LailaAlarian) August 30, 2025

leaked presentation about Trump's major building projects in Gaza after his Nobel peace prize

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/08/31/trump-gaza-plan-riviera-relocation/

Hamas to crawl out and murder the tourists.

I guess I missed that AI video that DJT shared back in February— easily one of the most unhinged things I’ve ever seen or had to consider

It’s about time the Mediterranean had a Riviera

I’m making jokes because otherwise I will go insane because this is the most obviously planned war crime in post ww2 history and we can’t stop it

Again, scholars and lawyers are worse than useless. Two years and your poxy genocide tests have now been passed?

JUST IN: The world’s leading association of genocide scholars has passed a resolution stating that the legal criteria have been met to establish that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. pic.twitter.com/CLNG7Rgopb

— DW News (@dwnews) September 1, 2025

It was all of us who were too quick

https://maritime-executive.com/article/italian-dockers-to-halt-israel-bound-cargo-if-gaza-aid-is-blocked

One of Italy's longshore union has threatened to shut down all outbound cargo shipments to Israel if the latest planned protest flotilla to Gaza gets stopped by the Israeli Navy's decades-long blockade. All seven previous seaborne aid attempts have been interdicted, most by Israeli commandos in international waters.

https://www.leftvoice.org/if-they-block-the-flotilla-we-block-everything-italian-dockworkers-prepared-to-strike-for-the-global-samud-flotilla/

Imagine listening in and pulling that face.

Hugh Bonneville took advantage of a live TV interview at the premiere for #DowntonAbbeyTheGrandFinale to make a statement about Gaza. Watch the face of ITV News reporter Helen Keenan drop as he *goes there*. pic.twitter.com/biSD7yhMAP

— Lorna_TVeditor (@Lorna_TVeditor) September 3, 2025

Unhinged comment by a bot or a “news analysis” in the NYT obscuring the reality that Israel has turned Gaza into a slaughterhouse pic.twitter.com/qcaZTMmN6P

— Laila Al-Arian (@LailaAlarian) September 5, 2025

This quote from one of the 300 people arrested today in London for expressing public support for Palestine Action has kind of taken the bottom out of me

In the 1970s, she protested against the Vietnam war outside the US embassy in London. “I thought the world would be a better place by now but it isn’t,” she said. “It’s a much worse place.”

As long as hunanity exists some will try to ake the world a better place.

https://twitter.com/palactionde/status/1964964137857102203?s=19

That's a tweet from Palestine action in Germany attacking a weapons factory

Seriously dude? fuck
more of the false equivalency thing.. kinda expected better from him, not sure why

Jerry Seinfeld denounced the Free Palestine movement as antisemitic and likened its rhetoric to that of the Ku Klux Klan during a surprise appearance at Duke University.

“Free Palestine is, to me, just … you’re free to say you don’t like Jews. Just say you don’t like Jews,” the 71-year-old comedian said on stage, according to the Duke University Chronicle.

“By saying ‘Free Palestine’, you’re not admitting what you really think,” he continued. “So it’s actually – compared to the Ku Klux Klan, I’m actually thinking the Klan is actually a little better here, because they can come right out and say, ‘We don’t like Blacks, we don’t like Jews.’ OK, that’s honest.”

He’s been mad at college kids for at least a decade now

following that logic through, what does “Israel has a right to defend itself” really mean jerry?

Father Ted cancelled. Seinfeld cancelled.

Thank fuck we still Larry Sanders and Simpsons.

🚨 | Ireland will NOT compete in the #Eurovision Song Contest if Israel remain.

“It is RTÉ’s position that Ireland will not take part in the 2026 Eurovision Song Contest if the participation of Israel goes ahead, and the final decision regarding Ireland’s participation will be… pic.twitter.com/8STxvTR9Nn

— sᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴛᴠ (@superTV247) September 11, 2025

lol.. why did I just see a video of Netanyahu vehemently denying that it was Israel that assassinated Kirk

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/sep/15/cycling-teams-could-boycott-races-israel-premier-tech-vuelta-a-espana

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/22/disruption-across-italy-as-tens-of-thousands-protest-against-gaza-war

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/sep/15/cycling-teams-could-boycott-races-israel-premier-tech-vuelta-a-espana🕸

Notice the turn of phrase at the end of this article, wherein those protesting Israel’s participation in an event are considered “terrorists.”

Not particularly illuminating, but kind of funny to see a Zionist host so unable to defend Israel that they walk off of their own show

Nut job @JillianMichaels claimed I'm not capable of civil discourse. Today she was challenged, respectfully on her stance with Israel. She had a hissy fit and walked off set. She is the one not capable of having any intellectual conversation. I've done over 100 other shows, and… pic.twitter.com/ZmnJOoK2dW

— Pushing The Limits @ptlradioshow.bsky.social (@PTLRadioShow) September 22, 2025

BREAKING: Microsoft cuts Israeli military off cloud services after reports of mass surveillance of Palestinians

🔴 LIVE updates: https://t.co/sKTsoH793a pic.twitter.com/e3XSvurTjE

— Al Jazeera Breaking News (@AJENews) September 25, 2025

Netanyahu is broadcasting his UN speech into Gaza (from the Telegraph, sorry):

The Israel Defense Forces has been ordered to position loudspeakers inside the besieged territory despite opposition from within its ranks, according to reports.

“It’s a crazy idea. No one understands what the military benefit is here,” one senior officer told Haaretz, the Israeli news site.

The speakers will be positioned on the back of military trucks near Gaza’s border fence, the report said, adding that the goal of the broadcast is psychological warfare.

The overwhelming majority of UN delegates walked out on Netanyahu, FTR. And these are people who stuck around for Trump.

Then, [Netanyahu] brings out more placards, and does a "pop quiz".

The first reads: "Who shouts death to America?", with the answers reading: "a) Iran, b) Hamas, c) Hezbollah, d) Houthis, e) all the above".

Shouts could be heard in the hall, and Netanyahu ticks the option for "e) all of the above".

Worst substitute teacher ever

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/30/tony-blair-jared-kushner-gaza-plan-catastrophe

yeesh: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/oracle-tiktok-israel-2674151514/

Oracle execs: Love Israel or maybe this isn't the job for you

Employees who disagreed were reportedly referred to company mental health services

Oracle putting their boy Tony Blair in too. Perhaps the awesome power of AI will have a role to play here? Just a thought.

I do keep hearing about a "technocratic" government that will run Gaza

but as I didn't mention and the URL alludes to, Oracle is about to own TikTok in the US, so I assume pro-Palestinian speech will vanish there

This was released today - https://citiesandmemory.bandcamp.com/album/echoes-for-palestine-volume-1

Echoes for Palestine is a labor of love and solidarity, a charitable project brought to life by Rafael Diogo (Deep Dive Sound) in collaboration with Cities and Memory, with every penny of proceeds flowing directly to Hope and Play, supporting the children of Gaza.

From over a hundred submissions of original, sound-based compositions from artists around the world, we have woven together 25 tracks for Volume 1.

This collection unfolds like a journey through diverse sonic landscapes — experimental electronic pulses, drifting ambient textures, intricate electroacoustic designs, intimate spoken word, and evocative narrative soundscapes. Each piece hums with the spirit of resistance, whispers resilience, carries memory, and offers hope, preserving the cultural heartbeat of Palestine.

This compilation is more than music. It is testimony, imagination, and a bridge across distance and time — a tribute to Palestinian lives, voices, and dreams, and a celebration of the profound, transformative power of sound. By listening to and purchasing the album, you help bring hope, joy, and support to the children of Gaza.

(full disclosure than i am behind one of those 100+ submissions, but it's not on this first volume)

Great statement on the how people backing armed resistance are being shunned. She makes points many struggle with.

https://ko-fi.com/post/Stateless-but-Unbanned-Why-the-British-Charity-Co-Q5Q81MLJ4O

Curious to know how the usual ghouls will try to justify/deny the inevitable next phase of genocide now the hostages have all been returned.

I imagine Hamas not disarming quickly enough will be the pretext.

sickened by the breathless way Israelis are considered “hostages” but Palestinians are considered “prisoners” in the US media.

Yashar Ali 🐘
1. A watershed moment.

The President of the Heritage Foundation and Heritage Action, Kevin Roberts , has announced that the organization is standing by Tucker Carlson in the aftermath of Tucker’s interview with neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes.

This isn’t Kevin bending his knee to Trump…this is something new

https://bsky.app/profile/yasharali.bsky.social/post/3m4gu5t4dlk2d

Am I surprised the Heritage Foundation is coming out as pro-white nationalist and pivoting against Israel while attacking "globalists"? lol no but still, worth noting

Turns out that, SURPRISE! Biden and everyone in his admin knew there was ethnic cleansing going on and that aid was being blocked, but they didn’t do shit. They all deserve to be convicted of war crimes!!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-intelligence-israeli-war-crimes-gaza_n_690e361ce4b0dd4ea75b6445

absolutely outrageous

USA has a history with looking the other way during a genocide

It’s way more than “looking the other way”, more like actively assisting in this case. Biden was still happily shoveling them arms and money.

They have a long history of doing that as well, but neither of these facts make this any less horrific.

Exactly. I mean honestly, while I am happy about the results of this past week’s elections, I also have a deep desire to watch the US empire fall, or at least get a comeuppance for the crimes our government has committed over the years, which are frankly too numerous and horrific to comprehend in any sort of real way.